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Advance Generation The hallmark of sprite-based Pokémon gaming, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald set you off on an adventure in the watery Hoenn region with tons of diverse Pokémon to discover. Fans of Kanto can reexplore their favorite region in FireRed and LeafGreen. Here you'll find other fans who enjoy talking about the Pokémon, strategy, and techniques to master this generation.


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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:10 PM
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Hi,

After playing Pearl on the DS, I went back to Emerald. I'm a bit confused about how completion of the Hoenn Pokedex works in this game. In Pearl, I basically had completed the Sinnoh Pokedex by the time I finished the game. In Emerald, I beat the Elite Four, but they update it to the National mode before you even finish the Hoenn mode. How do I go about completing the Hoenn mode? For example, where do I see the different forms of the starters, which I haven't yet seen?

Does the completion aspect of this game work differently than the D/P game?

Thanks for the help!
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:27 PM
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Completing the Hoenn Dex differs to completing the Sinnoh Dex.

With the Hoenn Dex, you need to have caught all 202 Pokemon to complete it.
With the Sinnoh Dex, you need to only have seen the 150 Pokemon to complete it.

You don't really need to complete the Hoenn Dex, that can be done when you go around completing the National Dex in Emerald.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:28 PM
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Yes, the completion aspect of Emerald is different from Diamond and Pearl. In Emerald, you have to catch all 200 Pokemon to complete the Hoenn Dex. In Diamond and Pearl, all you had to do is see them all before you got the National Dex.

Completing the National Dex gives you a choice of one of the 3 Johto starters in Emerald.

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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:32 PM
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Completing the National Dex gives you a choice of one of the 3 Johto starters in Emerald.
Hoenn Dex, not National Dex, as the Johto starters are included in the National Dex.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:38 PM
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OK, and I am right that unlike with the Sinnoh dex, you *need* to trade in order to complete the Hoenn one?

Also, how do you then get the three 3 Johto starters in Diamond/Pearl? Either complete the Emerald Dex on three different games (which seems insane) or trade with someone who has? Am I right that they are impossible to request through the GTS (if you have never seen them already) since they don't ever appear in D/P naturally?

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Old June 29th, 2007, 01:43 PM
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OK, and I am right that unlike with the Sinnoh dex, you *need* to trade in order to complete the Hoenn one?

Also, how do you then get the three 3 Johto starters in Diamond/Pearl? Either complete the Emerald Dex on three different games (which seems insane) or trade with someone who has? Am I right that they are impossible to request through the GTS (if you have never seen them already) since they don't ever appear in D/P naturally?

Thanks for all the help!!
Yes, you'll need to trade to finish it.

Umm... you'll need to upload it via Pal Park from your Emerald, or find it off someone else who has it on the GTS. You could use PC's trading thread to request for one and see if someone will offer you anything in return.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:23 PM
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Umm... you'll need to upload it via Pal Park from your Emerald, or find it off someone else who has it on the GTS. You could use PC's trading thread to request for one and see if someone will offer you anything in return.
That was my question: since there is no way to get them on my Pearl (other than the one for completing the Emerald dex)there is no way to request them in the GTS, right? Since you can't request something you've never encountered?
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:26 PM
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yeh, until recently, the way to get the johto starts, was relativlly obscure, like the regis the day the game was released =D
I'm resious, the internet killed a VERY well hidden trio
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:33 PM
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That was my question: since there is no way to get them on my Pearl (other than the one for completing the Emerald dex)there is no way to request them in the GTS, right? Since you can't request something you've never encountered?
No, that's why I suggested asking here on PC in the Wireless Trading section of the forum. You can set up trades with other members and just ask them for the Johto starters.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=161
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Old June 29th, 2007, 04:33 PM
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Thanks so much for the help!
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Old January 11th, 2010, 10:13 PM
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200 in the hoen pokedex. i should no.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM
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Getting the second Lati is the harder thing. Unless one utilizes an EON TICKET & e-Reader. Connecting to a Gamecube shadow game is a nice bonus, boring venture.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 10:40 PM
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The Hoenn dex is much much harder because 1. You can't use Wi-Fi to do it and 2. you need FR/LG and R/S to complete it and 3. You have to either trade with someone near you or buy another GBA so you can trade between versions to complete the dex. If you don't have the equipment and all the carts you can't finish the dex. It is extremely hard and the Sinnoh dex is so much easier. I can do all 493 Pokemon in about a month or so.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:09 PM
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200 in the hoen pokedex. i should no.
Correction - 202 Pokemon are in the Hoenn Pokedex.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 05:12 AM
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No, no, no. You do NOT need Jirachi and Deoxys in your Hoenn Pokedex to have Prof. Birch consider it "finished". This is most likely because getting those two are really, really hard to do without WiFi.

To answer your question, YES, you cannot get the Johto starters through the GTS without having at least seen them before. But it's not that big of a deal - HGSS is already out in japanese and it's soon (March) coming out in USA, so.. yeah.

Also, you don't have to trade with FR/LG to finish the Emerald dex. Only R/S IIRC.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 12:17 PM
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Yup. Hoenn was the last "real" pokemon game in 1 aspect. You literally have to "catch 'em all" to complete the pokedex, not like the wimpy Sinnoh dex
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Old June 30th, 2007, 01:33 AM

Was there any need to revive this really old thread? D:
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