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Keldeo-R @ Leftovers
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Icy Wind

Resists all of Bisharp's moves and OHKOs with Secret Sword on the next turn.

252 SpA Life Orb Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 723-858 (259.1 - 307.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 121-142 (37.4 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 99-117 (30.6 - 36.2%) -- 56.8% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 99-117 (30.6 - 36.2%) -- 56.8% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 199-234 (61.6 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

KorpiklaaniVodka

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Latias @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Roost
- Hidden Power Fire

Latias outspeeds Keldeo.
Hidden Power Ghost does a maximum of 41% to 4HP Latias, while Psyshock is a clear OHKO.

252 SpA Life Orb Latias Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 330-393 (102.1 - 121.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 266-316 (82.3 - 97.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Keldeo Hidden Power Ghost vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 104-124 (34.4 - 41%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Keldeo Icy Wind vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 96-114 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 91.7% chance to 3HKO
 
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Tyranitar @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Finishes off Latias with only one Crunch. Stone Edge works, too.

252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latias: 372-440 (123.1 - 145.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latias: 234-276 (77.4 - 91.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage

252 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 140-165 (34.6 - 40.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 22-26 (5.4 - 6.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
 
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Breloom (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Mach Punch
- Bullet Seed
- Rock Tomb
- Thunder Punch

Breloom's typing helps it resist all of Tyranitar's attacks by 50%. Mach Punch OHKOs Tyranitar.

252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Breloom: 102-120 (31.4 - 37%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage
252+ Atk Mega Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Breloom: 127-150 (39.1 - 46.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 456-540 (112.8 - 133.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Nah

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Something that a lotta people just got their hands on:
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-Celebi w/Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 220 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 36 Speed
Moves: Psychic, Earth Power, Giga Drain, Nasty Plot


Can take a Bullet Seed or Mach Punch without a problem, and Rock Tomb just misses the 2HKO:
252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Breloom (No Move) vs. 220 HP / 0 Def Celebi: 162-191 (40.9 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


If Bullet Seed, Mach Punch, or Thunder Punch is the move Breloom's locked into, Celebi outspeeds and OHKOs with Psychic. If Rock Tomb, Celebi can take 2 of those and then kill with Psychic.


btw, the calculator doesn't have Rock Tomb (which is why it says "No Move" instead of Rock Tomb in the above calc) in it for some reason, but I just made a 60 BP physical Rock attack in one of the slots, so that should suffice.
 
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Honchkrow (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Sucker Punch
- Brave Bird
- Superpower
- Roost

Immune to Psychic and Earth Power; takes less than 30% from Giga Drain.

252+ SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Honchkrow: 93-111 (23 - 27.4%) -- 66.1% chance to 4HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 220 HP / 0 Def Celebi: 546-642 (137.8 - 162.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake


Comes in, lowers Honchkrow's attack with Intimidate, then knocks it out with Outrage. Best Honchkrow could do is use Brave Bird, which would take two turns to KO Salamence.

252 Atk Choice Band Salamence Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Honchkrow: 510-600 (126.2 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Salamence: 243-289 (73.4 - 87.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Salamence: 164-192 (49.5 - 58%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO

EDIT: nvm here's a better counter.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252HP / 232Def / 24Spe
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Stealth rock
- Roost
- Brave Bird

0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Honchkrow: 181-214 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 27.3% chance to 2HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 105-125 (31.4 - 37.4%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 78-92 (23.3 - 27.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Superpower vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 104-123 (31.1 - 36.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Magnezone @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flash Cannon
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

The lack of Whirlwind on Skarmory makes it impossible for it to escape from Magnezone's clutches. Magnezone can safely use Substitute and 2HKO with Thunderbolt.

0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 24-28 (8.5 - 9.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 434-512 (129.9 - 153.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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Magnezone @ Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull
EV's: 172 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Spe
Nature: Modest
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Flash Cannon

252 SpA Mag Thunderbolt vs 172 HP/0 SpD Mag: (24.6 - 29.2%)
252 SpA+ Mag Hidden Power [Fire] vs 4 HP /0 SpD Mag: (56 - 65.9%)

Spoiler:
 

Arc

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Stunfisk @ Choice Specs
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpDef
Nature: Modest
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Sludge Wave

Immune to Thunderbolt, and both Flash Cannon and HP (Fire) are 5HKO. Stunfisk can then OHKO with Earth Power.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Stunfisk Earth Power vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 772-912 (238.2 - 281.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 72-85 (17 - 20.1%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 73-86 (17.2 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO
 

Nah

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lol Stunfisk

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-Blissey w/Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Softboiled, Aromotherapy, Toxic, Flamethrower

Rofls at Stunfisk's attacks, then sits back and watches it slowly die from Toxic, occasionally healing itself.
 
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Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- DynamicPunch
- Ice Punch
- Stone Edge

Keeps Dynamic Punching until Blissey's down to the ground.

0 SpA Blissey Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Machamp: 58-69 (15.1 - 17.9%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Machamp Dynamic Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 714-840 (100 - 117.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Slack Off
- Thunder Wave

16 SpA Slowbro Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 212-252 (55.2 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Machamp Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Slowbro: 82-97 (20.8 - 24.6%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
  • Toxic
  • Scald
  • Rest
  • Sleep Talk

Poisons it, then stalls it out with Rest and Sleep Talk. Recovers HP when getting struck with Scald thanks to Water Absorb, and doesn't take much damage from Psyshock.

16 SpA Slowbro Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 58-69 (14.3 - 17%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
 

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-Zapdos w/Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Thunderbolt, Heat Wave, Hidden Power Ice, Roost

Alright, came up with a solid Suicune counter this time, unlike my Charge Lanturn attempt. Scald's a 4HKO:

0 SpA Suicune Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 87-103 (27 - 31.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

And since this Suicune lacks Sp.Defense investment and Calm Mind, Thunderbolt does massive damage to it.
 

Tyrael

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Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

252 SpA Life Orb Zapdos Heat Wave vs. 36 HP / 0 SpD Thick Fat Mamoswine: 200-237 (54 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Mamoswine Icicle Crash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zapdos: 350-414 (108.6 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Mamoswine Icicle Spear (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zapdos: 312-378 (96.8 - 117.3%) -- approx. 93.8% chance to OHKO

Switches into Zapdos using Thunderbolt, and can easily OHKO back with either of the listed moves(would be very unlucky to not OHKO with Spear). Is even able to switch into a Heat Wave, tank it, and outspeed for the KO.
 
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Magnezone @ Air Balloon
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flash Cannon
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Ice]

252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 36 HP / 0 SpD Mamoswine: 434-512 (117.2 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Mamoswine Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 100-120 (29 - 34.8%) -- approx. 1% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Mamoswine Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 67-80 (19.4 - 23.2%) -- possible 5HKO
 

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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Trait: Sticky Hold
EVs: 252 Def/252 HP/4SpD
Bold Nature (+Def -ATK)
- Recover
- Earthquake
- Block
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Completely walls Magnezone. Shrugs off the pesky thunderbolt and also takes Flash Cannon and the Hidden Power pretty well. Block is to trap in Pokemon that attempt a switch and an Earthquake can easily OHKO or 2HKO a Magnezone after a single hidden power which should also do noticeable damage pops the air balloon.
 

PlatinumDude

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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Trait: Sticky Hold
EVs: 252 Def/252 HP/4SpD
Bold Nature (+Def -ATK)
- Recover
- Earthquake
- Block
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Completely walls Magnezone. Shrugs off the pesky thunderbolt and also takes Flash Cannon and the Hidden Power pretty well. Block is to trap in Pokemon that attempt a switch and an Earthquake can easily OHKO or 2HKO a Magnezone after a single hidden power which should also do noticeable damage pops the air balloon.

Just saying, a Bold nature ruins Earthquake's power. You could've gone Relaxed, IMO.

Zygarde:
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-Coil
-Earthquake
-Dragon Tail
-Substitute
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Zygarde shrugs off every hit Gastrodon throws at it, and uses it as setup bait for Coil.
 

Gigabeat

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Just saying, a Bold nature ruins Earthquake's power. You could've gone Relaxed, IMO.

Zygarde:
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-Coil
-Earthquake
-Dragon Tail
-Substitute
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers

Zygarde shrugs off every hit Gastrodon throws at it, and uses it as setup bait for Coil.

Thanks for the tip! I just I could've done that, but because it was locked in with Block I could pretty much muck around with it and still kill it after two earthquakes since he couldn't do much to me. I didn't want to die from an unexpected critical hit or something like that.

Togekiss@Choice Scarf
252 SpA/252 HP/4 Speed
Serene Grace
- Air Slash
- Extremespeed
- Roost
- Dazzling Gleam

What can I say? This little fairy resists both dragon type moves and ground type moves, essentially forcing a switch. With Chocie Scarf however, Togekiss can out speed a non choiced Zygarde with little or no speed investment and proceed to Dazzling Gleam. Air Slash and Extremespeed can be used after Dazzling Gleam if it somehow dosent 0HKO, but that's pretty unlikely. The only thing it can do now is set up substitutes after substitutes, but eventually it'll be too weak. This set also renders Coil useless, as it leaves Zygarde with no attacking option.
 
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