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The Ultimate OVP: Controversial Topics

Shining Raichu

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It really doesn't feel this long ago, but two and a half years ago my friend Gymnotide posted this thread. I've been meaning to re-post it for months but just never quite got there, so tonight is as good a night as any. For those of you who are too young to know this, OVP stands for Other Voting Polls, the old name of this section. Here is a link to the original thread for those of you who are old enough to have posted here last time. You can see how your answers have changed!

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{ITT}: Let's play a game​

Arrange the following parameters into three groups: support, oppose, and impartial. Don't write anything for each thing, but provide some quick notes at the end if necessary. A copy & paste will be located below.

I am being as restrictive as possible by giving you only three categories to fill. There are no "sometimes," "yes, but...," or "only if." Just answer.

To keep this OVP-material, please minimize the discussion; discussion belongs in OC. Don't go about writing explanatory paragraphs. After all, this is a poll--to be blunt, I'm interested in collecting data, not your opinions.

Some notes, though--

____________________​

  • Religion; this is not about whether or not you are religious. Answer whether you believe religion is a positive institution, or you dislike it (you are leaning toward antireligion [read more on Wikipedia]). If you do not care about it or you are secular (keep religion and other things separate), then answer impartial.
  • Spirituality (irreligious only); a spirituality is a belief in forces that supersede human control, but are also deeply involved in human affairs. In other words, a religion is a spirituality that has evolved into mass-practice, whereas a spirituality alone is just the practice. You can be religious and irreligiously spiritual at the same time, such as if you perform certain personal, spiritual rituals outside of your normal faith.
  • Intelligent Design; do you support the idea that a sentient being (not necessarily a god) created the universe as we know it?
____________________​

  • Homosexuality; do you believe that homosexuality is morally / biologically / etc. correct?
  • Gay Rights; do you believe that homosexual individuals deserve equal rights (e.g. the right to marry and adopt, job equality, etc.)?
  • Polygamy
  • Censorship
  • Pornography; is pornography a positive institution (economically morally, etc.)?
  • Prostitution; is prostitution a positive institution (economically, morally, etc.)? Should prostitution be legalized?
  • Gambling; how do you feel about people who gamble? Should gambling institutions exist?
____________________​

  • Standardized Testing; is standardized testing necessary? Is there too much emphasis on standardized testing?
  • Institutionalized Education; is education a positive institution? I.e., are schools necessary when there is home-schooling? Does the school-to-college system work? Or is it too technical / restrictive?

  • Abortion
  • Euthanasia
  • The Death Penalty
  • Gun Control
  • Corporal Punishment
____________________​

  • Evolutionary Theory; "Evolutionary Theory (ET)" differs from "evolution." It is strictly the concept that involves selection processes, methods of evolution, etc. It's answers how evolution occurs, not whether or not it does.
  • Cloning
  • Genetic Engineering
  • Stem Cell Research
  • Animal Experimentation
  • Animal Rights; how do you react to hunting, fur trade, factory farming, overfishing, animal property, etc.?
  • Vegetarianism / Veganism; do you believe that becoming a vegetarian or vegan is beneficial to an individual (not necessarily yourself; whether morally, health-related, or otherwise)?
____________________​

  • Marijuana Use
  • Marijuana Legalization
  • Tobacco Use
  • Tobacco Illegalization
  • Alcohol
  • Steroids (non-medical); that is, recreational, as enhancement for sports, appearance, in the pornography scene, etc.

Copy and paste this list and then sort the items into the three sections below

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Animal Rights
Censorship
Cloning
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Intelligent Design
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Stem Cell Research
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Illegalization
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism

[h2]I support[/h2]

[h2]I oppose[/h2]

[h2]I am impartial to[/h2]

 
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I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Rights
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Gambling
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Spirituality
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism

just some notes

A lot of these are here for the same reason: I support free will over one's own body. Alcohol consumption, euthanasia, homosexuality, marijuana use, polygamy, pornography, prostitution, steroids, and tobacco use all fall under this principle. Naturally, I do think that there is a certain point where some of these things become incredibly dangerous and life threatening, and at that point I start to differ in my thought process. But a little of these things every now and then is okay in my book.

Animal rights I support, but only down to the most fundamental belief. We, as living creatures, don't have any right to be in command of any life but our own. I believe domestication, in some ways, is like slavery.

In regards to homosexuality, I just want to note that I don't think it's biologically natural. Apart from and despite that, I do support it and I don't think that that should be a reason people should be against it.

Tobacco use is something I support, because of what I said earlier, but I also believe that it has absolutely no positive effects for the body and is foolish and life threatening, no matter how small the amount consumed is.

Vegetarianism / Veganism is something I greatly respect in people. I believe that we as a society should grow to a point where we no longer eat meat or consume byproducts of animals and we can live independently of each other, but I am someone who consumes it. If I were to meet two people and they were identical in every possible way, with the exception of one of them being a meat-eater and the other a vegan, I would greatly favor the vegan.


I oppose

Abortion
Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Intelligent Design
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Illegalization

just some notes

Abortion is on both lists of things that I support and things that I suppose, because I do believe that after the fetus is developed enough, it would be homicide. I'm still ignorant on when life begins, but I feel that after life does begin and the fetus actually begins to feel, then that's the point where abortion is something I don't support.

I don't support animal experimentation because I feel that we are developed enough to consider other options, but I understand why it's beneficial, and I would rather it be animal experimentation than human experimentation. Still, I don't believe it's at all the moral thing to do.

If you know anything about me, you know that I'm against censorship. Just the act of censoring a curse word angers me.

I am against standardized testing, simply because I believe there is other ways of measuring ones' intelligence than having them recall facts taught to them earlier on. I'm at a point in my life where I question intelligence as a whole because, at least in school settings, its often measured in your ability to regurgitate things said to you rather than actually being well educated in a particular matter.

Because I support free will over one's own body, I am opposed to tobacco illegalization.


I am impartial to

Cloning
Corporal Punishment
Evolution theory
Stem Cell Research

just some notes

These are just things that I don't care about one way or the other.
 
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Beyond Infinity

Couldn't Outfox a Donkey
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This is where I reveal my radical pro-arming squirrels and anti-anyone with an even number of legs views.

I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Rights
Censorship
Cloning
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Religion
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Illegalization
Gun Control

I oppose

Corporal Punishment
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Animal Experimentation
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Intelligent Design
Pornography
Prostitution
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Vegetarianism / Veganism


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I realise I am impartial to quite a lot. It doesn't mean I don't have an opinion, but that my opinion goes both ways. For example, I fully support gay rights, no two ways about it, whereas for something like animal testing, I support it for serious medical drugs but not for cosmetics. I use pornography and have no problem with it, yet it's not what I consider moral.

I'm not on the fence for most issues, I'm in both gardens.
 
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I support

Animal Rights
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Intelligent Design
Prostitution
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Illegalization

I oppose

Abortion
Censorship
Corporal Punishment
Cloning
The Death Penalty
Polygamy
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Euthanasia
Gambling
Genetic Engineering
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism
Pornography
Religion
Steroids (non-medical)

Mostly did this as an exercise to see how I feel about the issues, surprised myself a little! And like above, using 'impartial' as "both agree and disagree".
 

Nihilego

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I love these threads. 8)

I support

Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Intelligent Design
Religion
Standardized Testing
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Use

I oppose

Abortion
Censorship
Cloning
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Marijuana Legalization
Polygamy
Pornography
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Animal Rights
Marijuana Use
Prostitution
Spirituality
Steroids
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 
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A lot of these were difficult for me to decide on because of political views and religious beliefs, but here goes..

I support

Animal Rights
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Gambling
Gay Rights
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Stem Cell Research

I oppose

Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Cloning
Intelligent Design
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Abortion
Alcohol
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 

Crunch Punch

fire > ice
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11
Years

I support

Animal Rights
Gay Rights
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Marijuana Legalization
Pornography
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Religion
Stem Cell Research

I oppose

Abortion
Censorship
Cloning
Corporal Punishment
Genetic Engineering
Institutionalized Education
Polygamy
Prostitution
Steroids (non-medical)

I am impartial to

Alcohol
Marijuana Use
Animal Experimentation
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Tobacco Illegalization
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism
Gambling
Standardized Testing


Not surprisingly the most answers out of the three categories is on the impartial one.
 
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Something I'd thought of remaking myself on occasion, but I didn't have the foresight to note the OP anywhere, only the items to be placed.


I support

Euthanasia (with undergoer's consent only)
Marijuana Legalization
Polygamy

I oppose

Censorship
Gun Control
Institutionalized Education
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Animal Rights
Cloning
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Homosexuality
Intelligent Design
Marijuana Use
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion (opposed to proselytism)
Spirituality
Stem Cell Research
Steroids
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 
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Years

I support

Abortion
Animal Experimentation
Cloning
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Institutionalized Education
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Stem Cell Research

I oppose

Animal Rights
Corporal Punishment
Intelligent Design
Marijuana Use
Religion
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Alcohol
Censorship
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Gambling
Homosexuality
Marijuana Legalization
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Standardized Testing
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Illegalization
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 

Princess Sandshrew

PokéRespect
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14
Years

I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Animal Rights
Cloning
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Homosexuality
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Stem Cell Research
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use

I oppose

Censorship
Gun Control
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Corporal Punishment
Institutionalized Education
Intelligent Design
Standardized Testing
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 
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In the spirit of not qualifying my answers, I went with my immediate gut feeling on these.

I hope we can get some statistics on these after a while to see how things compare.

I support

Abortion
Animal Rights
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Pornography
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Illegalization
Vegetarianism / Veganism

I oppose

Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Intelligent Design
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Cloning
Genetic Engineering
Gambling
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Prostitution
Standardized Testing
 

«Chuckles»

Sharky
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I support

Animal Rights
Cloning
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Genetic Engineering
Spirituality
Intelligent Design
Stem Cell Research
Vegetarianism / Veganism

I oppose

Institutionalized Education
Prostitution
Religion
Standardized Testing
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Illegalization
Tobacco Use
Abortion
Alcohol


I am impartial to

Animal Experimentation
Evolutionary Theory
Gambling
Gay Rights
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Polygamy
Pornography
 
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Controversial?

Bored musician, bad programmer
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I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Rights
Cloning
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalised Education
Intelligent Design
Marijuana Legalisation
Marijuana Use
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Spirituality
Stem Cell Research
Steroids (non-medical)

I oppose

Censorship
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Standardised Testing
Tobacco Illegalisation

I am impartial to

Animal Experimentation
Gambling
Religion
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism/Veganism

wooooooo i'm a hypocrite
 

Shining Raichu

Expect me like you expect Jesus.
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Scarf said:
I hope we can get some statistics on these after a while to see how things compare.

This is actually a great idea, I think I'll go through the thread and collect all the data when the thread is starting to die out :)

OK now for my own answers!

I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Animal Rights
Cloning
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Marijuana Legalization
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Stem Cell Research

I oppose

Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Intelligent Design
Religion
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Corporal Punishment
Gambling
Marijuana Use
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 
4,181
Posts
10
Years

I support

Abortion
Corporal Punishment *depends on severity
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Institutionalized Education
Intelligent Design
Pornography
Prostitution
Standardized Testing

I oppose

Alcohol
Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Corporal Punishment *depends on severity
Polygamy
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Animal Rights
Cloning
Gambling
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Illegalization
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 

Mystify

confused
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10
Years
  • Age 28
  • Seen Jan 10, 2020

I support

Abortion
Animal Rights
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Gay Rights
Homosexuality
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Stem Cell Research
Vegetarianism / Veganism

I oppose

Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Corporal Punishment
Institutionalized Education
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Illegalization

I am impartial to

Alcohol
Cloning
The Death Penalty
Gambling
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Intelligent Design
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use
 

antemortem

rest after tomorrow
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I'm indifferent to quite a lot more than I thought I'd be.

I support...

Alcohol
Animal rights
The Death Penalty
Evolutionary Theory
Gay rights
Homosexuality
Gun control
Prostitution
Stem Cell Research
Tobacco Use
Vegetarianism / Veganism

I do not support...

Abortion
Animal Experimentation
Censorship
Euthanasia
Intelligent Design
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Illegalization
Steroids (non-medical)

I am indifferent to...

Cloning
Corporal Punishment
Gambling
Genetic Engineering
Institutionalized Education
Marijuana Legalization
Marijauana Use
Polygamy
Pornography
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
 
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Ozymandias

i'm going on a journey
1,069
Posts
10
Years

I support

Animal Experimentation
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty
Euthanasia
Gay Rights
Institutionalized Education
Religion
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Standardized Testing
Tobacco Illegalization

I oppose

Abortion
Evolutionary Theory
Gun Control (depends on what kind... gotta keep my hunting rifles ;D)
Polygamy
Prostitution
Steroids (non-medical)
Tobacco Use

I am impartial to

Alcohol
Animal Rights
Censorship
Cloning
Gambling
Genetic Engineering
Homosexuality
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Pornography
Stem Cell Research
Vegetarianism / Veganism
 
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Posts
14
Years

I support

Abortion
Alcohol
Stem Cell Research
Spirituality (irreligious only)
Marijuana Legalization
Marijuana Use
Gay Rights
Genetic Engineering
Gun Control
Homosexuality
Euthanasia
Evolutionary Theory
Animal Rights
Cloning



I oppose

Standardized Testing
Tobacco Use
Steroids (non-medical)
Intelligent Design (It's not real lol)
Corporal Punishment
The Death Penalty


I am impartial to

Tobacco Illegalization
Vegetarianism / Veganism
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Religion
Institutionalized Education
Gambling
Censorship
Animal Experimentation
 

Melody

Banned
6,460
Posts
19
Years

I support

Indifferent to exceptions
Evolutionary Theory - Life wasn't created in a day within our space-time frame of reference.
Gambling - Taxation for Government Income.
Gay Rights - Everyone deserves to be happily married.
Gun Control - Because some people shouldn't be allowed near lethal weapons.
Homosexuality - You are who you are. You love who you love.
Institutionalized Education - Needs improvements!
Intelligent Design - But that doesn't mean Life didn't get some help from some higher powers.
Marijuana Legalization - Taxation for Government Income
Spirituality (irreligious only) - Is the best thing for a well balanced person to practice.
Stem Cell Research - Has potential to do great things if done responsibly with respect to life.

I oppose

Indifferent to exceptions
Abortion - Some exceptions to this rule: Rape, Severe Health danger to mother and/or child during and/or after birth.
Animal Experimentation - Falls under Animal Rights, Treat animals humanely please.
Censorship - Truth is seldom comfortable for all.
Corporal Punishment - Cruel and unusual punishment not necessary.
The Death Penalty - Except in cases where offender has repeatedly murdered/raped with no remorse. (In the First Degree, which means "With intent to commit" crime)
Standardized Testing - Should only measure a student's aptitude and what has been learned so that educational programs can be corrected/improved upon.

I am impartial to

Oppose exceptions, except where specified
Alcohol - I won't drink it. Should be consumed with moderation.
Animal Rights - BASIC Humane Treatment Only. (Food/Water/Happiness/Shelter/Not being abused)
Cloning - Useful if done responsibly.
Euthanasia - Only humane methods which are painless, when invoked as a final wish (last will, specified before illness) when person is no longer able to make decisions.
Genetic Engineering - Useful if done responsibly.
Marijuana Use - Useful if done responsibly.
Polygamy - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties.
Pornography - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties. Must not contain those not legally able to consent to sex.
Prostitution - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties.
Religion - Useful if practiced responsibly and reasonably.
Steroids (non-medical) - Useful if used responsibly and under the guidance of medical professionals.
Tobacco Use - Should be consumed with moderation, and respect for others in the surrounding area.
Tobacco Illegalization - Is up to the local governing bodies.
Vegetarianism / Veganism - Is great. Not something I would willingly practice without medical reasons, but is harmless. (Indifferent to exceptions)
 
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