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Old January 22nd, 2009 (07:14 PM).
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Just out of curiousity, does the fic have to be Pokemon related, or can we submit non-Pokemon ones too?
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Old January 22nd, 2009 (07:37 PM).
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:\ 'tis Mystery Pokémon Theatre, after all, but check with Xanthine to be sure. :\
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Old January 22nd, 2009 (08:26 PM). Edited January 22nd, 2009 by JX Valentine.
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Quote originally posted by Ninja Caterpie:
Didn't I suggest something for italics from the actual story?

The Tyranitar stepped towards the kid. Oh shnitzels, I'm going to ddiiiiee! he thought, hoping it wasn't hungry.
What you were trying to suggest was essentially a problem because there was no way to differentiate between the story and the stage directions after awhile. For example, allow me to extract a sample from an MST I'm working on at the moment and do it the way you suggested.


"Oh, boy", said Pichu.

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


Note that in the above example, the italics are essentially reversed. What's italicized in the original work is stripped of italics, and what isn't is italicized. Also, note that even with the bold, what was originally italicized now blends in with the rest of the text. It would be the same effect if you did something like this:

"Oh, boy",

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

said Pichu.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity, [i]Eevee thought

Syntax: So am I.

for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!

Or this:

"Oh, boy",

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

said Pichu.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


However, if we change the font face the way Thesis did (regardless of where he got his idea), what you get is this:

"Oh, boy", said Pichu.

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


Note that by differentiating the font faces, you now have the option of changing the basic styles -- italics, bold, underline, whatever you want. The reason why is because now, the basic difference between the actual story and the witty comments are already made as clear as day with different fonts. Therefore, it's not possible to confuse the story's italics with the witty comments' italics, and you can easily code whatever the author originally intended, rather than strip away all formatting for the sake of making it clear you're still on the story.

Long story short, the only reason why I'm not going with your suggestion about reverse italics and nothing else is because it blends in with the witty commentary. And then, if I changed the font face and then did reverse italics, the font change itself would defeat the purpose of doing reverse italics in the first place. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Quote originally posted by EmeraldSky:
Just out of curiousity, does the fic have to be Pokemon related, or can we submit non-Pokemon ones too?
For now, we're only accepting Pokémon fic. It's actually because the crew and I are too lazy to compile a list of fandoms we do collectively know. If we don't, people could easily submit fic for something we know nothing about, which would result in us going "lol what's that? :D" and you responding with "that's canon, moron."

It's also to prevent the people in Other Writing from going, "What the eff are you doing?" Because I can't submit non-Pokémon fic to this forum, and the people in this forum are somehow less inclined to mark everything as serious business. Don't think I don't look in that poetry forum.

But when we're somewhat less lazy and terrified of the people in Other Writing, we might compile a list of all the fandoms we know to spread the lols.
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Old January 22nd, 2009 (11:22 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Xanthine:
What you were trying to suggest was essentially a problem because there was no way to differentiate between the story and the stage directions after awhile. For example, allow me to extract a sample from an MST I'm working on at the moment and do it the way you suggested.


"Oh, boy", said Pichu.

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


Note that in the above example, the italics are essentially reversed. What's italicized in the original work is stripped of italics, and what isn't is italicized. Also, note that even with the bold, what was originally italicized now blends in with the rest of the text. It would be the same effect if you did something like this:

"Oh, boy",

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

said Pichu.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity, [i]Eevee thought

Syntax: So am I.

for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!

Or this:

"Oh, boy",

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

said Pichu.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


However, if we change the font face the way Thesis did (regardless of where he got his idea), what you get is this:

"Oh, boy", said Pichu.

Xanthine: I'm going to say something witty here.

Oh, but I have a weakness for electricity,

Syntax: So am I.

Eevee thought for a second, before she took her fighting pose.

Andy: Me too!


Note that by differentiating the font faces, you now have the option of changing the basic styles -- italics, bold, underline, whatever you want. The reason why is because now, the basic difference between the actual story and the witty comments are already made as clear as day with different fonts. Therefore, it's not possible to confuse the story's italics with the witty comments' italics, and you can easily code whatever the author originally intended, rather than strip away all formatting for the sake of making it clear you're still on the story.

Long story short, the only reason why I'm not going with your suggestion about reverse italics and nothing else is because it blends in with the witty commentary. And then, if I changed the font face and then did reverse italics, the font change itself would defeat the purpose of doing reverse italics in the first place. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
That makes an awful lot of sense. :D The different font looks sweet, too. :D
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Old March 30th, 2009 (10:46 AM). Edited March 30th, 2009 by JX Valentine.
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Ladies and gents, after a long wait, I present to you episode two.

Also, while you can see the shiny, new font, there's a few things I'm still experimenting with. Think of these as the KTMA days of the show. Or something.

And yeah, alas, Astinus has decided not to be a riffer. So, instead, I've decided to make her a Mad. With her own Piplup army. Hurray?

In any case, a little commentary this time around because I figure it'd be cool to start that sort of thing:

On the positive side, this fic has an example of foreshadowing and, possibly, fridge brilliance (as in, that trope where you read through something and don't really pick up on a concept until it randomly hits you after the fact). Namely, An-chan dropped hints that...
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Adan was actually Ivysaur and vice-versa or that the character we think is Adan at first isn't actually Adan
...but the reader doesn't get that these clues are exactly that until a second read-through or a third. (I personally didn't really catch it until I went back over the jokes I had Syntax and Andy make during the proofreading stages.)

However, as the Pokémon joked, there's also a lot of exposition, and certain things that would normally be important are glossed over. If more time was spent on those kinds of things, this would actually be an example of foreshadowing done right.
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Old April 12th, 2009 (10:12 AM).
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As usual, HILARIOUS.

And you're right, the different-font thing works pretty well. I'm personally using it for any future MSTs I do. And KTMA or not, this is still funny as heck.
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Old May 15th, 2009 (08:44 PM).
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Sorry for the late response, but thanks. Glad to see it's working. =D

Also, I present episode three. I'm not sure why it took this long, but... uh... *flees*

A few changes to this one that you might notice:

1. Xanthine is now known as Jax. Specifically, the full name is Jax Valentine. Which is an assumed name apparently to make her sound badass. Whatever.

2. I'm now going by my personal capitalization rules: all pokémon names aren't capitalized unless they're the starts of sentences or actually the names of specific pokémon. Moves will still be capitalized, however.

3. Astinus is now serving as Jax's version of the Mads, so she's not presented through the Hexfield. Also, her Deep 13 is called Astinus Castle, an igloo somewhere in the Antarctic. The Higher Ups still exist but transmit through her.

Other than that, I don't think there's many cosmetic changes. Hopefully, this is the form we'll be using in the future.

Also, Scarlet Weather will be teaming up with me in the future, and supposedly, he's working on an episode. Welcome to the team, m'dear!
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Old May 21st, 2009 (05:19 PM). Edited May 22nd, 2009 by Scarlet Weather.
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Nice to be welcomed. xD

Anyway, went ahead and posted the episode I've been working on- "Mission Pokemon", by Gummy. This is probably the hardest fic I've ever MST'ed, in part because its biggest flaw is that it's pretty generic and doesn't do a huge amount to differentiate itself from other fanfics. Plus, doing the host segments at the beginning and end was a lot harder than I thought it would be.

Anyway, a few things...

1. I used two riffers of my own creation over Syntax and Andy in this fanfic- though I don't plan to use them in the future- because I'm still getting a feel for the personality of both of those characters. Any future MSTs I do, however, will star Andy and Syntax.

2. Scarlet is a highly intelligent talking dog, created by the God of Shenanigans as his messenger to Earth. He is capable of eating anything.

3. The God of Shenanigans is a running joke that I 'borrowed' from a parody of Brisingr and have expanded into its own mythos. I'm not insane. Really. Anyway, this MST contains a mention of him, and you can probably expect to see more on my end.

4. And yes, I did make one or two obscure references in my riffing. They are (in no particular order...)

-Any number of Final Fantasy references
-A few references to Dungeons and Dragons (well, more like references to DnD terms).
-Two references to the anime Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (by name both times)
-And one reaaaaaalllly obscure reference to Yu-Gi-Oh. The trading card game, not the anime.
-And one one-off reference to the Touhou series of scrolling shooter games.

You don't particularly need to know anything about any of those subjects to read and enjoy the MST though, so don't worry. xD

Anyway, glad to be a part of the team. Now if you excuse me, I need to see about finding a jumpsuit made for quadrapeds. -pads off-
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