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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:06 AM
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I dont know what is the status of that, but about time-based events, why not to use the time played clock? like, instead of a couple of days in GSC(with the internal clock), why not ten hours of gameplay instead (for the bug-catching, obviously less for kurt) ? as i said before, im no hacker, thus i dont even know if its possible, but if it is, i think it would be a nice solution.

another bug: i deleted the first trainers you can register from my phone card (a youngster and a bug catcher) and the added the blackbelt on route 45. i (stupidly) decided to call him right away from the phone booth to the left. when i chose his entry, the screen went black and the game froze.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:03 AM
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Hey Mr. Zel!( or don't know what to tell)Your Shiny Gold is fantastic!But I've addicted to GBA & PC games.So how do I load the save file of Shiny Gold X beta 3.5?Is Lugia event live now and if it is,where is the Lugia?And what should I do when the new beta has come out?I am only a idiotic beginner.


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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:02 PM
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I dont know what is the status of that, but about time-based events, why not to use the time played clock? like, instead of a couple of days in GSC(with the internal clock), why not ten hours of gameplay instead (for the bug-catching, obviously less for kurt) ? as i said before, im no hacker, thus i dont even know if its possible, but if it is, i think it would be a nice solution.

another bug: i deleted the first trainers you can register from my phone card (a youngster and a bug catcher) and the added the blackbelt on route 45. i (stupidly) decided to call him right away from the phone booth to the left. when i chose his entry, the screen went black and the game froze.
1:I think bug catching thing should be possible and if you can only do it 2 times in sg, that's a letdown.

2: It's just an impossible bug. In the original they said "go talk to him".

Zel,
I think the chances of you being able to do the day night thing is very VERY slim unless you link it to gameplay hours...
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:05 PM
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Zel,
I think the chances of you being able to do the day night thing is very VERY slim unless you link it to gameplay hours...
Not necessarily true, if he had it on a timer, it could theoretically work.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:15 PM
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Not necessarily true, if he had it on a timer, it could theoretically work.
Do you mean like script it so that it sets off at a random time. But if that happened it would interfere with events big-time... Owch!

Thanks for making Jirachi sooo hard to find. I think that makes players focus on every part of the game. I hope you make everything super tricky to find on the new region.

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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:30 PM
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1:I think bug catching thing should be possible and if you can only do it 2 times in sg, that's a letdown.
I think the chances of you being able to do the day night thing is very VERY slim unless you link it to gameplay hours...
if Zel finally puts day/night, it could be "once a day". And each day should be like... 4 hours of gameplay: 2 hours of morning, 2 hours of night. (consider you'll clear the game in few time)

Then somewhere put a clock that shows the gameplay time x12 modulo 24h (simple math that shouldn't be hard with a bit ASM, the hardcode thing is where to stick it in).
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:55 PM
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Do you mean like script it so that it sets off at a random time. But if that happened it would interfere with events big-time... Owch!
That would never happen, as all this time, ZEL has been using specials which requires you to walk some amount of steps. You see Fire Red has no time so walking steps are used.


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if Zel finally puts day/night, it could be "once a day". And each day should be like... 4 hours of gameplay: 2 hours of morning, 2 hours of night. (consider you'll clear the game in few time)

Then somewhere put a clock that shows the gameplay time x12 modulo 24h (simple math that shouldn't be hard with a bit ASM, the hardcode thing is where to stick it in).
Or you can implement a very first internal Battery on Fire Red itself.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:05 PM
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Or you can implement a very first internal Battery on Fire Red itself.
I think that would be more challenging (read: hard).
Unless it's copied from ruby
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:10 PM
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I think that would be more challenging (read: hard).
Unless it's copied from ruby
would'nt it be easier just to hack ruby to look like firered?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:39 PM
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would'nt it be easier just to hack ruby to look like firered?
Sure, Zel should start over again and redo everything in a game with lame graphics.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 06:28 PM
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Will we be able to re battle red in beta 6?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 07:28 PM
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Zel,
I think the chances of you being able to do the day night thing is very VERY slim unless you link it to gameplay hours...
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Not necessarily true, if he had it on a timer, it could theoretically work.
Not like day/night is something that I'm frenetically looking for, I prefer to first finish the game, and then we could discuss of stuff to add to it. From the talks we had with Mastermind, the first idea is to use Gameplay time, because there isnt any kind of timer, with the weird exception of the one used in the Battle Tower events (and I doubt that would be useful for anything, but, who knows?)

Well, I dont know. Perhaps one of these days I'll start discussing about what we could do with M_X. For now my focus is in other stuff.

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Will we be able to re battle red in beta 6?
Just like in the original, you'll be able to, but to have a rematch you'll first need to defeat the E4 (doesnt apply for the first battle with Red)

I'm kinda close to finish the longest script ever, I just need to do a bunch of compares, setmaptiles and it'll be finally over. It'll depend on how much time I can dedicate to hacking, but I hope to finish it this weekend. Probably tomorrow I'll talk about the whole event, and then the video will be posted to clarify how the system works.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 07:52 PM
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Sure, Zel should start over again and redo everything in a game with lame graphics.
yeah, I wasn't saying to have zel start over just to get time in the game. but if he could change firered graphics its pretty safe to assume that he can change the graphics in firered

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That is a bad idea, in oh so many ways.
A note to everyone, just let this poor guy's comment alone, he doesn't know what he's talking about...
I do know what I'm talking about and last time I checked I was a pretty rich....
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Old May 16th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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longest script? wow, I wish you luck on that one, zel, and I know you can slip it through the game. :3
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Old May 17th, 2008, 01:17 AM
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I have found a few glitches.
In The pokemon center near union cave, i talked to the nurse- she healed my pokemon but then there were black flashes and the game froze.

thats all.

i love your hack, it is very nice.

(especially changing parts in advancemap...)
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Old May 17th, 2008, 02:59 AM
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The longest script? If there's one person that can do it it's Zel. Keep going dude. And oOkv9, were you using any gameshark codes?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 03:04 AM
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Old May 17th, 2008, 03:36 AM
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zel...
I battled Carlos, in the entrance of a cave which is Ice Path *currently defeating him*...
It was a challenging match, however, I noticed that Blastoise and Machoke had the move 'Double Team', which isn't listed in the pokemon's learnable moves... :\
Double Team is a move for fast POKéMON only, such as Pikachu and Furret... :\

I also checked their moves in serebii, which I fail to see Double team in either Blastoise and Machoke's learnable moves, either by leveling up, or through egg hatching (and since there's no TM Double Team, it's excluded)...

anyways, great job on Shiny Gold and wish ye the best of luck.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 04:00 AM
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zel...
I battled Carlos, in the entrance of a cave which is Ice Path *currently defeating him*...
It was a challenging match, however, I noticed that Blastoise and Machoke had the move 'Double Team', which isn't listed in the pokemon's learnable moves... :\
Double Team is a move for fast POKéMON only, such as Pikachu and Furret... :\

I also checked their moves in serebii, which I fail to see Double team in either Blastoise and Machoke's learnable moves, either by leveling up, or through egg hatching (and since there's no TM Double Team, it's excluded)...

anyways, great job on Shiny Gold and wish ye the best of luck.
well this IS a an gold remake, so it isnt a new thing: in the original Lnace had its 3 dragonites underleveled, knowing Barrier (illegal) and Aero knowing Rock Slide (another illegal)

about the bug i stated its NOT impossible: yes it should appear "go talk to him" but instead the game just freezes black

personally i dont think day/night is a good idea, only if it had night effects (eg. cities and routes at night, goldenrod lightsposts shining, etc.), but still i think theres a lot of stuff more worth the time
but still, the gameplay clock would be great for the bug catching contest (okay, okay, you got me: i just want scythers!!! )
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:01 AM
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zel...
I battled Carlos, in the entrance of a cave which is Ice Path *currently defeating him*...
It was a challenging match, however, I noticed that Blastoise and Machoke had the move 'Double Team', which isn't listed in the pokemon's learnable moves... :\
Double Team is a move for fast POKéMON only, such as Pikachu and Furret... :\

I also checked their moves in serebii, which I fail to see Double team in either Blastoise and Machoke's learnable moves, either by leveling up, or through egg hatching (and since there's no TM Double Team, it's excluded)...

anyways, great job on Shiny Gold and wish ye the best of luck. :)
TM double team is TM 32, it has been like this since RBY =p
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:37 AM
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Where do you find squirtle and torchic in this hack?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:43 AM
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Where do you find squirtle and torchic in this hack?
You won't find both till late in the game. Squirtle is in the water east of New Bark Town and Torchic is in a hidden cave somewhere in Kanto I heard (i think in the south-east routes where you get the Super Rod)
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Old May 17th, 2008, 08:48 AM
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small problem, I forgot to change the save type, so when I beat the elite 4 i can't go to Kanto or anything, the game just restarts. any way to fix it?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 08:58 AM
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Stop asking people.

delete save states, of any kind... put flash type 128k..

then play and start over.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 09:43 AM
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Longest script eh, I think I have a hinch what it's for...
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