Pokémon Sprite Discussion [from RBYG to XY]

Blaziquaza said:

Although, it's actually in its Sugimori pose. Maybe somebody pixel-overed it?

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Yes, it's been common practice for brand-new Pokémon sprites (and big jobs like redrawing nearly every Hoenn Pokémon for BW) for a long time, and examples date back to Red & Green.

Dragon Tales <3

aww leave emerald animations alone (seeing that its the only 3rd gen. game with animations)

now lets do dragonair :D

Red/Blue

It looks like a blobby worm, putting on some weight Dragonair?

Yellow

Thats better, you've been eating your veggies havent you :D

Green

WOAH! dont look in the mirror Dragonair! You might break it D:

Gold

Anorexic much? Love the colors in this one :D

Silver

hay hay hay, love this pose soooo much

Crystal

its a no-show :[ but its the same as silvers sprite, only animated

Ruby/Sapphire

....Looking into the horizon, I <3 this one.

Firered/Leafgreen

Did someone get a tan?

Emerald

ROAR ROAR I AM DRAGONAIR HEAR ME ROAR!

Diamond/Pearl/Platinum

Woahh, too many oran berries for you mister, lets loose some of that dragon weight!

Heartgold/Soulsilver

Thats much better! Look at you all confident and what not :D

Black/White

Aww dont be shy! No no your back sprite doesnt make you look fat!

See?

And dont you look so powerful in your mystery dungeon 2 sprite.

Who the best looking dragon in the world?! Yes you are! Oh yes you are <3

Honestly, I don't see what's so bad about Sceptile and Arcanine's B/W sprites. Most Pokemon were color-corrected to match their Sugimori art, so you guys must not like what they're really supposed look like then.

I love Arcanine's B/W sprite, it looks majestic, and it's finally colored correctly.

It's partly down to Dragonair's twisting body we see a lot of it's white belly in the sprite.

The other problem is that the aritsts were kinda stuck for how to render it in only 4 colours and the shading style of RGB. Make the blues too light and they start to blend in with the seperation of the white on the belly and make it less accurate to the original colours, while if it's the blues are much darker like in here it can be hard to distinguish areas of the face without giving it a very large white highlight.

Shellder next!

R/B:

The shell doesn't look curved on the sides like it should, and it's face looks more like a black Psyduck sticking it's bill out of a shell.

Y: The best of the Gen.I sprites. The shell is correct, as is the eyes, but the only problem is, the tongue seems a little bigger than normal, if you scale it with the rest of the sprite.

R/G:

The worst sprite Shellder has IMO. Exact same as the R/B, but it seems completely symmetrical, which is a definitate negative. The tongue seems hardly like a tongue at all and it's eyes lack their usual size.

G:

A very good sprite indeed. The eyes and tongue seem right, thought the tongue could be a little less thick, and the shell once again lacks it's usual curves. The colors are pretty dead on.

S: Same as G, but now the tongue seems a lot be the right size. The only problems here are the curves and the angle Shellder is facing. Not bad, but not on my favorites.

C:

I love the new colors for this sprite. Sadly, that's the only real improvement here. I'm not too thrilled with animation as it's just it blinking and moving it's tongue. Compared to other C animations, this one doesn't rank good.

R/S:

This is definately what I wanted a Shellder sprite to look like. Perfect colors. Curved shell. Tongue and eyes of the right size. Nothing bad here.

Fr/Lg:

Everything like the R/S sprite, but now it's facing towards the player, which I like. The colors even seem to be a little bit better.

E:

I don't think Shellder's animation should of been it closing it's shell and just moving back and forth. Seems very unrealistic, especially it squishing it's face. But it is better than the C animation.

D/P/Pt/B/W:

Not one of my favorites. The top of the shell doesn't seem arched enough, and the tongue seems thicker as it goes down, not to mention it's face looks a bit sideways.

Hg/Ss:A pretty good sprite. I just think it's colors seem a little brighter than it should be, but the sizing is good, but I think the shell could be a little more curved.

And while we're at it, let's do Cloyster!


R/B:

Mistakes such as the shell being horizontal and the missing head horn certainly don't help make this a good sprite, but for Gen.I sprites, I have to say, it has great colors. So it's a bit bad due to it's mistakes, but good for it's colors.

Y:

A very good angle, having Cloyster float in the air, looking down on it's opponent. Everything seems accurate, down to it's head horn. One of Cloyster's better sprites indeed,

R/G:

Personally, I find this to be Cloyster;s worst sprite. First off, the face is just a mess. It's supposed to be an orb-like face, but it looks more like a squished one. The shell semms bigger than normal, maybe due to it's abnormal head. Though it has the same colors os R/B, the colors don't seem to come off as well.

G:

It's face seems more cartoonish than normal, with it's huge eyes and mouth. The colors are good, but they end up blending in too much with all the shell layers. Coulf of been better.

S:

Though we still have the large eyes and mouth, the colors seem to be put togetehr a lot better. The angle is very good too.

C:

The animation is just the shell moving, not even doing a complete open and close, and it moves it's eyes? Plus, the colors seem to of gotten worse than before.

R/S:

Wonderful colors! And the angle is great too. I just don't like how bg it's eyes were made.

Fr/Lg:

Now this is how I'd want all the sprites to be like. A good angle, with exceptional colors, and msot of all, the right sized eyes and mouth. Just beautiful.

D/P/Pt/B/W:

For some reason, Cloyster's head was changed from black to purple (Jynx incident maybe?). I think Cloyster looked better with a blalck head, but hey, that's my opinion. The angle is good, with it looking down at the opponent. I just don't thnink it should of been angled so much in the front. It looked better a bit on the side. The colors are O.k.

Hg/Ss: The colors seem brighter than usual. And why does the left side of Cloyster's shell seem closer to it than the right? Everything else seems alright.

It should be noted that Cloyster's BW sprite has a number of fixes and tweaks to lines and body parts compared to the DP sprite.

Groundon:

R/S/FR/LG/E



Looks like he's hugging the air.

D/P/Pt/HG/SS



No comment

B/W



Best groundon sprite yet! n_n

Palkia:

D/P



Rawr. Best sprite there is.

P/HG/SS



Looks FAR too feminine.

B/W



Oh deary me.

Joenub707 said:

I adore how it evolved from 8-Bit 2D sprites to Animated 3D ones! It also looks cool how they move and how they attack in ways. It has improved from Stone Age(what I call it)sprites to Golden Age sprites!

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These aren't 3D.

By definition a sprite cannot be 3D.

That would be the case if these games were to remain on DS.

Considering the jump in resolution from the DS to the 3DS is even greater than it was from the GBA to the DS I don't think they'll stick with the same DS-sized sprites for any future endeavours. They're going to have to figure out how to adapt the battle sequences for a much wider horizontal aspect ratio than the DS and GBA displayed at for starters.

yeah so i did some calculations.



First thing was to see how large a sprite could get if you kept them at the same on-screen size. In this case that would be 25% larger, because the 3DS has 125% of the vertical resolution of the DS.

But secondly we look at the horizontal resolution too, and see just how much screen space the 3DS has to work with.



The area in green is the standard resolution of the 3DS.

Now the bounding box for a sprite in BW is 96x96 pixels, which translates to half of the screen vertically. With the extra space for Pokémon sprites to be placed on the field horizontally, you could probably make the maximum size for Pokémon sprites larger again, which also helps to fill up more vertical space. With some tweaking of the status bar placement, you could easily fit Pokémon sprites that are one and a half times larger than BW onto the screen if they were willing to do that.

(As an aside, currently backsprites in BW are very large because they're blown up to twice the size, and are often taller than half of the screen without any problems with sprites overlapping.)

I'm sure Pokemon will have to transition to a Pokemon Stadium-Like battle system in the near future. Anyhow, I might as well evaluate Hitmontop.


Gold: 9/10. For a G/S/C sprite, it looks really good,
the face is alright, but there wasn't much to work with that gen.
I would post the Silver one, but it's just a recolor of this one, really.


Ruby/Sapphire: 9/10. This sprite looks great, the I'm digging both the palette
and the pose, GF's spriters hit a home run with this one.


Emerald: 1/10. I thought Pe2k had messed up the image directory or something, apparently this is the real deal.


Diamond/Pearl: 10/10. This sprite really did Hitmontop justice as well.


HG/SS: 8/10. Again, another well done Hitmontop sprite. I preferred the limbs to be bulkier, but it makes sense why they aren't.
(B/W Sprite is a minor edit of the HG/SS one, so there's no point in rating it, really.)

Karpman said:

Emerald: 1/10. I thought Pe2k had messed up the image directory or something, apparently this is the real deal.

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Yes, Pe2k did mess up the image directory. :P



...Golbat, can you please stop trying to lick my computer screen?


...I think Mewtwo is constipated.


Kangashan has a baby in its' pouch, but Chansey has one in its' stomach.

/Rant over


I actually love this, it makes Magikarp look fiercer than it is.

I'm going to do Taurus, because I'm fairly sure it hasn't been done yet. I'm probably wrong though... XD


Green/Red
7/10
To be fair, they didn't do a horrible job. It resembles Taurus at least, and I kinda like the pose. The quality ruins it, but hey, it's not its worst sprite.


Red/Blue
3/10
I don't really like it. It looks really... wierd. Especially the face. :\


Yellow
4/10
The pose is alright, and the quality is starting to improve. But... the sick green palette is horrible, and it generally looks... cartoony? I don't know, I'm just not digging it.


Gold
5/10
The pose is rather generic, but at least the palette is getting better.


Silver
10/10
I can't really fault this. The pose is great; it makes Taurus look fast and strong. The anatomy looks good too, and it is generally well sprited. :)


Crystal
9/10
I'm dissapointed they chose to use the Gold sprite over the Silver one. On the other hand, I like the animation and it suits Taurus. Also, the palette is slightly more realistic imo.

....I'll finish it later. :P