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Old July 27th, 2007, 01:55 AM
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This is unoficial you retards, and it's not newb talk, your a newb in our thread so here's how it goes, Vainz asks for a certain kind of pokemon and you tell him which one you think is the best. we aren't doing it your way seeing as how this isn't your thread.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 05:42 PM
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That list is a joke, Cloyster is better than Shuckle in the wall departement. Togekiss and Espeon are Sp. Sweepers. Umbreon's a wall. You can bend a lot of pokemon into filling a lot of rolles.

Next time you try an "own" everyone on this thread that worked tireslly trying to put together the best TEAM, with MOVESETS, EV'S and NATURES. Put some thought into it, before posting a list with a fraction of possible pokemon. If you want to give your OPINION, we'll (more they) will gladly except you.

This thread needed to be revived anyways.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 05:51 PM
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Mr. City said it perfectly. Paranoia did it, yet he apologized. Don't come on this thread calling us newbs with your "saving grace" list. You're breaking the rules of this thread, and we won't have it. Contribute to the disscusion in a reasonable way, or leave. I've seen you in other threads, and you speak as if you know everything, even if you're the one asking for help.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 07:10 PM
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I have found out that tangrowths may not be as good walls as I thought but mine did take out a snorlax and the other day it took out a gallade and a swampert.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 08:06 AM
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If we are going to suggest Tangrowth Id like to bring back Ludicolo. He is a way better Leecher then Tangrowth. Resistant to common elements such as Water, Steel and Ground. Not weak to Fire and the Elcetric elements. In fact all you have to do is worry about the Flying types as Poison and Bug moves arent so common. (The latter is showing up a bit more in U-Turn.)

For those who think they can just post a list and say owned you really dont see the freakin purpose of this thread. Yeah most of us know the OU Pokemon in the metagame. What we are trying to do is take six of them and make them into a team where they compliment each other and provide optimized versatility. So read most of the thread first before you post something for mere post count.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:32 AM
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Actually, I've seen a lot of sludge bomb gengars recently and you still have to worry about aerial ace salamences and bugg buzz yanmegas. Plus a blissey pretty much dominates a ludicolo, and I don't know why you guys don't want seismic toss blissey, I could easily hatch the right nature and such for you guys if you can't get ahold of one. I have beaten all of the battle places on pokemon emerald I just don't breed for aromatherapy but yeah, I think you should consider a blissey, tangrowth team. My tangrowth took a critical hit from a swords danced(only one)garchomp. But then it died from a burn. I am just throwing suggestions out for everyone to look at.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 12:58 AM
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Did we decide on a wall yet?
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:37 AM
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Walls:
Uxie
Tangrowth
Probopass
Dusknoir
Cresselia
Rhyperior
Shuckle
Regis
Glaceon
Claydol

*most common UU walls, well most are UU. I missed some though.

Lol Probopass is a Special Attacker
I suggest Bastiodon for a wall.

Bastiodon@Enigma Berry
Nature: Bold/Calm
EVs: Max HP with split remaining in defenses.

Metal Burst
Taunt
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Toxic

Bastiodon@Enigma Berry
Nature: Calm/Bold
EVs: Ditto

Swagger
Toxic
Block
Metal Burst

I'd use first one
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:53 AM
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Could we replace swagger with something else?
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Old July 29th, 2007, 06:03 AM
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We agreed no legends. Not cause their bad, we just don't want em.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 06:22 AM
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Could we replace swagger with something else?
Swagger is great with Block, Bastiodon's high defense can shield from the attack boost, I say not really.

I know no legends but, Cresselia's HP and defensive stats make me giggle.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 08:27 AM
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Sorry i havent been posting guys. I have been getting back home from gov school, so now that I am home, I should be able to post more. I would like to start by thanking all of you for defending our thread that way. That person had no right to do what he did, and it looks as if he is gone. It is not going to be easy picking a wall, but I will stand by my choice to not accept legendaries, because i am a true gamer who thinks all legends are uber. If Cresselia was not legendary, she would probably be the next wall on our team, but, she is legendary.

Here are some of the Walls you guys have been talking about:

Tangrowth
Blissey
Dusknoir
Rypherior
Umbreon
Bastiodon

There are of course more, but i thhink these are the main choices we have to pick from. We can only have one of these. I pretty sure we all agree to keep Milotic, so i am assuming that we can only have one more. All of these have advantages and disadvantages. We have to think how the pokemon will fit in with the rest of our team. I am going to ask you guys to say which one you want. I am going to stick with my good friend Dusknoir. If we see that all of you want pretty much the same pokemon, then we will choose that one. Make sure to pick the one you want based on how it will help the rest of our team.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 08:36 AM
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I pick Blissey, because, like you said, this isn't the most original team, it's the best one we can think of, and Blissey is the original.I also don't trust anything with low HP, but I think with Blissey, that became a little extreme. I didn't pick Blissey because of the HP, I picked her because of the help she could do to any team.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 09:12 AM
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Well I am just throwing the idea out there but since everyone is always using the same blissey I though we should try a new one, this is mine that I just got to try:

Blissey@leftovers
bold 252 defense 252 hp
reflect/light screen
softboiled
seismic toss/ice beam/thunderbolt
aromatherapy/calm mind

This one requires more set up but is more durable
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Old July 29th, 2007, 09:21 AM
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Hmm, I like it. with Light screen and max calm minds, Blissey will be impenetrable to anything. (Even Focus Blast)
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Old July 29th, 2007, 12:36 PM
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The only problem is a switch to gallade or something will completely ruin the calm mind set up but it is pretty powerful with a bunch of calm minds and maybe if you had calm mind you wouldn't need light screen so that since you already have exceptional special defense go with reflect and then calm mind so that even a physical pokemon would have trouble taking you down.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 01:01 PM
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Blissey @ Leftovers -- Bold
156 HP/252 Def/104 SAttk
Reflect/Softboiled/Thunderbolt
Reflect/Softboiled/Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
Ice Beam

CMBliss is amazing. I'm toying with a modified Psych Up set for other CMers, it can just switch in and go (y halo thar Manaphy). Works best in Ubers, where everything is setting up, but I've used it in OU. Alternatively, you could combine Thunderbolt and Calm Mind into Charge Beam, freeing up a moveslot for Reflect or Aromatherapy.

Blissey @ Leftovers -- Bold
252 HP/252 Def/6 SAttk
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Counter
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Seismic Toss

Massive HP + low defense. You can't OHKO a Blissey unboosted, and you will die when it Counters.

Oh, I miss the days when Blissey got Curse. That was amazing...
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I don't care about which wall, but I hate the ones with multiple (and common) 4x weaknesses... those being Bastiodon (Fighting/Ground weakness) and Rhyperior (Water/Grass weakness)
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Old July 29th, 2007, 04:12 PM
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But the thing about those two is bastiodon has extremely high defenses and rhyperior has the ability to tank.
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Don't forget Rhyperior's awsome ability, making super effective hits 2.66 effective, very handy indeed.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:02 PM
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Well I personally find a moonlight Umbreon, to be very effective and serves its purpose very well. Umbreon is what originally brought this team down, we could use it for the very opposite.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:19 PM
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Ah, Mr. May, welcome back! I hear good things on Leafeon, also serving as a Swords Dance passer.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:46 PM
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Thanks Sims, probabley won't be back on tomorrow, being my birthday and all.

If my memory serves me correct, her stats serve the purpose and her movepool isn't bad eather. To many people run Ice Fang/ice beam, Fire Fang/Flamethrower and Aerial ace, its so unfair to grass types.

On the topic of Eveelutions, Vaporeon lines up with Milotic pretty well, in a Sp. Def, Hp switch off.

Relicanth, has good Hp and Defense too, i'm kinda shocked, I'm going to check its movepool out.

As much as I think about it Blissey's starting to grow on me, I guess they'res a reason why so many people use her.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 05:59 PM
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Old July 29th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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Glaceon serves as a wall and a great Special Attacker too, horrible HP... again.

Slaking is a doable physical tank. I say yes to Rhyperior, though it is UU. Gliscor is an option for a physical wall.

Steelix along with it, Cloyster,Aggron, and Torkoal are all great choices for physical walls.

Torkoal works as a Rapid Spinner. Gyro Ball is amazing on Torkoal. Iron Defense to boost that Defense and Amnesia to raise Special Defense.

Torkoal@Enigma
Trait: White Smoke
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 SP. DEF/ 80 DEF/ 172 ATK

Overheat
Gyro Ball
Curse
Rapid Spin/WoW/EQ

Aggron@Enigma
Trait: Sturdy
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 SP. DEF/ 252 HP/ 4 DEF

Iron Head
Stone Edge
Rest
Thunder Wave/Avalanche

Cloyster@Enigma
Trait: Shell Armor
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK

Toxic Spikes
Surf
Rapid Spin
Barrier/Explosion

Probopass@Enigma
Trait: Magnet Pull
Nature: Bold/Calm
EVs: 252 HP/ split in defenses

Block
Toxic
Swagger
filler

or

Toxic
Earth Power
Rest
Flash Cannon/Thunder Bolt/HP Rock

Any of these babys work well with Blissey.

Special Walls-Definitely Blissey/Snorlax.

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