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Old May 16th, 2010 (08:58 PM).
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Quote originally posted by elarmasecreta:
... I don't mind more entry hazards, but if you use stealth rock, and use another one of those stealth moves it should either replace the first one or fail.

There are HP draining moves like Giga Drain and Drain Punch, but what about moves that "drain" stats?

I came up with 2 moves: War Cry(fighting) and Power Drain(electric)

War Cry raises your attack, but it scares the opponent and lowers its attack an defense
Power Drain raises your Sp. attack and lowers the opponent's Sp. attack and sp. defense

Also there should be some more moves like leech seed, more evasion raising moves and more moves that inflict never miss damage.
Oh please no. SR is the reason I don't play competitive as much as I used to. I'm hoping for a move that prevents the use of entry hazards in the battle its used. Either that or make SR so that it has to be stacked!! 3 times like spikes.


I'm also hoping for a 100% accuracy rock move, Stone Edge pisses me off. :P

And what about a move that switches your pokemons type(s) with the opponent.

I like Venom Shot and Hydro Sprout (if only for the lawls. :P)
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Quote originally posted by Timbjerr:
Wow...people think my SR variants was a good idea? I said that sarcastically and cynically. If there are so many variations, they'd naturally be nerf'd down and their competitive value lessened. XD
I don't even know why SR variants would even begin to classify as a good idea.

I want to see a few new powerful moves with interesting side-effects like Hammer Arm and such.
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Quote originally posted by Waffle-San:
I'm also hoping for a 100% accuracy rock move, Stone Edge pisses me off. :P
Seconded. I'd also like to see a stronger priority move. Extremespeed is pretty cool but not many pokémon learn it and Sucker Punch's requirement really pisses me off. I suppose there has to be a trade-off between power and priority but it's frustrating how weak most priority moves are. More moves for Grass and Poison types would also be nice. Their lack of sizable movepools is one of the main reasons why I rarely ever use either of those types, though I suppose Grass was decently improved in Diamond and Pearl.
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^ Oh that does remind me though, on the topic of priority moves. We need a fire type priority move please!!
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Old May 16th, 2010 (09:25 PM). Edited May 16th, 2010 by Niprop.
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Fires an array of supercharged particles at the foe. This attack always goes before any other move.
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Rather than just jamming a bunch of generically-named moves into the new generation, why not focus attention on unique moves that are only available to a single Pokémon?

It might help improve those Pokémon that never feature in anyone's team. Currently, there are very, very few of these 'unique' moves and most can be learnt by the majority of Pokémon with the same type.
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Old May 16th, 2010 (10:04 PM). Edited May 16th, 2010 by colcolstyles.
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Quote originally posted by Redrup:
Rather than just jamming a bunch of generically-named moves into the new generation, why not focus attention on unique moves that are only available to a single Pokémon?

It might help improve those Pokémon that never feature in anyone's team. Currently, there are very, very few of these 'unique' moves and most can be learnt by the majority of Pokémon with the same type.
Honestly, I don't like moves that only one pokémon can use. Unless it's their signature move (like Ditto's transform or Smeargle's Sketch), I'm generally against pokémon-specific moves. I'd rather have Game Freak focus on more general necessities, like that 100% accuracy Rock-type move.
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I wouldn't mind seeing moves that can attack, but have different effects, like a move that attacks, but has like, 20% chance of lowering the foe's accuracy by one stage or something.

I'd also like to see a move that is different depending on the environment.
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I have seen some pretty cool things in pokemon ranger games, and even pokemon fire red hacks. One of them being able to ride a pokemon of your choice. That would be sweet, since I am really tired of that annoying bike sound.

Maybe the riding sound would change for certain pokemon? Wouldn't that be cool!

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what about a stronger Psychic move that isn't a signature move like Psycho Destroyer damage is 120 has the accuracy of Fire blast. We should also have a water version of Magma storm called Tempest storm... nah that one sounds more like an electric move so what about Aqua Storm.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
what about a stronger Psychic move that isn't a signature move like Psycho Destroyer damage is 120 has the accuracy of Fire blast. We should also have a water version of Magma storm called Tempest storm... nah that one sounds more like an electric move so what about Aqua Storm.
yeah I think there needs to be at least one special/physical power move for every type, especially for dark/rock/steel as they dont have many moves to begin with anyways
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If there were other types of SR, which can't be stacked, but replace each other instead, you'd have a larger chance to safely switch in things like Charizard and yanmega.

Also I kinda wondered what types of weaker moves they will include, I mean, I think they have introduce at least 100 new moves to keep things interesting.


I also think that there should be more priority moves, and maybe even give moves like extreme speed a higher priority than quick attack.
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No doubt there will be a set of new moves, but there are some moves that they need to make to balance other moves out.

The biggest example of this being Scizor + Technician + Bullet Punch

Scizor is not a fast pokemon, but with that priority move he can piss a bunch of people off. I am hoping for a fire type priority move. This way we can take down Scizor.

Another move they should make is a hypnosis counter move.

They should also make a move that does the opposite of foresight. A move that makes normal and fighting type moves not work against you.

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A fire-type priority move wouldn't be too farfetch'd.

Perhaps one or two variants of Stealth Rock...Ice and Fire type...will keep the biggest OU threats in check (of course, using one will override the previous stealth trap...keep it somewhat balanced). Oh, and speaking of entry hazards, Rapid Spin needs to be more readily available or make new moves with the same effect (preferably psychic-type or ground-type)
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Old May 18th, 2010 (08:36 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Timbjerr:
A fire-type priority move wouldn't be too farfetch'd.

Perhaps one or two variants of Stealth Rock...Ice and Fire type...will keep the biggest OU threats in check (of course, using one will override the previous stealth trap...keep it somewhat balanced). Oh, and speaking of entry hazards, Rapid Spin needs to be more readily available or make new moves with the same effect (preferably psychic-type or ground-type)
an Ice Stealth would be evil, especially if they made it have a chance of freezing!
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I want to see new attacks that do the same effect as seismic toss or night shade. Also could make new attacks for Fighting pokemon and choke there enemies or set them up in a head-lock position. lol
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I was thinking perhaps having hazards that aren't entry hazards, but activate during battle, maybe a steel type move that sets up mines which have a chance of being activated and inflicting damage when the opponent uses a physical attack.
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Merged MistaDude's "New Moves?" thread into the existing one by TwilightSky.
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Mewtwo should learn a Psychic move at level 100 called Worldslayer. When used, all 6 of the opponent's pokemon instantly faint, the opponent's game is erased, and a Nintendo representative is sent to their door to punch them in the face.
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found it.

new non-normal false-swipes so its easier to lower ghost, steel, exc.
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I think Earthquake should get a new effect that removes all entry hazards (SR, spikes, T spikes) Earthquakes sometimes tear open the ground which would cause the hazards to fall into an enormous hole. It would be an over powered RS.
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Well I'm still wondering what that move was that Zoroark used in the movie.
also, I'd like a possible Volcano move that acts like a Fire type version of Earthquake, aka, hits every opponent in the arena including underground Pokeomn, but, unlike Earthquake, also hits Flying tyes of course, but give the move only like, 5pp and make it an ultimate move.....
or does that just copy Lava Plume?
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Quote originally posted by Waffle-San:
Oh please no. SR is the reason I don't play competitive as much as I used to. I'm hoping for a move that prevents the use of entry hazards in the battle its used.
There is always Rapid Spin, that blows off entry hazards. Its a Normal Type move, so it wont work on Ghost Types. XD Making it a Normal Type move adds more strategy though.

Hmm.... how about Thunder Ball? Animation would be super awesome, and it could lower your attack. :D
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There is always Rapid Spin, that blows off entry hazards. Its a Normal Type move, so it wont work on Ghost Types. XD Making it a Normal Type move adds more strategy though.

Hmm.... how about Thunder Ball? Animation would be super awesome, and it could lower your attack. :D
A couple pages back, I suggested psychic-, ground-, and perhaps electric-type variants of Rapid Spin. You still get the same effect, and there's a type that's immune to each of them, meaning that there'd always be an option to switch into if you're good at predicting.
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