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Old December 17th, 2012 (08:59 AM).
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IMO, I'd rather have Kingdra do the Rain Dance set-up. And I do see a lot of problems with it:
-Flash Cannon doesn't provide noteworthy coverage; Kingdra's Water and Dragon STABs have good enough coverage already.
-Status moves other than Trick, Spore or the like + Choice items = no-no. This makes Kingdra a sitting duck. Go with this set instead:
-Rain Dance
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon Pulse/Ice Beam/Surf
Nature: Modest
EVs: 40 HP/252 SAtk/216 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Damp Rock
Ability: Swift Swim

The lack of STAB really, really really hurts on Suicune:
-Calm Mind
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power (Electric/Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

or
-Calm Mind
-Scald/Surf
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Surf/Scald
-Ice Beam/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP/172 SAtk/84 Spe
Item: Leftovers

But then again, Keldeo is a better option over Suicune thanks to its better Speed and offensive presence:
-Surf
-Hydro Pump
-Secret Sword
-Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Calm Mind
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Secret Sword
-Hidden Power (Ghost/Ice)/Substitute
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

or
-Hydro Pump
-Secret Sword
-Hidden Power (Ghost/Electric)
-Icy Wind/Surf
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs

Gyarados' current set is better off using a max Attack/max Speed spread; the bulky spread is better off for a Dragon Dance Gyarados that uses Taunt.

Cute Charm seems tempting, but infatuation is easy to switch out of. That, and the status itself is unreliable. Marvel Scale is still Milotic's preferred ability. Milotic's current set isn't meant to attack, but to provide support. The preferred spread is 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef.

Since Rain Dance (without Politoed) doesn't last long, you're going to need a backup Rain Dance user; Vaporeon can do that while still providing Wish. While Acid Armor + Baton Pass is tempting, it's better off doing that in dedicated Baton Pass teams, and this team isn't one:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Toxic/Roar/Rain Dance
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

or
-Rest
-Scald
-Wish/Roar/Rain Dance
-Toxic/Ice Beam/Rain Dance
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Hydration

Lapras, while interesting, doesn't make much of an impact in OU. Cloyster can make a more threatening offensive presence with Shell Smash:
-Shell Smash
-Icicle Spear
-Rock Blast
-Hydro Pump/Razor Shell
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: White Herb/Focus Sash/Lum Berry/Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link
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