6th Gen Evolution/Pre-evolution Speculation

Guys.

They won't evolve past pokemon with existing methods.

So, like trade evolving Emolga/Pachirisu wont happen, evovling anything with DragonScale, ShinyStone etc, wont happen. And of course everything else like happiness, lv.up etc.

Just because they haven't done so in the past does not mean they won't in the future - the release of Black and White 2 proved that Game Freak are willing to shake up the formula, who knows what they'll do if they introduce new evolutions of old Pokemon.

Metal coat pinser evolution, that is all.

Yuoaman said:

Just because they haven't done so in the past does not mean they won't in the future - the release of Black and White 2 proved that Game Freak are willing to shake up the formula, who knows what they'll do if they introduce new evolutions of old Pokemon.

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Yeah but they won't introduce them with already existent evolution methods because it would clash with previous games. Like, "oh Kecleon evolves with a shiny stone, why didn't it do that in DPPt?".
You know? :3

Yuoaman said:

Just because they haven't done so in the past does not mean they won't in the future - the release of Black and White 2 proved that Game Freak are willing to shake up the formula, who knows what they'll do if they introduce new evolutions of old Pokemon.

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Ive seen that recently the "gamefreak started doing what they want" argument has become quite popular..

I'm not sure why though... in my view they haven't broken anything in that sense or any basic mechanic... just because they finally did the logical thing and made sequels instead of a version for a generation that needed more than that due to it being shorter by fate through hardware?

Aerilyn said:

It's possible that they did have an evolution for Pinsir at the time, but it likely never made it passed the development stage to make it into the games. GameFreak could have had many pre-evolution and evolution ideas for Pokémon passed that they have not yet used or simply decided not to. For example, many of the Pokémon we have now weren't just designed the way they come. They've gone through stages and trials to get to where they are before GameFreak finalizes on using them.

Jinx never got an evolution like Electabuzz and Magmar in DPPt, and she's considered apart of that pairing as well. That being said, I do hope Jinx and Pinsir one day get the evolutions they deserve.

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well I personally saw certain ones in that as partners. scyther and pinser were both rare bugs in the safari zone. electabuzz and magmar were not only in a specific anime episode where they dueled, but they also have the same odd sort of design which seem to go along well both have their respective type on their belly, they have two toes, things coming off their heads, tails, etc. jynx never quite fit in my opinion you only got it by a trade which made me think it matched more with mr.mime.

Also I still think Scyther deserves a better evolution. he lost his best aspects when he evolved the scythes. how can going from scythes to scizzors be an upgrade?

Pre-evolutions:
Kanghaskan, Lapras, Skarmory, Miltank and Heatmor.

Evolutions:
Qwilfish, Shuckle, Heracross, Corsola, Sableye, Mawile, Torkoal, Spinda, Zangoose, Seviper, Solrock, Lunatone, Tropius, Absol, Pachirisu, Carnivine, Rotom, Emolga, Cryogonal and Durant.

Male Evolution for Combee
Bug/Ghost Grim Reaper alternate evolution of Scyther.
Eeveelutions of all types that haven't been covered yet.
Alomomola to be linked to Luvdisc somehow (Yes, I said it)

My Pokemon Evo/Pre-evo Wish List:

-Flying/Ghost-type Eeveeltuions (Obtained by trading Eevee using a new held item, or by some alternative method)

-Flying/Fight-type Farfetch'd evolution (Obtained by having Farfetch'd learn a certain attack)

-Flying/Ice-type Delibird evolution (Obtained by having Delibird learn a certain attack, implying it would learn something other than Present)

-Ice/Psychic-type Jynx evolution (Obtained by trading with a new held item)

-Normal-type Kangahskan pre-evolution (Obtained by breeding Kangahskan while holding a new incense)

-Normal/Fighting OR Normal/Dragon-type Kangahskan male form (Evolves from Kangahskan pre-evolution if male)

-Bug/Fighting OR Bug/Steel-type Pinsir evolution (Obtained by trading Pinsir with a new held item)

-Psychic OR Psychic/Dark Mr.Mime evolution (Obtained by exposing Mr.Mime to a specific environment)

-Normal/Ground OR Normal/Dragon Dunsparce evolution (Obtained by exposing Dunsparce to a specific environment)

That's basically it.

MiTjA said:

Guys.

They won't evolve past pokemon with existing methods.

So, like trade evolving Emolga/Pachirisu wont happen, evovling anything with DragonScale, ShinyStone etc, wont happen. And of course everything else like happiness, lv.up etc.

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Well, of course not. But they could integrate those into new evolution methods - for example, introduce an item that, when held, allows old Pokemon to evolve with stones they couldn't normally.

Or go back to the level up/held item evolutions, but add in a location condition like for Glaceon / Leafeon.

There's plenty of ways to combine old evolution routines into new ones. As long as you introduce new items, moves, or places that they're dependent on, no one can say anything.

Flydro said:

I don't think the male Combee needs an evolution. From what I've seen on animal planet and these nature documentaries it shows that bugs that live in a big colony are usually ruled by one lone female, the queen. In turn she is served and protected by the drones and workers who are usually the male counterpart. In a bee's case, it could explain why the gender ratio of male to female is so high and why the male Combee don't evolve. Beesides, we already have Beedrill lol

Since I'm on the subject of bug type evos I think Surskit should get a branch evo. I was disappointed to see it go from a water bug to yet another Bug/Flying type, and Masquerain is just terrible. Surskit could evolve into one of those real life water bugs that live and hunt aquatically. It could then retain it's Water/Bug typing while becoming something faster and stronger. The evo method of Surskit's new form could be something new like level up while knowing Rain Dance or something.

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To add to what I said in that post, I also thought of a couple more evolutions that I think would work well and make for cool designs:

Barboach (branch evo) - I think a cool evolution for Barboach would be a flying fish as an alternate form. Since Whiscash is a Water/Ground fish, I think it would be interesting to see it branch off into a Water/Flying fish. For its appearance it could get larger, wing like fins and a slimmer body to make it look more aerodynamic. It would still retain the long whiskers like Barboach and Whiscash do as their signature feature. Maybe the evolution method could be level up while knowing Bounce, after which it evolves into the flying form it could learn Flying type moves instead of Ground.

Liepard - I think Liepard could use an evolution. I think it's concept and physical appearance could be taken a step further, as well as benefit from an increase in overall strength. Could possibly see it developing into a more beastly looking leopard with a slightly more muscular build, longer whiskers and possibly sabre teeth or at least noticeable fangs and claws. Thicker and bolder spots too, but Retain the pure Dark type though. Possible evolution method could be level up at night while knowing Hone Claws.

Banette - another pokemon I think could use an evo. It could develop into a stronger and more sinister marionette/voodoo doll type of pokemon, with its arms cross folded like it's wearing a straight jacket and having two pins stuck in it's back. Retain the zipper mouth for that tortured look as well. Aside from being stronger and faster it could become a Ghost/Dark type as well. Evo method could be level up while knowing the move Curse.

That banette's evo u told about is the pokemon that smogon created? VOODOM(Dark/Fight)?

skarmory (Nincada type evolution one super fast other having high defence abilitys levitate/ wonder guard, wonder guard can learn magnet pull) , delibird, dunsparse (dragon flying OR NORMAL FLYING) and a forgotten one deserving an evo more than others Farfetch'd

masaru3 said:

The way I picture Aereon (lol, flying eevee) is it having ears that are wings as well. If this eeveelution is made I hope they don't "birdify" it too much.

I'd love to see a poison type eevee. Or Ghost. Or ground.

I believe we'll be getting a new evolution, I mean, it's an evolution on pokémon games, we need an eeveelution as well. (Or two or three =D)
As for which type I think it will be... Hmmm... Steel or Flying. Or they could make a Normal eeveelution, which would certainly surprise us :P

Look at this image inside the spoiler

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By the color of that symbol, I'll say it might be flying or steel.

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deffinatly dragon that colour is the dragon type symbol And their are stars

[QUOTE=while they're at it give Sheinja an evolution...one in which it get's 500 hp which would blow everyone away!
yeah eather give it a stat boost or evolve the thing
many pokemon that when gen IV came hade their movesets destroyed like skarmory :( its been ripped of stat. wise to last time i checked 370 km/h is fast!

piefara said:

deffinatly dragon that colour is the dragon type symbol And their are stars

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That picture is saying nonsense. The last symbol is Espeon, the ribbon is not a symbol but just a stylistic detail and brightly pink to begin with.

Maybe, a Pokemon will be introduced connecting Luvdisc and Alomomola. Luvdisc evolves into this evolution. The evolution evolves into Alomomola

PEDRO12 said:

Yeah but they won't introduce them with already existent evolution methods because it would clash with previous games. Like, "oh Kecleon evolves with a shiny stone, why didn't it do that in DPPt?".
You know? :3

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Piloswine learning Ancient Power and Lickitung learning Rollout both say hello to you good sir.

While the "evolution by attack" was new, both learned those attacks in Gen 2 and neither evolved. It not an out of the question thing. Its just a "well we haven't seen it yet so I doubt it" thing which holds little to no water at all. There were many things that we expected because the past was like that, that was blown up and thrown in our faces.

XanderO said:

Piloswine learning Ancient Power and Lickitung learning Rollout both say hello to you good sir.

While the "evolution by attack" was new, both learned those attacks in Gen 2 and neither evolved. It not an out of the question thing. Its just a "well we haven't seen it yet so I doubt it" thing which holds little to no water at all. There were many things that we expected because the past was like that, that was blown up and thrown in our faces.

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Damn, never noticed those ._.
Guess it is possible, but from my perspective, Vegas money's on new evolution methods for new evolutions (:

EDIT: Oh and say hi back for me ;D

Want to see an Absol evolution, Skarmory evolution, Tropius (pre)evolution, and more eeveelutions for sure. maybe an evolution for heracross and pinsir too?

Hmm, as long as most of the evolutions are good, I'm fine. So many in Gen IV were really bad, e.g Rhyperior, Magmortar, Electivire, Lickilicky, Tangrowth, Glaceon, Leafeon, Ambipom ect. That's just my opinion, but for every good new evo in Gen IV, there was 4 bad ones. As long as they are acceptable, I'm cool with it.

Crystal Noel said:

Maybe, a Pokemon will be introduced connecting Luvdisc and Alomomola. Luvdisc evolves into this evolution. The evolution evolves into Alomomola

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No, they aren't even the same egg-group and that alone is enough to throw the whole idea out the window.
Just because they're flatter-shaped fish doesn't mean they are related.

XanderO said:

Piloswine learning Ancient Power and Lickitung learning Rollout both say hello to you good sir.

While the "evolution by attack" was new, both learned those attacks in Gen 2 and neither evolved. It not an out of the question thing. Its just a "well we haven't seen it yet so I doubt it" thing which holds little to no water at all. There were many things that we expected because the past was like that, that was blown up and thrown in our faces.

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Piloswine/Lickitung was probably just gamefreak being sloppy. Or were less careful due to the nature of "crappy move evolution", involving the crap move no one ever actually did teach those pokemon in history lol, because if you didn't know the moves were the catalyst, you would hit B when they learn them anyway.
I have no idea why Rollout of all moves, but at least the AncientPower on Piloswine has obviously to do with some primal theme (especially when it evolves into a mammoth)


But seriously
why would they still do this otherwise?
Every single new pre-evolution after gen2 (which introduced breeding) requires an Incense instead of just plain breeding.
Every new evolution that evolves with an evolutionary stone, uses a NEW evolutionary stone.
Every new evolution that requires trading, also requires a NEW trade evolution item
Every new evolution with level up, requires either a NEW item, has to be trained at a NEW location, or a move that it didn't learn before,
EXCEPT FOR LICKITUNG AND PILOSWINE... who could be taught their required moves in indirect ways, chain bred via a Kecleon or taught it via TM04 in GSC, respectively.

Because of those 2 oblique anomalies, you can't simply dismiss the fact that Gamefreak will likely insist on continuing this logic to ensure more consistency than inconsistency.

MiTjA said:

No, they aren't even the same egg-group and that alone is enough to throw the whole idea out the window.
Just because they're flatter-shaped fish doesn't mean they are related.

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That plus because Pokemon look similar in general doesn't mean they should evolve into the other, it just means they're the next generation representations. Same goes for Pidove and Pidgey for example, they look somewhat similar but if they evolved into each other it would be -really- weird. Still not a fan of the evolutions related to them. :(