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6th Gen Starter Pokémon

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RedWing

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I do have to say, the weaknesses that come with Grass/Dark are abysmal. Especially if you plan on using Chespin competitively against threats like Scizor or Charizard ;_;

Still, Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Fighting are my hopes.
 
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Can't go wrong with a fire-fox for a starter. That is, unless you turn it into another fire/fighting type down the road :/
 
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But Grass/Dark also has 7 resistances. Ground/Ghost/Water/Grass/Electric/Dark and is immune to Psychic

That many weaknesses is still very unattrative and I don't want to have to worry about constantly switching out because some pokemon might have a fighting move on top of all the grass weakness to deal with. Heaven forbid they carry some very weak bug move that nearly KOs since it's x4 effective. The weakness to fighting moves is honestly the most annoying for me since I do occasionally like to match grass types against fighting types.

If Froakie is water/fighting it will have amazing coverage with super effective STAB on 8 different types while also only have 4 weakness alongside it's 6 resistances. Fighting typing is simply extremely useful and water provides it's own benefits. I wouldn't mind freeing up a spot that I'd otherwise be encouraged to fill with a fighting type.
 
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If Froakie is water/fighting it will have amazing coverage with super effective STAB on 8 different types while also only have 4 weakness alongside it's 6 resistances. Fighting typing is simply extremely useful and water provides it's own benefits. I wouldn't mind freeing up a spot that I'd otherwise be encouraged to fill with a fighting type.

However, that means it's most likely to be physical, unless it learns Aura Sphere through some magical... way. While that isn't really an issue, it's just that it'd be even better if it learnt Ice Beam so it had Surf/Grass Knot/Ice Beam/Aura Sphere... aka the better Samurott! Although if it were in the tier Samurott is in it would still need Megahorn sooo maybe not. In higher tiers I think it could work, given that Keldeo seems to work fine.
 
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Chespin vs Oshawott

I was searching for pictures of Chespin online and I found out people think Chespin looks like a fan made grass version of Oshawott. What's your opinion? I don't see the resemblence.
 

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I digress. I don't see the resemblance. I don't think they're going to use previous starters as a basis to start a new generation.

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I don't see it at all. I think Chespin looks more like a grass type emolga.

Oshawott was my pick in the last gen and one of my favourite starters. So far Chespin is my least favourite of this gens starters.
 

Serperion

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How does Chespin look like a Grass Emolga? I seriously don't see your logic, In my opinion it looks like Oshawott because of Body Type, head:body ratio and arm and leg length. I have favored the last three Generations Grass-types because well Treecko is Fast which was a change. Turtwig was a giant, and Serperior had the weirdest stat setting. Chespin at the moment looks like it would play the better role of the Generations rodent (Rattata, Sentret, Zigzagoon, etc.).

Fennekin I know they are going to screw up I mean if they can turn Chickens and Pigs into Punching Bags, which punch back they can do it for a fox.

Lastly is Froakie honeslty its design reminds me of Patrat a bit too much. However considering how many "Like a sir" memes have been made around Froakie I'm wondering how its evolutions will turn out? Will they wear a monocle?
 

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I don't see it at all. I think Chespin looks more like a grass type emolga.

Oshawott was my pick in the last gen and one of my favourite starters. So far Chespin is my least favourite of this gens starters.

Emolga's cute but... Emolga was one of the two Pikachu clones in B/W. You're basically saying it looks like Pikachu, kind of. :x They just seem too different.
 

MrDollSteak

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I like Chespin the best.
Fennekin looks awesome, but knowing gamefreak,
they still have time to make it fire/fighting.
I think Chespin has the best potential.
 

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I like Chespin the best.
Fennekin looks awesome, but knowing gamefreak,
they still have time to make it fire/fighting.
I think Chespin has the best potential.

Well there is time yeah but it just doesn't look like a fighter, compared to how Froakie looks. It looks like it's actually going to cross chop you, kind of like Toxicroak really (although we think it'll be ice BUT W/E).
 

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I never judge the starters till i see there evolutions thats when i think you can tell how they will be
 
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Hey guys, I'm new here. Made the account specifically for this thread in fact. I've got some speculation and I've been dying to have some others besides close friends hear me out xD

First of all, Froakie clearly looks exactly like Benjamin Franklin to me. This cannot be an accident, he even has the little glasses. In relation to that, I believe Froakie will become a Water/Electric type, with his "bubble" hair turning into clouds in a Raikou/Thunderous type fashion. Water/Flying and perhaps Water/Fighting are also options. However, I don't think gamefreak would create TWO Water/Fighting Frog pokemon and if you read further, Water/Flying would force Fennekin into the Fire/Fighting spot (Fire Psychic would not work because the type combinations for Chespin do not allow it without Froakie being Fighting). This could very well be the case, I'll get to this in a second.

Chespin can be many things at face value, perhaps Grass/Fighting, Grass/Ground, Grass/Steel, Grass/Rock and Grass/Dark. I'll explain why he can't be Grass/Fighting in a moment, and my thoughts on Grass/Ground. Grass/Steel wouldn't work either, as a Fennekin would then have 4x super effectiveness against him. None of the options I've thought of allow Chespin to be 4x super effective against Froakie and for Froakie to have the same typing against Fennekin. Fennekin would need to be Fire/Ground or Fire/Rock, and of those only Ground could possibly make sense. If he is ground and Chespin Steel, then Froakie would need to be Rock, which seems very far fetched. This means that the only possible typing I see left for him is Grass/Ground, and Grass/Rock unless these pokemon go through some seriously drastic changes in their evolutions.

Next we have Fennekin whom I think will be either Fire/Flying, Fire/Fighting or Fire/Psychic. Fire/Flying would give him a distinct advantage against Chespin though, especially if he turns out to be Fighting, the same can be said about Psychic, and if he was Fighting then Chespin would not be. So if my speculation on Fennekin is correct, Chespin CANNOT be Fighting as secondary. In the case of a Psychic Fennekin, a Dark Chespin would not work either, it would allow Chespin to be super effective against Fennekin, but then Froakie would have no such advantage versus Chespin, and it would be unequal. A case where this could work is if Froakie ends up being Water/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Dark and Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, then all of them would be both weak to, and strong against their counter parts. However, again, I don't think a Water/Fighting Froakie would be accepted since he would be a carbon copy of Poliwrath.

In short, my hypothetical combinations are as follows:
(Fennekin as Fire/Flying, Chespin as Grass/Ground, and Froakie as Water/Electric) This makes it so the Power Triangle actually has two lines, Fire beats grass, beats water, beats fire, and also Flying beats ground (Not super effective, but immune), beats Electric, beats Flying.
(Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, Chespin as Grass/Dark, and Froakie as Water/Fighting) I don't think it will happen, but it's the only way I see to make Fennekin Psychic, and it technically would work.
(Fennekin as Fire/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Rock, and Froakie as Water/Flying) Same as option one except with different typing.

So really only options one and three are in the race, I can't see them making Froakie Fighting. Due to angst from the community, I doubt they are going to make a fourth Fire/Fighting type, and the wing-like fur on Fennekin does inspire some Flying ideas. He is also based after a Desert fox, no? And we all know about the desert and it's ties to wind and heat.

In conclusion, I think that the typing will be option one, [Fennekin as Fire/Flying (Desert Fox), Chespin as Grass/Ground (Hedgehog), and Froakie as Water/Electric (Benjamin Franklin)]

Sadly, I don't think I'm allowed to post my favorite fan art.

Do you like this? Any problems with my post and theory? Please feel free to respond ^^ and thanks for reading.
 

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First off, welcome to the community!

Now onto your thoughts... Technically, there is a slight error in your ideas / theories with the starter's duo typing you suggested. Instead of giving each starter a type advantage over their weakness, you're simply giving them an added advantage against what they already have an advantage over. I'm not sure if you noticed that or not.

I'm referring to this, specifically:

In short, my hypothetical combinations are as follows:
(Fennekin as Fire/Flying, Chespin as Grass/Ground, and Froakie as Water/Electric) This makes it so the Power Triangle actually has two lines, Fire beats grass, beats water, beats fire, and also Flying beats ground (Not super effective, but immune), beats Electric, beats Flying.
(Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, Chespin as Grass/Dark, and Froakie as Water/Fighting) I don't think it will happen, but it's the only way I see to make Fennekin Psychic, and it technically would work.
(Fennekin as Fire/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Rock, and Froakie as Water/Flying) Same as option one except with different typing.
Fennekin's evolution being Fire/Flying just gives it a double advantage over Chespin's should it be Grass/Ground. While Chespin has a double advantage over Froakie, and Froakie over Fennekin. Same would apply to your idea of Fennekin being Fire / Fighting, Chespin being Grass / Rock, and Froakie as a Water / Flying. Except this time, Froakie actually does have a balanced advantage over Fennekin, but that's it.

Technically, you're not changing anything. You're basically keeping the the flow of each starter as is it, just giving them an extra type advantage.

Also, I wouldn't put it against GameFreak to make Froakie a Water / Fighting frog just because we have Poliwrath already. If they can make a a Normal / Flying bird for each region or a Fire / Fighting type starter three generations in a row, then a second Water / Fighting Frog Pokémon isn't out of the realm of possibility.
 
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Okay Chespin and Fennekin actually look like the cute pokemon from the early generations. That frog tho...... I'll go with Chespin

Froakie is the best starter for Gen 6! XD

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tente2

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I don't see it at all. I think Chespin looks more like a grass type emolga.

Oshawott was my pick in the last gen and one of my favourite starters. So far Chespin is my least favourite of this gens starters.

I 100% agree! Obviously, taste is a matter of opinion, but the "love Oshawott, dislike Chespin" is not an opinion I find to be very common, which I find a little shocking. Especially considering all the absurd hate Froakie gets for no reason.

Emolga's cute but... Emolga was one of the two Pikachu clones in B/W. You're basically saying it looks like Pikachu, kind of. :x They just seem too different.

What was the other "Pikachu clone"? (And just so everybody knows, I do not believe in "Pikachu clones". The style of Pokemon is consistent enough that many Pokemon share similarities. Just because two Pokemon look similar and have a similar typing (or sometimes not even that) does not make it justifiable to shout "IT'S A CLONE" within the first five seconds of seeing the Pokemon. But, eh, people have always been comparing Pokemon so it's not a big deal.)


Anyway, ArdentSun, I appreciate how well thought out your speculation was, but to be absolutely frank, I think you might be overthinking it a little. Gamefreak has had a poor history of paying little attention the typings of its starters, so I wouldn't go super in-depth about what counters what. Honestly, I don't care so much about those kinds of things anyway (as long as its not a stupid Dark/Psychic/Fighting pseudotriangle). On a completely unrelated note, welcome to the community! I feel you'll have no trouble fitting in. I wish my posts were as substantial as yours when I first signed up.
 
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Haha not much love for Froakie? I'm personally choosing Froakie. I was torn between him and Chespin but I always go with the grass starter first so time to change things up. Am I the only one here who doesn't like Fennekin?
 
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