Emerald hack: [HotM August] Pokémon Saga - Pokémon DarkViolet - Page 6

SonicBlazePlatinum · #**126** August 17th, 2010, 09:58 AM

Actually HG/SS takes place before or after D/P/Pt. When you get Erika's phone number in Celadon City, Jasmine says to Erika that she wants to participate in Sinnoh's Super Contest, but she couldn't bring her self to do it. Erika suggests she wears something similar to Clairs outfit. Yet when you trade with her a random Pokemon for Steelix in HG/SS it is similar to the one she uses in D/P/Pt while in Super Contests. I got this information by going to Bulbapedia. However this is my opinion and you may not find it true.

Anyways I like the progress for Beta 1. Are there any new trainers added to routes since I know some new people appear in Viridian Forest and in Pewter Gym.

altariaking · #**127** August 17th, 2010, 11:31 AM

Does any of this honestly matter? It's a Pokemon game for the love of Jebus.
Anyway, looks really good and I'm hoping to see the beta soon

XxGrezxX · #**128** August 17th, 2010, 12:31 PM

I like how this hack is progressing, its really good in terms of graphics and music(team rocket's music sounds a bit...off from G/S/C in the video??)

Question, will you add in HG/SS main character as an event battle after E4, since HG/SS has the celebi event that transport them back to the time before Giovanni disappear, I figure this could also work.. At least it can forge link with HG/SS and give the reasons for HG/SS main character to brave through Mt.Silver just to fight Red

ps:Actually I want to suggest event battle with silver but its obvious that he never experience time travel and he has NO pokemon 3 years prior

giradialkia · #**129** August 17th, 2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarcastic Prince

Wow... that's a very detailed report you've got there.
That's just about enough to crush Heart Soul's pathectic imagination.

Jesus, uncalled for much?

@XxGrezxX, I doubt that, but you seemed to've realised yourself, too :D

I can't wait for the beta, it's gonna be SWEET. The Alpha was so much better than FR, despite having only a few maps and such. I look forward to seeing all the little changes you've added, be it in the maps, the scripts, or anything else.

Chaos Rush · #**130** August 17th, 2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicBlazePlatinum

Actually HG/SS takes place before or after D/P/Pt. When you get Erika's phone number in Celadon City, Jasmine says to Erika that she wants to participate in Sinnoh's Super Contest, but she couldn't bring her self to do it. Erika suggests she wears something similar to Clairs outfit. Yet when you trade with her a random Pokemon for Steelix in HG/SS it is similar to the one she uses in D/P/Pt while in Super Contests. I got this information by going to Bulbapedia. However this is my opinion and you may not find it true.

Anyways I like the progress for Beta 1. Are there any new trainers added to routes since I know some new people appear in Viridian Forest and in Pewter Gym.

They take place at around the same time. It doesn't matter how specific, but it's around the same time. Maybe not exact, due to stuff like that, but there is one point when Ethan/Lyra is still travelling in Johto, and Lucas/Dawn has started their journey in Sinnoh.

And yeah, there are some new trainers. Particularly on Route 3 and Mt. Moon (though all the new trainers in Mt. Moon are just extra Rocket Grunts).

And lol, I would love to see Jasmine in Clair's outfit.

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Originally Posted by altariaking

Does any of this honestly matter? It's a Pokemon game for the love of Jebus.
Anyway, looks really good and I'm hoping to see the beta soon

Well, since the Pokemon Saga hack series has the exact same plot as the official Pokemon games, you could say it matters as much as the official games do.

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

I like how this hack is progressing, its really good in terms of graphics and music(team rocket's music sounds a bit...off from G/S/C in the video??)

I never posted a video about Team Rocket music, or at least anything you were meant to see. What you saw was an example of a bad midi that Giradialkia later fixed for me. How the hell did you even find that video O_o?

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

Question, will you add in HG/SS main character as an event battle after E4, since HG/SS has the celebi event that transport them back to the time before Giovanni disappear, I figure this could also work.. At least it can forge link with HG/SS and give the reasons for HG/SS main character to brave through Mt.Silver just to fight Red

You mean the Celebi-Giovanni event? Ya, I'm just going to pretend that it happens after the events of DarkViolet, but before the events of HG/SS.

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

ps:Actually I want to suggest event battle with silver but its obvious that he never experience time travel and he has NO pokemon 3 years prior

Silver doesn't battle Red in HG/SS.

Christos · #**131** August 18th, 2010, 06:16 AM

Please stop this discussion about the timelines, since it could go really off-topic, spammy, and get Sarcastic Prince banned again for being disrespectful to other members. :3

XxGrezxX · #**132** August 18th, 2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

I never posted a video about Team Rocket music, or at least anything you were meant to see. What you saw was an example of a bad midi that Giradialkia later fixed for me. How the hell did you even find that video O_o?

One of the videos about the rematching of trainers bring me to the photobucket where i just scroll through and found out about it

Will there be any good side quest in post game for this game??

Chaos Rush · #**133** August 18th, 2010, 05:07 PM

Small update.

Team Magma logo has been hacked.

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

Will there be any good side quest in post game for this game??

Maybe. Stuff like that is probably one of the last things that will be worked on this hack.

Heart's Soul · #**134** August 18th, 2010, 05:23 PM

That's really cool. Now I remember why do I support this hack, lol.

Sarcastic Prince · #**135** August 19th, 2010, 05:50 AM

Wow... how did you do that?
The Team Rocket logo is awesome!

altariaking · #**136** August 19th, 2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarcastic Prince

Wow... why did you do that?
The Team Rocket logo is awesome!

Because team rocket are the bad guys, so it's better to change the logo instead of having team rocket with team magma's logo.

xoax · #**137** August 19th, 2010, 09:00 AM

Yay,the hack looks really good.

The only thing that bugs me are the trees. They look out of place,especially in the Forest. >< Try to change them.
And yes,will the Leaders and Trainers have Hoenn and Johto pokemon,or will they match the FR ones?

XxGrezxX · #**138** August 19th, 2010, 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=Chaos Rush;6083418]Small update.

Team Magma logo has been hacked.
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I think that this is just a prototype logo right??It has no shade and all.. Good job though

SonicBlazePlatinum · #**139** August 19th, 2010, 10:12 AM

I like the Team Rokcet logo you made! It is different from HG/SS where red R's are thrown too. Also beta 1 is coming soon, I can't wait to play it! I'll play this when it comes out.

Sarcastic Prince · #**140** August 19th, 2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by altariaking

Because team rocket are the bad guys, so it's better to change the logo instead of having team rocket with team magma's logo.

I meant to say "How" instead of "Why".
And also, I know that they're bad guys, no need to tell me that.

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

I think that this is just a prototype logo right??It has no shade and all.. Good job though

Probably not.
And why would you need shading, anyways?
It's not even important. The Team Magma and Aqua logos don't
have shading, so why should this Rocket logo have shading?
I don't understand.

Chaos Rush · #**141** August 19th, 2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoax

Yay,the hack looks really good.

The only thing that bugs me are the trees. They look out of place,especially in the Forest. >< Try to change them.
And yes,will the Leaders and Trainers have Hoenn and Johto pokemon,or will they match the FR ones?

The trees are never going to change. EVAR.

And no, they will not have Hoenn and Johto Pokemon :/. They will have Pokemon in my imaginary Kanto dex.

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Originally Posted by XxGrezxX

I think that this is just a prototype logo right??It has no shade and all.. Good job though

The Team Aqua and Magma logos don't have shade either. I guess they look "better" is because their logos are more than just a plain R.

So you guys can understand what Pokemon you can expect to see in this hack, here is my imaginary Kanto dex:

Spoiler:

That's 202 Pokemon. All of those Pokemon will be obtainable before the Elite Four, except Mewtwo and Mew. The only Gen III Pokemon in it are Wynaut and Azurill.

Anyways, I'm almost done with Beta 1... hopefully I can finish it soon enough to make it a double post haha.

Chaos Rush · #**142** August 20th, 2010, 01:15 AM

OKAY! Beta 1 is finally here (for real this time)!

A few things you may notice:
*Trainer encounter music is unchanged from Emerald
-In the future I plan on using remixes of the G/S/C ones, which I haven't found/made yet

*The man that sells Magikarp is missing
-Don't worry, he'll be in Beta 1.1 which will be released shortly

*The color of your reflection when looking at a pond/Misty's gym is mismatched
-This will be fixed in Beta 1.1

*Door animations in Viridian, Pewter, and Cerulean are ugly
-I'm too lazy to change them. It will be changed by Beta 2.

Er... have fun! And there will be a Beta 1.1 released shortly to fix any problems you may encounter.

EDIT: Oh, and credit to Giradialkia for fixing Team Rocket's battle theme.

EDIT: Oh, and please, tell me if Brock, Ariana, and Misty are too hard or too easy.

EDIT: Re-uploaded the patch since there was something I forgot

nasonex · #**143** August 20th, 2010, 01:25 AM

Whoa!!! It's finally out! Been waiting for this like FOREVER! But now it's
finally out! Hooray!

Gotta love this Hack! Goona try it now! Thanks Chaos Rush!

Good luck on the next beta! :D

alo123 · #**144** August 20th, 2010, 02:29 AM

Great hack I am enjoying it so far just wanted to point out some
things

Spoiler:

I just got the pokedex will post more things if I find any

Edit: just finished the game and it was great
I also found some more bugs which I put in the spoiler

Jake♫ · #**145** August 20th, 2010, 02:45 AM

Just finished playing through, actually (I always loved the speed-up on VBA =D), and I must say I'm quite impressed with this. Just a few things that I noticed were rather...interesting errors (And if you want screenshots I'll go back and take them XD):

In the Pewter City museum, all the way at the top, there is some Team Aqua members on the wall, colored the same as the wall. I'm pretty sure they shouldn't be there xD
On Route 25 (I think, or 24. The little cape above Cerulean that you surf to reach Unknown Cave), there is 3 Pokeballs and a Female Swimmer sprite sitting on the mountain-side. Those probably shouldn't be there either =3

And other than the things you've already pointed out, I didn't really see any other errors. Overall, great hack so far, and I can't wait to see how far you come with this.

Nischara · #**146** August 20th, 2010, 06:04 AM

I don't know what I'm doing wrong...but I can't even start a new game...

The game just gets a black screen and that's it

Chaos Rush · #**147** August 20th, 2010, 02:51 PM

I've uploaded a new patch with some errors removed:
*Fixed some item flags that conflicted with each other in Mt. Moon
*Removed a sign in Pewter City
*Removed some blank NPCs in Pewter Museum and Route 24
*Fixed a tile movement error in Mt. Moon and Route 4
*Added lazy dialogue to blank NPCs in Pewter Museum and Cerulean Bike Shop

If there are more things to fix, then it will all go to Beta 1.

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Originally Posted by Nischara

I don't know what I'm doing wrong...but I can't even start a new game...

The game just gets a black screen and that's it

Did you try the .aps file in the first post then? If that doesn't work, then you probably need to find a different Emerald rom, since other people got it to work.

I'm just wondering, but did you guys fight Team Rocket in Mt. Moon? Since I accidentally made some of the rocks in the entrance room walkable, meaning that you could skip Mt. Moon entirely. I've uploaded a fixed patch however, but I really want to hear about if Ariana was too hard or too easy.

Oh, and you can expect progress to slow down a bit. I don't know why, but I wanted to release a Beta really bad O_o.

Nischara · #**148** August 20th, 2010, 07:32 PM

Good I got the hack working and here are my impressions of it:

- goddamn that grafic is awesome! You done a great job on it
- door glitch (was already mentioned)
- will Daisy increase the happiness of your Pokémon at some point in the game?
- Route 1 was stretched a lot more, really nice!
- MOVING SPRITES
- Viridian City looks good to, though it still has one of those houses without doors I don't like but ok...
- I personally think the first Blue battle is a bit too hard. I took Bulbasaur on the start but instead of being the easiest it was the hardest. Don't you think a Wing Attack Pidgey and a Ember Charmander are a bit tough at that stage where the game says it is the Pokémon which is easiest to train? Now don't get me wrong I think it is wonderful if you make the game harder, but maybe wait until we can built a decent team...
- signs don't work (was already mentioned)
Green battle is very nice. But shouldn't she go away after you beets her?
- Viridian Forest looks like THAT cool
- Is there a potion by the guy who lost an item? I didn't find one, same for the entrance where a Antidote was always hidden in the first tree...
- Pewter City Museum has some scripts that don't work (I think already mentioned)
- Doesn't that one guy who leads you to the Museum on that small hill look kind of awkward?
- there is no sign in front of Brooks GYM
- I like the new GYM remix
- I think it would be kind of cool having a own soundtrack for every city in the game (Viridian and Pewter City sound the same). Do you think you could somehow remix them differently?
- Glitch by Brooks dialoge
- you diss the bugcatchers pretty often

- the market sells more after the first badge...what a relief seeing that in a Kanto-Remake!
- Rematch system is awesome!
- I think the grass in Route 3 looks way to flat it doesn't really look like grass anymore...
- If I remember correct there is now a Rick in Viridian Forest to match the one on Route 3. Excellent!
- Wild Igglybuff yeah! The other Pokémon catchable on that Route are cool to (Machop that early...)

- I still don't quite like the battle music somehow...
- the "Eek did you touch me girl" now has more of a reason to say that!
- on the eastside Route 3 looks more like grass
- the whole layout of route 3 is simply fantastic if I forget about the grass. - Also the trainer number in Viridian Forest and Route 3 is really great. However I still miss a real storyline up to Mount Moon somehow...
- Great explanation of why Mt. Moon was so tiny in HG/SS but isn't in DarkSaga from the NPC in the whole east of Route 3
- I enjoy the Pokémon Center music
- Oh yeah I almost forgot: BUGCATCHERS FINALLY GIVE A ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
- The Lass in Viridian Forest only gives 80 $ (less than the bug catchers) is that purpose?
- I must say it once more, that babies are treated like a first evolution and not as a baby you have to bread is great!
- btw how will trade evolutions be done in DarkSaga. Already an idea?
- Team Rockets tune from HG/SS I'm SO glad

(The R is cool to)
- the Rocket grunts aren't complete losers anymore

- a lot more Rockets, that even don't suck
- I just simply LOVE the lineout of Mount Moon, how you left its length in HG/SS but brought up the original layout of R/B/Y back a bit and in your style it's just so AWESOME!
- Wherever you got Ariannas sprite, it's great!
- I like here lineup. Though I didn't have any real problems with her (well I'm a bit overtrained xD) the Oddish was extremely annoying

- both fossils`Well I guess that's net (though I somehow miss the jerk who took you one xD)
- East part of Route 3 has similar problems with the grass
- A Fury Cutter Tutor? O.o
- Will only the one trainer on route 3 have rematches?
- Green heling your Pokémon is awesome! (Pls make more rival battles

)
- Cerulean City is also cool (but has houses without doors-,-)
- Don't you think the Daycare on Route 5 looks a bit flat? I mean there's nothing to see there so you could make a garden behind there of some type or?
- The joke about Abra in Cerulean just is great :D
- Is there a chance the TVs will report something at some point?
- Psyducks blocking the way? We all know what that means

- Route 24 shortened to "Rt. 24"? Haven't seen something like that before...
- The sign by the daycare isn't working
- Where is the guy who told me abput the 8 Badges? O.o
- Nice of you giving Lanette some credit

- Bluea new lineup is asskicking but not broken so perfect!
- No rain on Routes 24/25?

I checked it out an advance map looks really awesome...
- I LOVE how many trainers are now in Cerulean Cit (keep it up for Major Bob!)
- I think Misty is still a bit too easy...

Well that's all. I hope I didn't wall you I just tried to give a awesome hack a awesome feedback.

Chaos Rush · #**149** August 20th, 2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nischara

- will Daisy increase the happiness of your Pokémon at some point in the game?

I'm probably just going to make a massage lady similar to the one in D/P/Pt in some random city (probably Saffron or Celadon)

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- I personally think the first Blue battle is a bit too hard. I took Bulbasaur on the start but instead of being the easiest it was the hardest. Don't you think a Wing Attack Pidgey and a Ember Charmander are a bit tough at that stage where the game says it is the Pokémon which is easiest to train? Now don't get me wrong I think it is wonderful if you make the game harder, but maybe wait until we can built a decent team...

Do you mean the second battle? Because all he has in the first battle is a Lv5 Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle.

Unless if you're talking about the one on Route 22, then I can understand. His Pidgey does not know Wing Attack, but it knows Gust, unlike FR/LG. That's just because of my leveling choice: In FR/LG it's Lv8 so it doesn't know Gust yet, but in Red/Blue it was Lv9. If you noticed, I changed some of the later trainer's rosters back to the ones that they were in Red/Blue.

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Green battle is very nice. But shouldn't she go away after you beets her?

She goes away after you get the Pewter badge.

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- Is there a potion by the guy who lost an item? I didn't find one, same for the entrance where a Antidote was always hidden in the first tree...

Mind telling me what you're talking about?

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- Doesn't that one guy who leads you to the Museum on that small hill look kind of awkward?

How?

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- I think it would be kind of cool having a own soundtrack for every city in the game (Viridian and Pewter City sound the same). Do you think you could somehow remix them differently?

Probably not. I want to keep things consistent with HG/SS, and in HG/SS they all have the same theme.

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- you diss the bugcatchers pretty often

lol how?

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- the market sells more after the first badge...what a relief seeing that in a Kanto-Remake!

Yes, the PokeMart system will be just like D/P/Pt/HG/SS

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- I think the grass in Route 3 looks way to flat it doesn't really look like grass anymore...

Could you elaborate a bit more? What grass? The wild Pokemon, or the standard grass?

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- If I remember correct there is now a Rick in Viridian Forest to match the one on Route 3. Excellent!

lol I thought no one would notice that. Yeah, it kinda bugged me how in FR/LG, Bug Catcher Colton said he saw you in Viridian Forest even though there's no Colton in Viridian Forest. So I renamed Colton to Rick, the trainer in Viridian Forest with the team that matches Colton's FR/LG team the most.

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- The Lass in Viridian Forest only gives 80 $ (less than the bug catchers) is that purpose?

It's not on purpose... I'll have to figure out why

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- I must say it once more, that babies are treated like a first evolution and not as a baby you have to bread is great!

Most baby Pokemon will be treated as first evolutions, but not all. For instance, I left Pikachu in Viridian Forest because Pichu's are just too weak...

Then again, Igglybuff are also weak, but who cares lol.

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- btw how will trade evolutions be done in DarkSaga. Already an idea?

Happiness evolutions. Such as Golbat -> Crobat.

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- Team Rockets tune from HG/SS I'm SO glad

(The R is cool to)

Actually it's not from HG/SS, it's a remix that I made. I guess you could say it's kind of a mix between the G/S/C one and the HG/SS one.

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- Wherever you got Ariannas sprite, it's great!

Why does everyone assume I find this stuff? I didn't find the Ariana sprite anywhere, because I made it.

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- I like here lineup. Though I didn't have any real problems with her (well I'm a bit overtrained xD) the Oddish was extremely annoying

Glad to hear that. I was hoping that Ariana would give Oddish a whole new dark side...

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- A Fury Cutter Tutor? O.o

Well, in Emerald, the Mega Punch and Mega Kick tutors are in the Battle Frontier, so I'm going to keep it that way.

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- Will only the one trainer on route 3 have rematches?

You mean Route 4? No, sorry.

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- Don't you think the Daycare on Route 5 looks a bit flat? I mean there's nothing to see there so you could make a garden behind there of some type or?

Then I would have to extend the Route, and so I don't want to explain why Route 5 suddenly shrunk 3 years later...

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- Is there a chance the TVs will report something at some point?

Nope. They don't report anything in HG/SS, so I'm gonna do that for consistency.

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- Route 24 shortened to "Rt. 24"? Haven't seen something like that before...

If you look in the upper left hand corner when you enter the route, it still says, "Route 24". The reason why the sign says, "Rt. 24" because it says that in HG/SS.

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- Where is the guy who told me abput the 8 Badges? O.o

I'm too lazy to do a multichoice for that many options.

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- No rain on Routes 24/25?

I checked it out an advance map looks really awesome...

It's going to occasionally rain. It's not implemented yet in the current beta because I was too lazy to.

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Well that's all. I hope I didn't wall you I just tried to give a awesome hack a awesome feedback.

No problem, I love feedback like this, because then I can correct these things to make my hack perfect.

Nischara · #**150** August 20th, 2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

Do you mean the second battle? Because all he has in the first battle is a Lv5 Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle.

Unless if you're talking about the one on Route 22, then I can understand. His Pidgey does not know Wing Attack, but it knows Gust, unlike FR/LG. That's just because of my leveling choice: In FR/LG it's Lv8 so it doesn't know Gust yet, but in Red/Blue it was Lv9. If you noticed, I changed some of the later trainer's rosters back to the ones that they were in Red/Blue.

Yes, I'm sorry for not talking clearly enough. I meant the second battle, where I got my ass kicked several times because they both were strong against me. But well I guess I'll just have to use Bulbasaurs support moves to stop them

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

Mind telling me what you're talking about?

Sorry, that explanation was really ******. You remember the bug catcher at the end of Viridian Forest how claimed he lost something in the grass and asks you to help him looking for it? Is there actually a item there because I didn't find anything...
And the Antidote was always a hidden in the very first forest of Viridian City.

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

How?

I don't quite know he just looks really weird standing alone on that hill with a really small bunch of grass

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

lol how?

By letting your NPCs constantly say how Bug Catchers suck

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

Could you elaborate a bit more? What grass? The wild Pokemon, or the standard grass?

No, I meant the normal ground, not the grass with the wild Pokémon. A few tiles I think are missing which would represent it as grass.

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

Why does everyone assume I find this stuff? I didn't find the Ariana sprite anywhere, because I made it.

You made it you self? Gee I must give you credit, that's real excellent work

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Originally Posted by Chaos Rush

Then I would have to extend the Route, and so I don't want to explain why Route 5 suddenly shrunk 3 years later...

Oh, well I quite understand that point...

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