The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club]

JimJams said:

Ok fine, I'll join. :P

I'm transgender, panromantic and demisexual.

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Demisexual is a new word for me, though the concept isn't. Gonna have to update my vocabulary.

In other news, the some people in the world are still getting things wrong. At an HIV/AIDS conference India's health minister called homosexuality a 'disease' from the West. Read here or here.

Hmm, I had never heard of demisexual either. Reading that, it describes one of my friends pretty well.

/forward link

Scarf said:

Demisexual is a new word for me, though the concept isn't. Gonna have to update my vocabulary.

In other news, the some people in the world are still getting things wrong. At an HIV/AIDS conference India's health minister called homosexuality a 'disease' from the West. Read here or here.

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Wtf is this? I don't even.

I feel so proud of being an Indian right now.

What's funny is that I didn't know about this until I read the article!

In regards to the previous question, while it'd be an easy way to escape torment/make life easier...I like being who I am. :)

JimJams included links to definitions of the meanings of the words. :P

Kiyoshi the Polar Bear said:

WOAH, PULLING OUT THE VOCABULARY GUNS.

Hm, you've actually very much educated me right there. I didn't even know there was a conterpart to pansexual.

Well it's nice to have you!

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Cool! xD Thanks.

I've been on AVEN a lot for the last..like two years. So I've gotten used to everyone using all kinds of words you rarely see anywhere else. :v So I think I'll be doing a lot of educating just talking about stuff here. XD

This club is still alive! o:

Everyone feel free to welcome Erik Destler as a new Co-Owner, as he was the creator of the social group!

Thanks to Alternative for updating the thread while I was gone.

And I have some news-

Gay Headlines (July 6th, 2011)​

Landorus said:

• N.Y. town clerk: I won't sign gay wedding license

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"If there's any possible way to not do it legally, then yes, I would not want to put my name on any of those certificates or papers," MacEwen told POLITICO. "That's their life, they can do it, but I don't feel I should be forced into something that's against my morals and my God."
But... It's her JOB. Her Morals and God have NOTHING to do with her Job (unless she was a nun). Just saying...

Landorus said:

This club is still alive! o:

Everyone feel free to welcome Erik Destler as a new Co-Owner, as he was the creator of the social group!

Thanks to Abnegation for updating the thread while I was gone.

And I have some news-

Gay Headlines (July 6th, 2011)​

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• N.Y. town clerk: I won't sign gay wedding license
• India's Health Minister Calls Homosexuality 'Unnatural'
• FBI Invited Controversial Church To Talk To Agents
• Raelians aim to reclaim swastika
• Trial to begin in slaying of gay middle school student Larry King

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1. Alternative updated the thread, not Abnegation :P

2. Welcome to co-ownership, Erik!

Larry King?

Here in my state, a bill has passed the Legislature that would allow for LGBT issues to be taught in public schools.

Here is the bill:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_48&sess=CUR&house=B&author=alquist

Here is a site that supports the bill:
http://www.eqca.org/site/pp.asp?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=6451639

Here is a site that opposed the bill:
http://www.pacificjustice.org/news/...e-lgbt-indoctrination-elementary-age-students

My comments:
I support the idea of this bill, but I oppose this specific bill on a technicality. There is no opt-out provision for parents who do not wish for their students to be exposed to homosexual topics.

Thoughts? Discuss.

FreakyLocz14 said:

My comments:
I support the idea of this bill, but I oppose this specific bill on a technicality. There is no opt-out provision for parents who do not wish for their students to be exposed to homosexual topics.

Thoughts? Discuss.

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It's more important to have this included in education than it is to protect the squeamish feelings of some parents. Sorry parents, but you don't get to shelter your kids from the real world just because you have a problem with gay people.

It's not like 'homosexual topics' is going to include anything other than references to Harvey Milk and other figures. It's really necessary to include queer people in any lengthy discussion of civil rights and social issues in general. The part that keeps out discriminatory language is especially important.

Scarf said:

It's more important to have this included in education than it is to protect the squeamish feelings of some parents. Sorry parents, but you don't get to shelter your kids from the real world just because you have a problem with gay people.

It's not like 'homosexual topics' is going to include anything other than references to Harvey Milk and other figures. It's really necessary to include queer people in any lengthy discussion of civil rights and social issues in general. The part that keeps out discriminatory language is especially important.

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Giving parents control of their student's education is a very important thing to me. This will also have unintended consequences if a repeal of Proposition 8 is on the ballot in 2012. This is the exact reason that it passed in the first place.

The bill also doesn't spell out exactly what will be taught. That makes me uneasy with not having an opt-out provision. If it's just historical facts like the Harvey Milk story, that's fine. If it presses opinions and attitudes towards homosexuality on students, that's wrong.

If it presses tolerance and understanding ,that's good.

Parents homeschooling children or opting them out of things that might actually be good is most certainly not a good thing. The same tends to go for absolutely vital topics like evolution; opting out of important lessons based on the parents' own ignorance or in this case bigotry, will only create more ignorance and bigotry and will do no one any kind of good. It will only hold society back.

JimJams said:

If it presses tolerance and understanding ,that's good.

Parents homeschooling children or opting them out of things that might actually be good is most certainly not a good thing. The same tends to go for absolutely vital topics like evolution; opting out of important lessons based on the parents' own ignorance or in this case bigotry, will only create more ignorance and bigotry and will do no one any kind of good. It will only hold society back.

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Now wait just one minute. You wouldn't like these so-called bigots pressing their values on you and your children because you don't like them. Likewise, we have no right to press our values on them and their children. When you defend the liberty to hold your own values and to have your children raised with those values, you need to protect it across the board. We set a dangerous precedent when we allow the government to pick and choose what values are worth teaching. That's not the government's job, imo. The government's job is to teach children academics, not to instill social values in them. If schools want to have these lessons as electives, I'm fine with that. In California, the large majority of people are tolerant of homosexuality to some extent, anyway.

Unlike, say, creationism, gay acceptance is important and will, hopefully take down aggression toward people who don't meet students' idea of normal or acceptable. It is vital to the psychological well-being of everyone, not something like a denial of scientific evidence for the preservation of religious belief or teaching that (ethic group, sexual orientation etc.) is unacceptable or bad.

FreakyLocz14 said:

If it presses opinions and attitudes towards homosexuality on students, that's wrong.

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Attitudes like, say, it's wrong to bully someone for being gay? I mean, I know you hate gay bashing as much as I do. I just don't get why you wouldn't want help in schools - where a lot of this happens - to help stop it. That's how I'm seeing this. I don't see how it is anything other than an attempt to add more tolerance to schools. So we're obviously seeing different things.