6th Gen Possible leak on 2chan/reddit of starter evos

Pinkie-Dawn said:

I hope this is fake because:

1) Chespin looks nothing like it could evolve into a Grass/Dark type, more like Grass/Ground

2) Dark and Psychic were formally special-based moves, and all the other secondary types in the past were formally physical-based, which makes it a pattern

3) Dark/Pyschic/Fighting is an unbalanced type cycle because Dark is immune to Psychic, unlike Grass/Fire/Water, where all three can hit each other supper effectively and not very effectively even as dual types

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1) Torchic doesn't look like a fighting type at all, and yet here we are.

2) I really don't think that matters after the physical/special split. Actually, I doubt it mattered even before that. It's not like there's really a reason for them to keep that pattern like there is for, say, having certain types for starters or having a duo/trio of legendaries for the game covers.

3) This is a pretty minor problem given that fire still hits grass SEly. And that type trio has already been referenced in BW anyway- one of the triple battle rematches in Opelucid uses Bisharp/Elgyem/Mienfoo while the other uses the elemental monkey trio- so Gamefreak is apparently fine with it.

That aside, I still don't think this is legit. But we'll see.

It would be interesting if true. Fennekin being Fire/Psychic is a step up from Fire/Fighting certainly. However Im hesitant to believe any of this yet, until real confirmed info comes about despite that true info sometimes does surface on 2ch.

Flydro said:

I'm totally against it becoming a Water/Fighting type because we already have Poliwrath and I think they should let Froakie develop into a different type of frog instead of trying to make up for what Poliwrath is lacking. We have three different frogs: Poliwrath, Toxicroak and Seismitoad so I think Game Freak should go a new route with Froakie.

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I think Froakie's next evolution will look like this:



We don't have any frogs that look like that.

Polizard said:

That's a really hollow argument there are heaps of Pokemon with the same types as starter Pokemon. Swampert/Wishcash/Gastradon/Palpitoed ,Bulbasaur line/ Bellsprout line, Bulbasuar line/ and Oddish line i think that is it an either way Poliwag is amazing and everyone would be lucky if it was a starter.


I will feel very at home with a Water/fighting type so I would be very happy if this turns out to be true.

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shubham2207 said:

Then y charizard is not a legendary pkmn? Moltres is also fire/flying... XD

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Its not just the fact that it could be a Water/Fighting type, but that it would be a Water/Fighting type that is also part of a three-stage evolutionary line and based on a frog, just like the Poliwag line.

The differences between Swampert, Whiscash, Gastradon, and Palpitoed are apparent when looking at their origin. They are based on a salamander, a catfish, a sea slug, and a toad, respectively. Likewise, Charizard is a dragon while Moltres is a phoenix. The same also applies to Bulbasaur, Bellsprout, and Oddish (dinosaur, venus flytrap, and radish, respectively).

When I saw the name "Lunyrite", I thought it was going to be an evolution for Lunatone!

As for the starters' types... MAKE. IT. HAPPEN!!!!!

I hope this is real. Like a lot of people, I'm pretty sick of Fire/Fighting with the starters (I wouldn't mind it for wild Pokemon though).

@ Superfox Swampert's based on a mudskipper not a salamender. And than there's Ho-Oh who is also part Fire/Flying and based on a Phoenix (the asian version of one).

Either way I don't mind another water/fighting frog as long as they make it a different type of frog/toad.

Aerilyn said:

Even though Dark is immune to Psychic, with the way this potential leak has been set up, it's still all pretty balanced in terms of each starter being strong and weak against one another.

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It's still perfectly balanced. You just don't use Psychic attacks against a Dark type, and you won't need to. First of all, your rival won't choose grass if you choose fire. Second, even if you're fighitng someone with the Grass / Dark final, you'd use your Fire moves. You wouldn't use your Fire moves against the water type, would you? No, you'd use your Psychic moves. Just the same, you wouldn't use your Psychic moves against a Dark type, you use the Fire moves.

Anywhoozle, I really hope this is true, and I actually think the trailer supports it. Their moves look like Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

@ Superfox Swampert's based on a mudskipper not a salamender. And than there's Ho-Oh who is also part Fire/Flying and based on a Phoenix (the asian version of one).

Either way I don't mind another water/fighting frog as long as they make it a different type of frog/toad.

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Actually Mudkip is mostly based on a mudpuppy or an axolotl, which are both types of salamanders. There may be some influence from mudskippers in there, but little to none. In fact, I think the only thing that is at all influenced by mudskippers seems to be its name.

Shiny Bidoof said:

I think Froakie's next evolution will look like this:

We don't have any frogs that look like that.

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I doubt it. It looks to me like he is ready to stand up. If he had little tiny legs that didn't look like they could extend, then yeah, but he looks like he will be a more agile type to me. Anyway it'll be nice to finally see how it turns out.

jellotime91 said:

I doubt it. It looks to me like he is ready to stand up. If he had little tiny legs that didn't look like they could extend, then yeah, but he looks like he will be a more agile type to me. Anyway it'll be nice to finally see how it turns out.

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I don't disagree, but I wouldn't rule it out. Tepig started on all fours and evolved into a bipedal sumo. Oshawott stood on two legs up until his final evolution. Mudkip went from being on four small legs, to walking on two, and then he went back on all fours, albeit he could still stand on two legs if I recall correctly from the anime. Point being, there's very much a possibility he could turn out like that. Again, I don't disagree with you. He looks like he's going to be a bipedal-type Pokémon as he evolves, and if he ends up as a Water/Fighting like this "leak" says, then even more so.

I would like to see some confirmation of this. It's all plausible, of course, but something about it makes me doubtful. Maybe I'm just suspicious in general, but getting fully evolved starters with Dark/Fighting/Psychic secondary types just like everyone's always wanted seems too coincidental.

fffire24 said:

That's an odd translation. Anyone know why?

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shi tetsu (私鉄 or してつ) means private railway. Probably just a homonym if it's accurate. It's the 'tetsu' part which is important since it means 'steel'

I have my doubts. I also think it´s way too early to reveal all these things. They could reveal the generic bird alongside some other Pokémon though. I wouldn´t mind if the typings were real...I just hope they don´t mess up Chespin too much.

NO PLEASE NO. Please be fake. PLEEEEAAAAAASEEEE!!!!!!!

Although, if this is real, then I guess some people will like it, and it'll be okay.

My one concern is that people will pretend that Dark/Fighting/Psychic is a type triangle, to counteract Water/Fire/Grass. I loathe that everybody has it engraved that Dark/Psychic/Fighting is a type triangle. IT'S NOT. Do you like Dark/Fighting/Psychic? Do you want starters to be these types? That's okay, and I respect that, that's your opinion. What really peeves, me, though, is when people go around allegedly boasting that Dark/Fighting/Psychic is a type triangle, when it isn't, BECAUSE DARK IS IMMUNE TO PSYCHIC, PEOPLE.

There are other legitimate type triangles, other than Grass/Water/Fire. Rock/Flying/Fighting and Ice/Flying/Fighting are some examples.

jellotime91 said:

It's still perfectly balanced. You just don't use Psychic attacks against a Dark type, and you won't need to. First of all, your rival won't choose grass if you choose fire. Second, even if you're fighitng someone with the Grass / Dark final, you'd use your Fire moves. You wouldn't use your Fire moves against the water type, would you? No, you'd use your Psychic moves. Just the same, you wouldn't use your Psychic moves against a Dark type, you use the Fire moves.

Anywhoozle, I really hope this is true, and I actually think the trailer supports it. Their moves look like Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.

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That's completely irrelevant! There's a difference between ignoring type triangles, and pretending they're fair. Just because you have some other moves to fight back with, that doesn't change the fact that one starter has an unfair obtrusive advantage over the other two.

Although, on the plus side, I know that you've been wanting Dark/Psychic/Fighting for a while now, so if this turns out to be true, you (and a couple other people, apparently) will be really pleased with the starters, I bet! So, Gamefreak would still be succeeding, because the majority of the fans don't care about the slight unfairness, from the vibe I'm getting, and will warm up to the starter's evolutions quite quickly.

Which is good, don't you think? There's no pleasing everybody, so if this turns out to be one of those generations where my personal tastes aren't pleased, I'll just wait until the next generation.

Scarf said:

I would like to see some confirmation of this. It's all plausible, of course, but something about it makes me doubtful. Maybe I'm just suspicious in general, but getting fully evolved starters with Dark/Fighting/Psychic secondary types just like everyone's always wanted seems too coincidental.

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I agree, the fact that the typings are exactly what people predicted and wanted makes it all seem much more suspicious.

Who cares if it isn't a type triangle -_- The bottom line is, it allows Chespin to have a shot against Fennekin, and so on and so on. So Feenkin can't damage Chespin with its Psychic attacks, oh well. Not like Fennekin's a Fire-type or anything.

Personally, I'd be very happy if these leaks were true, but as others have said, the chances aren't really likely considering the source. But, then again, stranger things have happened.

tente2 said:

Ice/Flying/Fighting

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... You do realize that's a worse triangle than fighting/psychic/dark, right? Fighting doesn't resist ice, and ice doesn't resist flying.

And seriously, people are blowing the immunity thing way out of proportion, especially give that it's only being used for secondary types. Chespin's evolution having an immunity rather than a resistance to a move Fennekin's evo wouldn't even be using due to much better options is barely "obtrusive". Besides, if they're really reworking the type chart to accommodate new types like some other rumors said, they could easily fix this teeny little problem and use the starters to show it off.

A re-worked type chart would be nice.

Personally, I'd like to see Bugs and Poison-types to be buffed, either with more resistances, or advantages. Also, I'd really like the whole Psychic immunity thing to be done away with. I never really understood the logic behind it and, frankly, it seems wasteful that Dark types have an immunity to Psychic when it could simply have a resistance and possibly add a new resistance to compensate for it.

tente2 said:

That's completely irrelevant! There's a difference between ignoring type triangles, and pretending they're fair. Just because you have some other moves to fight back with, that doesn't change the fact that one starter has an unfair obtrusive advantage over the other two.

Although, on the plus side, I know that you've been wanting Dark/Psychic/Fighting for a while now, so if this turns out to be true, you (and a couple other people, apparently) will be really pleased with the starters, I bet! So, Gamefreak would still be succeeding, because the majority of the fans don't care about the slight unfairness, from the vibe I'm getting, and will warm up to the starter's evolutions quite quickly.

Which is good, don't you think? There's no pleasing everybody, so if this turns out to be one of those generations where my personal tastes aren't pleased, I'll just wait until the next generation.

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Starters have always been a little unbalanced. Squirtle can learn Ice-type moves and seriously **** up Bulbasaur. IMO there has never been a perfectly balanced trio. Psychic/Dark/Fighting would be the most balanced we've ever had.

And @RedWing that's exactly my point! :) It gives each one an advantage over the other! It doesn't matter if it's perfect. And I mean really, we're going to have flying/rock/fighting as secondary types? I would never pick a rock-type starter, ever.

I actually would be ok with all of that. I'd still grab Fennekin over the other two, awesome typings aside.

Assuming this is real. D: