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Zapdos @ Yache Berry
Lightningrod
EVs: 248 HP/252 SpD/8 Spe
Calm Nature
-Thunderbolt
- Roost
- Toxic
- HP Ice/Grass

Specially defensive Zapdos pretty much walls Slowbro. Ice Beam is a 2HKO without Yache Berry, while Thunderbolt can do up to 89% in one shot. Bye-bye Slowbro...
For the record, a Choice Specs Zapdos probably would have worked, but without the Yache berry, Ice Beam would have an 81% to KO Zapdos in one hit. Soooo... SpD Zapdos kinda works better.
 

Zeffy

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Blissey @Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Nature: Calm
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy

Blissey can out stall Zapdos. There's no need for additional comments haha
 

SidDays

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Years
Standard aegislash set?

Aegislash @Leftovers
Stance Change
252Atk/252HP/4SpD
Adamant
-King's Shield
-Sacred Sword
-Shadow Sneak
-Swords Dance

Seismic toss and toxic both fail
 

Zeffy

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Not really sure whether we should start posting Gen 6 sets. There are no mentions of strictly Gen 5 sets though so whatevs

Rotom-H @Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Modest
- Overheat
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Trick

Shadow Sneak does like 30% without a boost whilst Overheat OHKOs back with Overheat. Shield forme should be OHKO'd as well but i can't be assed to calculate
 
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Suicune w/Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid nature
~ Hydro Pump
~ Calm Mind
~ Ice Beam
~ Hidden Power Electric

Suicune's got heavy defensive stats, so it should be able to withstand any attack that Rotom throws at it, including Thunderbolt and Volt Switch—moves that it's super-effective to. Rotom could try to escape from Suicune by using Volt Switch, but it won't be able to; Suicune will outspeed it. With one Hydro Pump from this Pokémon, Rotom will instantly be knocked out. d:
 

Zaroas

Dragon's Might
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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
252 HP / 48 Def / 208 Special Defense
Relaxed nature
-Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip
-Thunder Wave

Ferrothorn is simply not afraid of anything Suicune can throw at it. 252 SpA Life Orb Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 78-92 (22.15 - 26.13%) -- possible 5HKO, and that's with no Calm Mind boost. With a boost, it's an 10.11% chance to 3HKO, but Ferrothorn can cripple Suicune with Thunderwave and proceed to Vine Whip it into submission - 0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 218-258 (63.92 - 75.65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Ferrothorn can also set up Leech Seed against Suicune and do much more damage while maintaining health.
 

Dark Azelf

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Suicune w/Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid nature
~ Hydro Pump
~ Calm Mind
~ Ice Beam
~ Hidden Power Electric

Suicune's got heavy defensive stats, so it should be able to withstand any attack that Rotom throws at it, including Thunderbolt and Volt Switch—moves that it's super-effective to. Rotom could try to escape from Suicune by using Volt Switch, but it won't be able to; Suicune will outspeed it. With one Hydro Pump from this Pokémon, Rotom will instantly be knocked out. d:

252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 390-458 (114.36 - 134.31%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Not a counter because it cant switch in.

Camerupt@Choice Specs
52 HP / 252 SpA / 204 Spe
Modest Nature
Trait: Solid Rock
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast
- Eruption
- Hidden Power Grass

Can tank everything Ferrothorn does and even take Thunderwaves. It then obv returns the Ko.
 

Danny0317

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252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-H Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 390-458 (114.36 - 134.31%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Not a counter because it cant switch in.

Camerupt@Choice Specs
52 HP / 252 SpA / 204 Spe
Modest Nature
Trait: Solid Rock
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast
- Eruption
- Hidden Power Grass

Can tank everything Ferrothorn does and even take Thunderwaves. It then obv returns the Ko.

Ambipom @Normal Gem
252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
Adamant Nature
Ability: Skill Link
-Giga Impact
-Beat Up
-Return
-Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.
 

PlatinumDude

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Ambipom @Normal Gem
252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
Adamant Nature
Ability: Skill Link
-Giga Impact
-Beat Up
-Return
-Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.
Let's face it: Giga Impact is TERRIBLE in competitive play. It leaves you a sitting duck the next turn:

Anyway:
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Gourgeist (Super Size):
-Will-o-Wisp
-Leech Seed
-Protect/Pain Split
-Seed Bomb
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Frisk

Gourgeist can come in on anything that Ambipom can throw at it; it has enough Defense to stomach a Beat Up, while neutering Ambipom with Will-o-Wisp or hitting it hard with Seed Bomb.
 
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Zaroas

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Anyway:
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Gourgeist (Super Size):
-Will-o-Wisp
-Leech Seed
-Protect/Pain Split
-Seed Bomb
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Frisk

Gourgeist can come in on anything that Ambipom can throw at it; it has enough Defense to stomach a Beat Up, while neutering it with Will-o-Wisp or hitting it hard with Seed Bomb.

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Volcarona @ Life Orb
Ability: Flame Body
Timid nature
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
-Quiver Dance
-Bug Buzz
-Fiery Dance/Fire Blast
-Giga Drain

Volcarona may just be Gourgeist's worst nightmare. It can absorb Will-O-Wisp with its fire typing and dual resists Seed Bomb - The only thing Gourgeist can do is Leech Seed or Protect, while Volcarona is able to set up Quiver Dances and/or OHKO it with Fiery Dance/Fire Blast or Bug Buzz. 252 SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gourgeist: 445-525 (118.98 - 140.37%) -- guaranteed OHKO.
 

Jet Pilot

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Volcarona @ Life Orb
Ability: Flame Body
Timid nature
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
-Quiver Dance
-Bug Buzz
-Fiery Dance/Fire Blast
-Giga Drain

Volcarona may just be Gourgeist's worst nightmare. It can absorb Will-O-Wisp with its fire typing and dual resists Seed Bomb - The only thing Gourgeist can do is Leech Seed or Protect, while Volcarona is able to set up Quiver Dances and/or OHKO it with Fiery Dance/Fire Blast or Bug Buzz. 252 SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gourgeist: 445-525 (118.98 - 140.37%) -- guaranteed OHKO.

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Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Ability: Rock Head
Hasty Nature
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake
Double-Edge

He will outspeed a Volcarona w/ Life Orb, Volcarona's strongest weakness is Rock. Volcarona shot down.
 

Dark Azelf

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Ambipom @Normal Gem
252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
Adamant Nature
Ability: Skill Link
-Giga Impact
-Beat Up
-Return
-Power Up Punch/Seed Bomb

Adamant nature gives it a huge attack stat (with the maxed attack EVs) and that Normal gem (and stab) return or giga impact can take anything that isnt a Ghost or steel type out. Beat up can be used to take any psychic or ghost type out. Power up punch/Seed bomb can easily take down rock opponents.


Yes because that is totally a counter to specs Camerupt. -.-

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Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Ability: Rock Head
Hasty Nature
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake
Double-Edge

He will outspeed a Volcarona w/ Life Orb, Volcarona's strongest weakness is Rock. Volcarona shot down.

Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Scald

Old School Calm cune. Counters Aero pretty well tanking all of its hits and returning the KO with Scald.
 
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Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Snow Warning
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Shard
- Wood Hammer
- Protect
- Leech Seed

252+ Atk Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 222-264 (54.95 - 65.34%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Nature: Timid
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt

Fire Blast outright OHKOs, other moves deal with other Pokemon, Taunt is a filler :p
 
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Gyarados (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Bounce
- Stone Edge

252 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 98-116 (29.6 - 35.04%) -- 15.43% chance to 3HKO
 
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Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
232 HP / 56 SAtk / 220 Spd
Nature: Modest
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Resists both of Gyarados' STABs and Stone Edge only has a mere 33.2% chance to 2HKO Rotom-W. OHKOs back with Volt Switch.
 
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Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
232 HP / 248 SDef / 28 Spd
Nature: Careful
- Spore
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Drain Punch

Poison Heal stops Rotom burning it and with the investment in Defence, Rotom-W can't deal significant damage to Breloom. Leech Seed/Protect/Drain Punch will ensure that even if Rotom-W does land a critical hit, all the HP will be recovered fairly quickly. Spore ensures that Rotom-W can't keep Pain Splitting to stay alive.
 

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Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
232 HP / 248 SDef / 28 Spd
Nature: Careful
- Spore
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Drain Punch

Poison Heal stops Rotom burning it and with the investment in Defence, Rotom-W can't deal significant damage to Breloom. Leech Seed/Protect/Drain Punch will ensure that even if Rotom-W does land a critical hit, all the HP will be recovered fairly quickly. Spore ensures that Rotom-W can't keep Pain Splitting to stay alive.

Gliscor w/Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP, 248 Def, 16 Speed
Moves: Earthquake, Ice Fang, Taunt, Roost
Nature: Impish

After the Toxic Orb activates, Spore no longer effects it. This Gliscor also doesn't give a crap about Drain Punch, and can hurt Breloom pretty bad with Ice Fang. Damage from Leech Seed can be dealt with via Poison Heal and Roost, or even Taunt. So I think this counters that Breloom.
 

Ársa

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Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Hurricane
- Roost
- Substitute

Rotom-H @ Aspear Berry
Timid
12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe
Levitate

Snatch
Shadow Ball
Charge Beam
Overheat

Lolz. Resists Ice Beam and Hurricane, can use Snatch to.. well, snatch either Roost or Substitute from Articuno. The speed EV's allow Rotom-H to outspeed it by a point. Charge Beam to boost through the sub. Aspear Berry.. for good measure.
 
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