Help on a Good PKMN with Great HP

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Originally Posted by AceTrainerNicole

Blisseys HP can get as high as about 800. So I use it.

Ha, no. 714 is the highest, but no one does that anymore.

Originally Posted by Raikazu

So yeah. :/

Yes, Aggron is crap. That's why it got placed in the UU environment. 180 Defense is good, but its typing sucks like hell. And with all the Close Combats/Earthquake running around, Aggron can't physically wall for its life.

.....what?

No, it isn't.

Yes, some people these days. <<;

Really, get some decent knowledge of the metagame beforehand rather than just throwing out faulty logic. 'kay?

Yes, King Tyranitar, I know this is Generation III. I just wanted to see how many "Y3AH!!! H1PP0WD0N R0X!!!1!!" I would get. xD; -bows down to KT- He is the king. >>;

LOL HIPPOWDON. He can't wall, obviously Harden Kakuna. =]

Raikazu rofl.

[.emerald]

Yes, Aggron is crap. That's why it got placed in the UU environment. 180 Defense is good, but its typing sucks like hell. And with all the Close Combats/Earthquake running around, Aggron can't physically wall for its life.

i do agree aggron has 2 ultra eff., weak sp. def but definitely NOT CRAP.
(use it in the right way..., you will see what i mean.)

.....what?
duh... wobbuffet uses mirror coat on a dark pokemon that used a dark attack on him, no damage....

No, it isn't.

yes it is,check Psypoke.com
Other Optional Sets
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 188 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
naughty Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Bug]

Yes, some people these days. <<;
really, "some" people these days.

Really, get some decent knowledge of the metagame beforehand rather than just throwing out faulty logic. 'kay?
"faulty knowledge"?????
i don't think you know how to uses that term...

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Listen dude. Just because something has high Defense doesn't mean it's a good Pokemon. If that was the case, Shuckle would be uber. Aggron has horrible typing for a wall and with it's low speed and tremendous amount of glaring weakneses, it can't even be used as a sweeper. Crap.

Tyranitar cannot be a wall in Gen 3. No SpD boost from the Sandstorm means it's a mediocre tank.

[Chérii]

Ahem. No one uses Psypokes for competetive advice anymore. <_<

And I do hope you realize that Adamant is (+Attack, -Sp.Atk), not Naughty. Naughty is (+Attack, -Sp.Def), which is something you wouldn't want to do. So, yeah. Psypokes isn't always right, you know, not even Serebii is. They're just some people behind a computer, except they have a website. >>;

With that said, I hardly doubt you even know how to use Aggron in the right way if you go to Psypokes for competetive advice. Its typing is terrible. So many other Pokemon have great defenses but the same typing. Because of their typing, they got bumped down to UU, like Probopass and Bastiodon. Close Combat and Earthquake are the most common physical moves, and you can't possibly wall physically if you have a denting x4 weakness to the most common types. 180 Defense is high, but it can only take so much. 70 HP isn't doing it any good either.

And yes, you're throwing out false logic and advice. Learn the metagame first, please. ;D

Edit: o daer i wuz beatin bye mai kingggg i iz so sowwy

[.emerald]

i know serebii or psypoke isn't that all right, it depends on your desision....
plus EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION.

ive seen & personally tried to raise a t-tar with these natures & ive seen it work pretty well....

maybe you just don't have the same choice or decision about these things.BUT HEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT AIN'T WE??

and i know more than you think....

[El Gofre]

Originally Posted by LOYALemerald

plus EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION.

I agree with you there, but not in the context. A pokemon that has tried and failed in competetive enviroments is crap, that isnt open to opinion. Hardly any of your input has been relevant, and if psypokes is your source of information i can't say I'm suprised.

[.emerald]

Originally Posted by Gofre

I agree with you there, but not in the context. A pokemon that has tried and failed in competetive enviroments is crap, that isnt open to opinion. Hardly any of your input has been relevant, and if psypokes is your source of information i can't say I'm suprised.

we all have our differences, i can understand that i can make mistakes,nobody is perfect.
im not saying psypoke is my source,i just wanted to clarify that all of those aGRRON INFO I READ CAME FROM PSYPOKE.

ive seen & personally raised an aggron with those natures, as for me,well, its ok.
i know aggron isn't perfect with 2 ultra eff., weak sp. def & speed
but, ive battled with aggron & it hasn't failed me once, to me aggron IS DEFINITELY NOT CRAP. its a pretty decent pokemon.(MY OPINION, NO ONE CAN CONTRADICT IT.)

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Everyone has their own opinions? Yes, but some of those opinions may be crap. In this case; yours.

Aggron is a horrible wall in OU. Sure, in UU it's decent, but it's typing is horrible. 4x weak to fighting is a very unpreferable trait to have for a wall. 4x to Ground attacks is also a very bad thing for a wall to posses.

In conclusion?

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[Chérii]

Stop with this "opinion stuff", sheesh. ._.
I mean, if someone said Caterpie rocks in competetive in their own opinion, I'm pretty sure we'd have a reason to contradict it. Aggron gets outclassed by a lot of other walls. Rock and/or Steel types can't wall well, which is why Rhyperior and Regirock got bumped down to BL.

'kay, so with my Third Generation suggestions... I present...

Claydol - Pretty decent wall before the Fourth Generation(where it got bumped down two tiers). It can wall both physically and specially. It may not have the right HP stat, but it did have Cosmic Power.

Donphan - Fantastic Offense and Defense in the physicals. It's HP stat is pretty decent too. It also has Rapid Spin, which is a definite plus.

Metagross - Fantastic Offense and Defense again. Also with only two weaknesses, but unfortunately weak to Ground.

Skarmory - Lacks HP, but has wonderful Defense with access to Spikeshuffling and such.

Suicune - So much to say about this Pokemon, but lets just leave it at great defenses and so-so offensives, but has access to Calm Mind to deal damage.

Edit: King Tyranitar... That post was a bit... disturbing... but accurate nonetheless. :D

[El Gofre]

Originally Posted by LOYALemerald

we all have our differences, i can understand that i can make mistakes,nobody is perfect.
im not saying psypoke is my source,i just wanted to clarify that all of those aGRRON INFO I READ CAME FROM PSYPOKE.

ive seen & personally raised an aggron with those natures, as for me,well, its ok.
i know aggron isn't perfect with 2 ultra eff., weak sp. def & speed
but, ive battled with aggron & it hasn't failed me once, to me aggron IS DEFINITELY NOT CRAP. its a pretty decent pokemon.(MY OPINION, NO ONE CAN CONTRADICT IT.)

Aggron may not have failed you but again, look at it in context. Who do you play? Friends who don't EV train? Gym leaders? As already said, aggron cannot survive in a competant competetive enviroment, not open to opinion.

[Marshmallow]

Try a Snorlax. They have very high HP and are pretty good in battle if you know how to use them

[.emerald]

sure,sure say aggron is crap(like the picture...)im done with this conv. i don't like to flame people.nor to let them get booted just for flaming...
i agree aggron isn't that good a wall, but i trust it.

sure its your opinion that is CRAP. but it isn't mine..... no sir....

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Originally Posted by LOYALemerald

sure,sure say aggron is crap(like the picture...)im done with this conv. i don't like to flame people.nor to let them get booted just for flaming...
i agree aggron isn't that good a wall, but i trust it.

sure its your opinion that is CRAP. but it isn't mine..... no sir....

So you trust a wall that is not good? You'll be losing a lot of competative Pokemon matches then.

[ladylivereth]

slaking is a good choice too

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Originally Posted by ladylivereth

slaking is a good choice too

Slaking cannot wall to save it's life. It has no resistances, one immunity, and a weakness that nearly every (good) team posseses. He also can only attack once every other turn.