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5th Gen [Spoiler]Pokemon World Tournament Discussion

Do you like Pokemon World Tournament?

  • Yes! I love this new feature!

    Votes: 170 89.5%
  • No, I don't like this new feature!

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Maybe, I am not sure I like or don't like this new feature.

    Votes: 18 9.5%

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blue

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That's what I thought, I wonder if they will just be designated either the same sound track or remixed of their regional gym music. There was a soundtrack coded into Black & White for the Champion of Kanto but was never used in the games, surely this would be perfect for Green.


Also, still looking forward (assuming they do) to them revealing some more gym leaders returning, by the looks of things we'll get a few more considering day by day we've learnt about a couple more appearing, just want to know if we'll see any Hoenn leaders.
 
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I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet.

Giovanni and Janine weren't Gym Leaders at the same point in time. Any thoughts on this? I doubt they would invite a known criminal organization leader in to a tournament of respectable trainers unless he was still a Gym Leader and it was still a secret, unless it's not supposed to be considered canon and these are all cameo-like appearances.

And Blue, would he be there under his most recent title of Gym Leader or his highest title as Champion?
 

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire

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I too wonder what title he'll have...
I hope that they update the themes to B2W2, I'll like to hear an updated version of Steven's theme in the tournament :3.
 

blue

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Just some clearer/new pictures of the Tournament, I love how the OW sprites look of the Gym Leaders in the third image, we haven't seen them BW style before!
 

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You know, if your character is in the tournament... why? Is it after you beat the Elite Four twice - and become the best in the region? Are you only qualified to compete because of that? Are you invited to join after stopping Plasma (?) from ruining Kyurem (?) by Juniper? That's what I wonder tbh.

Also I love how I was right-ish. :3
 
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Noooo, because RSE takes place at the same time as Rby due to the team rocket people and stuff.

What are you talking about? There's no Team Rocket in R/S/E storyline.

More on-topic: I think World Tournament might be limited on purpose in B2/W2 (not all Gym Leaders, not full teams) to be improved in future games. Kinda like it was done with limited Gym Leaders rematches from Platinum improved in HG/SS.
 

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Considering each of them have three Pokémon maybe again it's like a Battle Frontier feature i.e they're set at Level 100 specialising in their typing which would be accessible post-storyline.

Also, although there are no Johto/Hoenn leaders there currently that doesn't rule them out..
"You can download more trainers via special distribution methods such as the Nintendo WiFi Connection, as time goes on. These include many of the special trainers seen below"
Even then, we don't have full details on it yet.
 
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Particularly if it's non-canon, perhaps former player characters and evil team leaders would be announced. Not that I'm particularly in support of either (besides Leaf, of course) because I really don't like having anything non-canon in the handheld Pokemon games.
 
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Particularly if it's non-canon, perhaps former player characters and evil team leaders would be announced. Not that I'm particularly in support of either (besides Leaf, of course) because I really don't like having anything non-canon in the handheld Pokemon games.

Its just Champions and Gym Leaders. Since none of the other PC's are "Champions" by programming in the games, I doubt they'll appear.

Kinda hope the Unova Gym Leaders get added to the Tournament cause I would love to see what Homika and Cheren would be using if the teams don't alternate.
 

blue

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Its just Champions and Gym Leaders. Since none of the other PC's are "Champions" by programming in the games, I doubt they'll appear.

Kinda hope the Unova Gym Leaders get added to the Tournament cause I would love to see what Homika and Cheren would be using if the teams don't alternate.

I would have thought that this would be exclusively for the other region Gym Leaders and then the Unova Leaders will be rematchable in their gyms after the E4. I hope they have gym rematches in B2W2, it was a disappointment that they didn't in BW.
 

bwburke94

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- if it wasn't canon both Steven and Wallace would appear in Corocoro being labeled as Champions, but only Steven appeared. It also most likely indicates that B2/W2 take place before R/S/E.

Assuming remakes are canon, which they most likely are:

R/S/E occurs before HG/SS (confirmed by Steven referencing the Hoenn protagonists)
HG/SS occurs concurrently with D/P/Pt (Red Gyarados news report and various other hints)
D/P/Pt occurs before B/W (confirmed by Cynthia referencing the Sinnoh protagonists)
B/W occurs before B2/W2 (direct sequels)

Therefore, R/S/E occurs before B2/W2. As for the Wallace argument, he didn't appear as a gym leader either.
 
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It also most likely indicates that B2/W2 take place before R/S/E.
Which makes no sense, considering that BW confirmed that RSE takes place before HGSSDPPt with the ""after a long travel through time"" message present on Pal Park'd Pokemon's summaries.

And this still doesn't excuse the fact that all the trainers look exactly the same after so many years.
 
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R/S/E occurs before HG/SS (confirmed by Steven referencing the Hoenn protagonists)

Steven doesn't say anything that is 100% about Hoenn protagonists. No proof at all. Events from gens 1, 2 and 4 are 100% confirmed to have already happened before B/W, while only R/S/E events are not even mentioned. Why?


Which makes no sense, considering that BW confirmed that RSE takes place before HGSSDPPt with the ""after a long travel through time"" message present on Pal Park'd Pokemon's summaries.

Where is that confirmation? "Travel through time" can mean as well that R/S/E take place after B/W and B2/W2. It's not said if Pokemon arrived from past or future.
Anyway, this message about travel through time is shown only for Pokemon transfered from GBA games. Pokemon transfered from R/S remakes won't have this message anymore, so there is no proof at all.

This timeline discussion is for another thread, so if you have any other ideas to prove I'm wrong about timeline, post them in appropriate thread.
 
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Not sure how I feel about this yet. I like the idea, but I need to see what the restrictions are and all that stuff. Hope it lives up to my expectations though.
 

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Yes this sounds amazing! Something to keep me interested when I get the game! :D
 
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Is anyone more excited for the show or for the game? I'm for the game, but how can this guy's name also be Black in the manga if Black's name is Black?
 
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I'm super excited for this. I can't wait for the games to come out, that way I can abuse the heck out of this feature. I'll be sure to get every download possible to be able to battle every person available! I'm really excited to see what the Pokemon for each person will be!
 
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