North Korea to enter state of war with South Korea and United States
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April 9th, 2013 (10:24 AM).
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I don't live in America- I live in Spain, the European country with the forgotten fascist dictator (Paco Franco) who was allowed to roam free between 1939 and 1975 with the approval of the powers that be, including the US, because he was an ardent anti-communist and once his friends Adolf and Benito were dead he wasn't so dangerous anymore- the new bad guys were the commies!
During the 60's, our country enjoyed a period of fast growth -our GDP increased threefold in 10 years- and there were all sorts of security. At the cost of what? Well, "relative freedoms", as in, no voting or anything similar (ahaha), no writing anything against the official Party line, no demonstrations, no leaving the country without permission, and the constant threat of disappearing in a police station if you ever did something "suspicious", like handing pamphlets asking for the ability to elect our leaders.
Our process to obtain democracy started in the early 70's, with Franco agonyzing at a hospital, and we didn't finally get rid of the leading party until 1982. So I know what you are talking about.
We know that, after the war, a part of the peninsula was given a somewhat western-ish-esque system that developed, after a long and difficult process, into what SK can enjoy today. Meanwhile, the part that fell in the hands of Kim-il Sung became a crazy Stalinist state (and by "slavery", I mean negation of most individual rights- which is what they have today. Everyone must wear an Il Sung pin to be allowed to go outside?
). You say that, without the intervention of the US, the country would have evolved, not being so dependent on the military. The problem is, Russia, their main allies through and through, were the main responsibles for encouraging such a behaviour. And, unlike Communist Germany, they had China to take their place instead and keep encouraging and subsidizing them. I personally think that, without that war, all of Korea would have fallen the same steps. In any dictatorship, the military is going to take on a leading role as they "protect" the system from the citizens- maybe not to this levels of crazy, but would have been relevant after all. That's why I think that the US original involvement was positive- at least for a part of the population, which managed to develop into a democratic country.
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- Mariano Rajoy, presidente del Gobierno de España.
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