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Old June 28th, 2013 (10:25 PM).
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I understand that, what I'm saying is that you are calling the principals mathematics describes the same thing as mathematics which is untrue.

Gravity, electromagnetisms, values, trends, patterns - these things have been around as long as the universe. But the mathematics we use to explain these things is a language we have created no different to English or Chinese. Mathematics, as you so put it, is "an obvious invention and used only by humans".
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