Competitive Battling Chat

Perriechu · Dec 22, 2011

Volbeat is pretty fun to use. I usually run Thunder Wave/Tail Glow/Baton Pass/Random non-taunt bait filler move. Thunder Wave -> Tail Glow -> Pass it on. It's by no means a top tier baton passer but it works well if done properly. :3

Ugh I see Gastrodon's everywhere now. :c

Ho-Oh · Dec 22, 2011

Uhh @ former: Deoxys-S could, so Deoxys-D can, Zong, Jirachi, Mew probably, etc. I just use Zong for it :)

Also nothing wrong with mass Gastrodon as long as you have a grass type. :x

Perriechu · Dec 22, 2011

Kittyipawd said:
Because passing a 2.5 boost is fun with priority though. Anyways can someone find a list of all things that learn Dual Screens and SR and Dual Screens and U-Turn/Voltswitch

Dual Screens and Stealth Rock;
Clefairy, Clefable, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Mew, Pineco, Forretress, Magcargo, Swinub, Piloswine, Corsola, Celebi, Lunatone, Solrock, Baltoy, Claydol, Metang, Metagross, Jirachi, Deoxys, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Bronzor, Bronzong, Mamoswine, Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, Smeargle

Dual Screens and Volt Switch;
Magnemite, Magneton, Mew, Raikou, Forretress, Magnezone, Rotom (All forms), Smeargle

Dual Screens and U-turn;
Mew, Ledyba, Ledian, Natu, Xatu, Celebi, Jirachi, Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf, Manaphy, Woobat, Swoobat, Genesect and Smeargle.

I spent far too long doing that. Here's Serebii's moveset calculator for future use. :) click me etc

@Forever - But Grass-types usually don't have a space on my team. ))):

marcc5m · Dec 22, 2011

Forever said:
Uhh @ former: Deoxys-S could, so Deoxys-D can, Zong, Jirachi, Mew probably, etc. I just use Zong for it :)

Also nothing wrong with mass Gastrodon as long as you have a grass type. :x

Deoxys-S is banned.

Anyway, speaking of bans, Snover and Abomasnow are now BL. In other words, Snow Warning is now gone in every tier but OU and Ubers.

Ho-Oh · Dec 22, 2011

I know, that's why I said "could", and everything else as "can", lol.

For some reason I don't think hail will be used as much, tbh. Because in UU it only had to contend with sand, but in OU it instantly has two other weather types and idk... I always view rain/sand/sun as superior /bias

dragonomega, that's such a sin! I haven't used a team lately without some sort of grass Pokemon, they're so useful :( go fix this rn!!

Perriechu · Dec 23, 2011

Forever said:
I know, that's why I said "could", and everything else as "can", lol.

For some reason I don't think hail will be used as much, tbh. Because in UU it only had to contend with sand, but in OU it instantly has two other weather types and idk... I always view rain/sand/sun as superior /bias

dragonomega, that's such a sin! I haven't used a team lately without some sort of grass Pokemon, they're so useful :( go fix this rn!!

;o; I put an SD Virizion into it. It works a bit better, however I haven't seen one Gastrodon... >: Quagsire and Swampert are a bit low as well. All I see are Lati@s, Tyranitar etc

I agree with the 'Hail won't be used' because it probably won't. Abomasnow is pretty much owned by all Weather starters, (Barr Politoed) and Hail doesn't have the best abusers. I really do think that Hail needs a new secondary effect than just minor damage every turn.

PlatinumDude · Dec 23, 2011

dragonomega said:
;o; I put an SD Virizion into it. It works a bit better, however I haven't seen one Gastrodon... >: Quagsire and Swampert are a bit low as well. All I see are Lati@s, Tyranitar etc

I agree with the 'Hail won't be used' because it probably won't. Abomasnow is pretty much owned by all Weather starters, (Barr Politoed) and Hail doesn't have the best abusers. I really do think that Hail needs a new secondary effect than just minor damage every turn.

A possible secondary effect of Hail that I've had in mind for some time could be that Ice Pokemon will receive a 1.5x boost to their Defense in Hail. What does anyone think?

Perriechu · Dec 23, 2011

PlatinumDude said:
A possible secondary effect of Hail that I've had in mind for some time could be that Ice Pokemon will receive a 1.5x boost to their Defense in Hail. What does anyone think?

I think that would be pretty nifty but Ice types aren't the best, defensive-wise. D: I guess a raise in speed, or offensive stats would be the best option?

Ho-Oh · Dec 23, 2011

Oh wow, just imagine Froslass w/ Snow Cloak in Hail, raising its evasion and its speed, perfect for a revenge killer!

...despite it being used mainly for spikes and stuff. :x

Vrai · Dec 23, 2011

Speaking of hail, Snow Warning was just banned in UU and below. :)

Ho-Oh · Dec 23, 2011

Yes Vrai that is why we were discussing it!

Why else would we randomly discuss the worst weather of all? :3

marcc5m · Dec 23, 2011

Vrai said:
Speaking of hail, Snow Warning was just banned in UU and below. :)

Yup. I already said that :)

Sucks they had to ban the most christmasy weather so near to christmas though.

.Gamer · Dec 23, 2011

Fireworks said:
Deoxys-S is banned.

Anyway, speaking of bans, Snover and Abomasnow are now BL. In other words, Snow Warning is now gone in every tier but OU and Ubers.

There is a God, and he is good.

Skip Shot · Dec 23, 2011

Well nice to see server is active as usual lolz

Anyways what have I missed over the past few months? I'm around for the holidays =)

Perriechu · Dec 23, 2011

Skip Shot said:
Well nice to see server is active as usual lolz

Anyways what have I missed over the past few months? I'm around for the holidays =)

Quite a bit, I'd imagine, but I kinda wandered off from competitive battling so I missed a bit too. :x From what I gather, Excadrill, Thundurus & Deoxys-S are banned, along with Hail.

~~in other news i was asked for sexual favors on our PO server. :xx~~

Webdemon · Dec 23, 2011

Fireworks said:
Deoxys-S is banned.

Anyway, speaking of bans, Snover and Abomasnow are now BL. In other words, Snow Warning is now gone in every tier but OU and Ubers.

I have nothing to say to this. ~~tourneyphaggotry strikes again~~

Other than I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Ho-Oh · Dec 23, 2011

dragonomega said:
Quite a bit, I'd imagine, but I kinda wandered off from competitive battling so I missed a bit too. :x From what I gather, Excadrill, Thundurus & Deoxys-S are banned, along with Hail.

~~in other news i was asked for sexual favors on our PO server. :xx~~

And Scizor is #1 in usage. AND RAIN WON'T GTFO. /all the necessary facts
(also you should specify, 'cause 3 are banned from OU and the other isn't :x)

Oh... and that "person" "regularly" does that... or at least every month. It's creepy.

vaporeon7 · Dec 23, 2011

I can't see hail being used much anymore either. Abomasnow has too many counters and the fact that almost only ice types get a benefit from it, and ice is a horrible defensive typing. It's like why use hail when you can use sandstorm.

dragonomega said:
I really do think that Hail needs a new secondary effect than just minor damage every turn.

Hail needs to boost Ice's defence or special defence by 50% to compete with sandstorm imo.

DarkWolf13 · Dec 23, 2011

vaporeon7 said:
Hail needs to boost Ice's defence or special defence by 50% to compete with sandstorm imo.

hail does activate a few abilities such as Snow Cloak(Raises evasion) and Ice Body (Restores little HP every turn). idk if i'm correct but doesn't hail guarantees Blizzard a strike on every turn?

Perriechu · Dec 23, 2011

PokeRaidenFighter350Z said:
hail does activate a few abilities such as Snow Cloak(Raises evasion) and Ice Body (Restores little HP every turn). idk if i'm correct but doesn't hail guarantees Blizzard a strike on every turn?

Yeah it does. But other weather abilities work without abilities. Like Sun powers up Fire moves, lowers Water damage and lets you instantly fire off Solarbeam. Rain lets Thunder and Hurricane have 100% accuracy and gives Water moves a rise in power and Fire moves a reduction and then Sand gives Rock-types 50% boosts to their special defense, Rock, Steel & Ground types take nil from the Sandstorm damage and there's the Solarbeam, Thunder & Hurricane accuracy cut that it brings.

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