Emerald hack: [HotM August] Pokémon Saga - Pokémon DarkViolet - Page 8

Heart's Soul · #**176** August 22nd, 2010, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintendork15

And i was wonderin
With Proton and Petrel be in the Game
Since there part of TEAM rocket

Yes, but as grunts. Fortunately.

Surmonter · #**177** August 22nd, 2010, 09:27 PM

I really love this, purely because of the Viridian Forest tiles.

In HG/SS, I would just roam there for hours just because I loved Viridian Forest so much in it. <3

Chaos Rush · #**178** August 23rd, 2010, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintendork15

Machop was origanlly Normal in R/B/G

But was moved to Fighting Type due to the amount of BlackBelt and Hikers that use them

(...someone's done his homework...) :D

Wrong. Dude, I have the Japanese Green (I'll even take a picture if you don't believe me), and I can confirm that the wild Pokemon are EXACTLY the same as the American Blue version. That means no Machop on Route 3. And Machop wasn't in the Japanese Blue version either. And why does everyone pretend that the Japanese Red doesn't exist? And I think you totally missed the point too. The point was that Machop weren't in Route 3, and for some reason you read that as Machop being Normal type, wtf? Machop has always been fighting type, even in the Japanese Red & Green versions.

Also, Proton and Petrel will kinda be in the game. But you won't be able to tell, since I'm giving Proton's team a complete makeover in "Pokemon Saga - HeartGold". But there will be a Rocket Grunt in Silph Co. with six Koffings.

Chaos Rush · #**179** August 23rd, 2010, 10:43 PM

Sorry for double post, but here's something that I've been working on:

All three battle backgrounds originally used the same tileset in Pokemon Emerald, but I've figured out a way to make them use separate tilesets, but all 3 share a single tilemap. So yeah, basically I've turned one battle background into three.

Poke_M0 · #**180** August 24th, 2010, 09:35 AM

Whats the end of the beta 1?

Nintendork15 · #**181** August 24th, 2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke_M0

Whats the end of the beta 1?

It's once you Beat misty/or go to BILL which ever you do last?

Chaos Rush · #**182** August 24th, 2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke_M0

Whats the end of the beta 1?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nintendork15

It's once you Beat misty/or go to BILL which ever you do last?

Actually, it ends when you beat the Rocket Grunt on Route 5. In order to do that, you have to beat Misty.

Route 24 & 25 is entirely optional, though in the next beta it will be impossible to go on the S.S. Anne without saving Bill first.

Team Rocket's Raichu · #**183** August 31st, 2010, 01:14 AM

I love the tiles and the hack. Very well made. Kudos to you, Chaos Rush. Good luck on finishing. It must take a lot of time and effort to make something this nice.

Turtlicious · #**184** September 2nd, 2010, 07:45 PM

How far does beta1fixed go to?

is it like all the way to the end and beta 2 is fine tuning?

someone pm me the answer!

Nevermind just looked at the post right above mine...

GOOD JOB I LOVE IT!!!!

altariaking · #**185** September 2nd, 2010, 07:51 PM

I'll be the first one to say this then, congratulations on winning HOTM!

Chaos Rush · #**186** September 2nd, 2010, 08:23 PM

Just posting to say that this game is getting somewhat of a major graphics change. Many of you may not like it, but I'm going to have to restart anyway because of JPAN recently discovering certain variables that you shouldn't use. Don't worry, a lot of the tiles will be exactly the same.

LightOfTruth · #**187** September 3rd, 2010, 08:04 PM

Congrats on winning Hack Of The Month. Hope to see more good work soon

metalflygon08 · #**188** September 4th, 2010, 07:06 AM

your restarting again? oh no...

well then may I propose a helpfulnessity thing...

Spoiler:

in that spoiler is somthing i'm working on, Emerald animations for FR pokemon sprites, becuase let's face it, the RSE 150 pokemon suck. So I'll finish up these, and let you use them for free. I know you said you wouldn't change sprites for a while, but this is long term you see.

Diablerie · #**189** September 4th, 2010, 10:09 AM

The thing I noticed most about this hack is the awesome tiles. This feels like a DS adventure thanks to those incredible graphics. Keep up the good work!

Chaos Rush · #**190** September 4th, 2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalflygon08

Spoiler:

in that spoiler is somthing i'm working on, Emerald animations for FR pokemon sprites, becuase let's face it, the RSE 150 pokemon suck. So I'll finish up these, and let you use them for free. I know you said you wouldn't change sprites for a while, but this is long term you see.

I've already made secondary frames myself for all 151 Pokemon (but I'm not going to insert them):
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=222966

And the Emerald animations DO NOT suck, it's just a matter of opinion. And at first, since I was making 4th Gen-ish battle backgrounds, neither the R/S/E or FR/LG sprites match with them, so I decided to make 64x64 versions of 4th Gen sprites (that are properly resized, unlike most hacks

), but for now, I'm sticking with the R/S/E battle backgrounds, since then they'll match the sprites.

metalflygon08 · #**191** September 4th, 2010, 08:22 PM

That's creepy, I'VE NEVER SEEN THESE, YET ALOT OF MINE ARE VERY SIMILAR TO YOURS 0_O i GUESS GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE?

Chaos Rush · #**192** September 7th, 2010, 01:35 AM

Okay, I have some bad news. Even though it's not particularly about DarkViolet, it's about the future of Pokémon Saga.

Let me say this once again, Pokémon Saga is supposed to be 4 games. Two of them are on GBA, and the other two are on DS. The GBA ones will be DarkViolet and Jade, while the DS ones will keep their official names, HeartGold and Platinum. Anyways, so when the time comes to start, "Pokémon Saga - Platinum", one of the things that will be changes is the PokéDex order. As you guys know, in Platinum, they were really lazy in the Sinnoh Dex expansion that they just added Pokémon to the end of that, and it looked really weird because there were legendaries in the middle of the Pokedex. Since I'm going to re-order it (but keep the Pokémon the same), I did a Sinnoh Dex test edit just to see if it will work. Just for testing purposes, I simply changed the Sinnoh Dex to the Johto Dex. Here were my results:

As you can see, Pokémon that weren't originally in the Sinnoh Dex will not display numbers. That will not be a problem, since in Pokémon Saga Platinum, the Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex will be exactly the same, but it will be re-ordered to make sense. This is what I want the Sinnoh Dex order to be:

Spoiler:

So you may ask, if the Pokémon are going to be the same, then what's the problem? Well, the numbers won't display in the correct order. For instance, it will say that Giratina is #210 even though I moved it to #209, it will say that Manaphy is #151 even though I moved it to #210, and it will say that Dialga is #149 even though I moved it to #207, etc.

However, that's not much of a big problem considering the problems I had with HeartGold: I tried the same thing with Platinum, except in reverse. So I changed the Johto Dex to the Sinnoh Dex. Here were my results:

As you can see, it's A LOT glitchier than what happened with Platinum. Only Pokémon that appear in the HG/SS Johto Dex AND the Platinum Sinnoh Dex are listed (yes, Lickilicky is in the Johto Dex in HG/SS).

Here is what I want the new Johto PokéDex to be in Pokémon Saga HeartGold:

Spoiler:

As you can see, I only want 210 Pokémon, not 256. Now most of these Pokémon listed above are in the HG/SS Johto PokéDex, but there are certain Pokémon that weren't, such as Azurill, Magmortar, Weavile, etc. The only narc file that resembles PokéDex data is at a/0/7/4, while another place is at 0x64D2180. If I were to change the order to the way I wanted (the list above), then the Pokémon order would not be right, and Pokémon that weren't there originally, such as Azurill, Magmortar, and Weavile, would not appear at all even though they would be in the list. (and there's a graphical glitch where the textboxes don't show up)

Now I know this doesn't affect DarkViolet at all, but like it or not, DarkViolet has always been a part of Pokémon Saga, even when it was called ShadowAmethyst. I guess I'll continue working on DarkViolet and Jade, but finding out that I won't be able to edit the PokéDex the way I want it in future Pokémon Saga games really sucks the motivation out of me.

Right now, DarkViolet and Jade are fine, but Platinum is a little screwed, and HeartGold is VERY screwed. I was really looking forward to playing through Johto the way I wanted to, and that was part of my motivation. But now a huge chunk of my motivation is gone, knowing that at this point I may never be able to complete Pokémon Saga the way I want it.

I mean, sure, I give you the National Dex in DarkViolet right away, but that's not what I want in the final version. I guess the only way to make it work right now is simply: Pretend regional PokéDexes don't exist. That means I might have to give you the National Dex right away in all 4 Pokémon Saga games, but I REALLY do not want to do that.

pneumono · #**193** September 8th, 2010, 11:27 AM

does the game end after cerulean city?i can't seem to get through route 5.

dragoniteuser · #**194** September 8th, 2010, 09:04 PM

That's probably the end of the BETA 1!
You'll have to wait for the next BETA to go further...

SonicBlazePlatinum · #**195** September 19th, 2010, 06:53 PM

Seeing you won't be back until March or April I'm not sure if my question will be answered. It would be if the old man and his Machop finished the building in Vermilion, but it wasn't finished in Heart Gold and Soul Silver anyways. Or are you gonna make a funny reference to it?

aSeRo141414 · #**196** September 28th, 2010, 10:54 PM

wao! I seen another emerald hack!! And the battle backgrounds is cool!!

Sarcastic Prince · #**197** September 30th, 2010, 12:18 PM

I'm sorry that I'm a bit late, but I finally completed Beta 1.
There are a few oddites/glitches you need to watch for, though.

When the old man in Vidrian City tries to demonstrate on how to catch a Pokemon, first of all, the backsprite is unchanged, and the text of the old man is unchanged as well.

I don't understand why, but there's a big gap here.

Tile error. The starting of the bridge seems like as if it's "cut" off in half?

If I try going back to this ladder, I'll warped into a different place instead. (Stuck in a wall.)

Baronnecro · #**198** October 5th, 2010, 12:44 AM

I like the screenshots. I have the 1986_Emerald_(U) rom is this the correct rom to patch? every time I patch it. I play the rom and it doesn't have anything altered from Emerald version. plz help I cannot find on the site where this is discussed. ALSO I USE LIPS to patch it. does this matter?

ShagGrenade · #**199** October 11th, 2010, 01:53 PM

Played through the Beta now, and I have to say...

I loved every minute of it. Love the premise, love the maps and love that there may yet be a whole series of them. Hang in there. :D

mat225 · #**200** October 21st, 2010, 08:36 PM

How pokemon like machop evolve in this hack? by trade or level? and what level?

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