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Old November 19th, 2008 (01:29 AM). Edited November 19th, 2008 by Azumi.
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Something I quite noticed... (Everyone should, it's an obvious fact.)

Whenever Musashi joins a contest, she sends out her Pokemon. Do the twerps actually realise that Candy Musalina AND Team Rocket have the same Pokemon? (Musashi sometimes borrows James' Pokemon.) This is so obvious, yet they don't find out until they do something bad, like catching the Pokemon-of-the-day and/or Pikachu, or their covers are blown off... And their outfits are so obvious. But no, the characters do not see through them.

Why can't they have someone that KNOWS who the heck they are, even in their disguises?

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Old November 19th, 2008 (03:06 AM).
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Team Rocket's disguises are simple PATHETIC and OBVIOUS. What's even more stupid is that no one even recognizes them. ............................ Weird and competely PATHETIC!!
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Old November 19th, 2008 (05:39 AM).
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Quote originally posted by SoraNoHana:
Whenever Musashi joins a contest, she sends out her Pokemon. Do the twerps actually realise that Candy Musalina AND Team Rocket have the same Pokemon?
If Jesselina was two people, it could just be a coincidence she has the smae Pokemon as Team Rocket. But since she's not two people........man, I agree, what's with the kids and the gulibleness? [is that a word?]

Quote originally posted by SoraNoHana:
Why can't they have someone that KNOWS who the heck they are, even in their disguises?
Maybe it's because if they did, then Team Rocket would have been out of the show a lot faster? They obviously can't think of better disguises so someone reconizing them would have just have gotten tiring....ironic, they already are.
And besides, apparently the writers NEED Team Rocket, 'cause I'm pretty sure they would have gotten kicked off years ago.
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Old November 19th, 2008 (08:30 AM).
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I have to agree with Charizard EX there, you could notice them from about a mile away that there so obvious!
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Old November 19th, 2008 (08:32 AM).
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They are obcvious, but hey it is a cartoon show, what do you expect? but speaking of team rocket Jessie...do you think she will actually win 5 ribbons to make it to the grand festival?
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Old November 19th, 2008 (09:39 AM).
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The gang always fall for the lame disguises. I was hoping after ten years of being stalked by TR, Ash would see through the disguises or be suspicious whenever they ask to borrow Pikachu for something. But no! He still falls for it. Also, shouldn't Pikachu recognize their scent after being snagged like a million times?
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Old November 19th, 2008 (10:04 AM).
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Yeah its pathetic but its aimed at younger people i suppose.
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Old November 19th, 2008 (11:45 AM).
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To start off, there are ofcourse more than one trainer in the world that owns a Seviper or a Carnivine for that matter...

BUt yeah, Team Rocket disguises are pathetic, DP004 tops them all. It's (suppose to be) for the comic relief I guess. Though, it's not like it is only limited to an anime like Pokemon.
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Old November 19th, 2008 (12:08 PM).
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I know you'd think that they would know by now that it's Team Rocket! Gosh those people are mental if they don't know that's Team Rocket!
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Are you trying to tell me that this is supposed to be an obvious disguise!? If I hadn't watched until the motto, I'd have thought it was a whole new pair of villians. I'm not surprised the twerps have been fooled over and over again for the past 10 years.
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Old November 19th, 2008 (01:19 PM).
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I tink my favourite disguise from from the original st. Anne episode, when james kept going "cooooooool!" he looked so camp, the song 'Gay Boyfriend' could have been written by Jessie about that moment...
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Old November 19th, 2008 (04:32 PM).
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Are you trying to tell me that this is supposed to be an obvious disguise!? If I hadn't watched until the motto, I'd have thought it was a whole new pair of villians. I'm not surprised the twerps have been fooled over and over again for the past 10 years.
You have got to be kidding me... Do you honestly think that this wasn't obvious?! The Scarlet R of their uniforms are exposed for goodness's sakes!!
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Old November 19th, 2008 (05:55 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Jorah:
Are you trying to tell me that this is supposed to be an obvious disguise!? If I hadn't watched until the motto, I'd have thought it was a whole new pair of villians. I'm not surprised the twerps have been fooled over and over again for the past 10 years.
You're being sarcastic, right?
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Old November 19th, 2008 (06:59 PM).
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It's classic Clark Kent Syndrome mixed in with the twerps being self-absorbed in what they need to be doing. Although, I don't think Brock has an excuse. Oh wait--he has no eyes, nevermind.


Quote originally posted by Quick_Kid:
They are obcvious, but hey it is a cartoon show, what do you expect? but speaking of team rocket Jessie...do you think she will actually win 5 ribbons to make it to the grand festival?
I wish she would but I doubt it... :-(
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Old November 19th, 2008 (09:34 PM).
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Jessie already got two ribbons prior to DP102, so...

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Are you trying to tell me that this is supposed to be an obvious disguise!? If I hadn't watched until the motto, I'd have thought it was a whole new pair of villians. I'm not surprised the twerps have been fooled over and over again for the past 10 years.
You're trying to be sarcastic.
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I do agree, after this long, they should be able to see right through Team Rocket.

But.. it's just part of the normal routine of the show...
Twerps doing whatever they're doing with the character of the day..
Team Rocket gets involved somehow wearing their disguises.
Capture Pikachu and put him in something shock proof.
Ash saves Pikachu and uses Thunderbolt.
"Looks like Team Rocket it blasting off again!"

If the writers stopped making them wear disguises, or if Ash and co. found them out right away, they'd probably eventually have to get rid of Team Rocket.
And I don't know about everyone else, but I don't think the show would be right without them.
They're the comic relief.
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Quote originally posted by Unown_:
To start off, there are ofcourse more than one trainer in the world that owns a Seviper or a Carnivine for that matter...

BUt yeah, Team Rocket disguises are pathetic, DP004 tops them all. It's (suppose to be) for the comic relief I guess. Though, it's not like it is only limited to an anime like Pokemon.
Thank you.

In the show's defense, it's supposed to be dramatic irony, since the audience immediates suspects, "oh, let's see how far they fool the kids." Off and on, I don't mind. However, whenever you do it far too many times, then it gets stale. Then, you go with the creativity of said disguises.

And I'll go with whatever Heidi said.
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Old November 20th, 2008 (01:46 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Heidi_Moose:
I do agree, after this long, they should be able to see right through Team Rocket.

But.. it's just part of the normal routine of the show...
Twerps doing whatever they're doing with the character of the day..
Team Rocket gets involved somehow wearing their disguises.
Capture Pikachu and put him in something shock proof.
Ash saves Pikachu and uses Thunderbolt.
"Looks like Team Rocket it blasting off again!"

If the writers stopped making them wear disguises, or if Ash and co. found them out right away, they'd probably eventually have to get rid of Team Rocket.
And I don't know about everyone else, but I don't think the show would be right without them.
They're the comic relief. :)
You know, There ARE other ways for them to try and trick Ash and Co. WITHOUT disguises (especially since the disguises are pretty flimsy anyways).

I mean, the writers could have just as easily have them do what they did in the first season (like plant booby traps.), and if they are disguised well enough, they would also catch them completely by surprise. And, assuming they didn't show TR laying the trap beforehand, maybe even catch the Audience Members by surprise as well. Also, as long as Team Rocket is perfectly disguised (as in, their features are barely recognizable, such as when Jessie disguised herself like a hindu traveless, or if they change their clothes, haircolor/style, have Meowth's features disguised as well, ect. ect.), then the main characters being fooled by them is all right.

I mean, sure they are comic relief, but the thing is, there isn't really any tension beforehand for the comic relief to be needed.

Also, dramatic irony usually involves characters meeting a character they haven't met yet, or at least, doesn't make their motives known first glance. however, JJM's disguises are something else entirely as they are recognizable to even a two year old with those disguises, and Ash and co. already met them, so their even being fooled by the disguises is a sad jab at their intelligence, thus resulting in the fanbase calling them stupid idiots.
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Quote originally posted by weedle_mchairybug:
Also, dramatic irony usually involves characters meeting a character they haven't met yet, or at least, doesn't make their motives known first glance. however, JJM's disguises are something else entirely as they are recognizable to even a two year old with those disguises, and Ash and co. already met them, so their even being fooled by the disguises is a sad jab at their intelligence, thus resulting in the fanbase calling them stupid idiots.
True. However, dramatic irony also means the audience may be aware of certain concepts that aren't known to the characters. That was my point, really. And, yes, I agree with your final sentence, as the fanbase loves to project, don't they?
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Old November 20th, 2008 (06:13 PM).
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The dumbest disguise yet would be the one where they just put their clothes inside out. DOne- the tweprs get fooled...

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What I don't understand is that sometimes they committ an act so soon after they show up in disguises that either they shouldn't have paid for the disguises at all or they should have kept up the costumes while the "twerps" still didn't know it was them. They're pretty OCD about their motto at this point.
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Maybe the twerps are randomness-intolerant. Team Rocket can get so random, they literally throw common sense down the Spider Drain. I mean, wow. I can't believe Jessilina is still an unblown cover. HELLO?
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Well, Jessalina is one of the few disguises which are actually 'good'. Basically saying that her hairstyle isn't the same, and she hasn't revealed herself. If that wasn't the case, then I'd agree.

And yep Jorah, expect to see those new villans from DP004 in the next league. Top bad they disappeared right when the house fell down.

About the whole disguse thing, as many people said, it should be obvious that they are TR by now. But, I agree with Charaxes that I like to watch these different disguises to see how far they get. And it provides for a bit of entertainment too.

Besides, nearly every anime in the world has this disguise thing so.......
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Quote originally posted by weedle_mchairybug:
You have got to be kidding me... Do you honestly think that this wasn't obvious?! The Scarlet R of their uniforms are exposed for goodness's sakes!!
But they're wearing green cloaks. Green! Pssh just because you thought it was Team Rocket doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us ~

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And yep Jorah, expect to see those new villans from DP004 in the next league. Top bad they disappeared right when the house fell down.
Indeed! One reason I can't wait for the series to move on is so we get to see these all new characters. Apparently, they like stealing Pokemon and have their very own motto! Oops, maybe I should've put that in spoiler tags
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