[General] 5th Generation Pokémon Hacking/Information Consolidation

[Team Fail]

Ok. The games Pokemon Black and White are possible going to be released anytime now, even though there are rumors that the rom is already released. I dunno what to believe, but, anyways, this is the (unofficial) thread to post Black/White information. Post away with your findings!

[Cello]

According to word floating around 2chan, Black/White are 1gb in size.
It seems physically impossible for a NDS cart, however.

I have reason to not doubt them though.

[Destiny Demon]

Wait 1gb ROM size? OMG that takes up big space. I don't think we're gonna be hacking Gen. V anyways anytime soon, with all the 3-D graphics and such, I mean, we barely cracked some stuff for Gen. IV hacking.

[SharpPoint]

Originally Posted by Destiny Demon

Wait 1gb ROM size? OMG that takes up big space. I don't think we're gonna be hacking Gen. V anyways anytime soon, with all the 3-D graphics and such, I mean, we barely cracked some stuff for Gen. IV hacking.

Since both are on the same system, hacking Black and White should be the same difficulty as hacking Diamond and Pearl.

[Ninja Caterpie]

Originally Posted by SharpPoint

Since both are on the same system, hacking Black and White should be the same difficulty as hacking Diamond and Pearl.

um no last time i checked that's not how things work. They're a completely new generation, they're based off a completely different engine which has even more complex 3D graphics. Graphic'sll very likely be much harder to hack.

The other stuff...can't be too sure.

[Cello]

Originally Posted by Cello

According to word floating around 2chan, Black/White are 1gb in size.
It seems physically impossible for a NDS cart, however.

I have reason to not doubt them though.

My apologies everyone. The info I posted earlier has proven to be false(which, really, there's no surprise. I mean a 1gb DS game? Really Cello?)

The ROM size is 256MB in size, as proven by:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/koby_akid/

Mods, don't worry, it's not a link to the ROM. Koby_Akid has managed to dump the ROM but has no plan to distribute it, merely come up with cheats for B/W.

That's all. :D

[Team Fail]

Ok. The rom is out. I'm trying to get a copy- but all the rar files that have them are broken.

[~Teh Panda~]

Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

[Ninja Caterpie]

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~

Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

Then why am I seeing screenshots with Pokemon having leveled and/or gained experience?

[Andrecito77]

thenewpoketext does not extract Black or White......

[~Teh Panda~]

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie

Then why am I seeing screenshots with Pokemon having leveled and/or gained experience?

Alright you try out the rom for yourself .

You are probably just receiving pics straight from a DS. You realize you can screen capture >.>, also with hacks level editing is possible... As we know...

EDIT: Proof

[Gamer2020]

*Whistles while walking away*

[●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•●]

From GBATemp :

a/0/
a/0/1/1 contains the images for the fight menu
a/0/2/5 item sprites
a/0/3/0 touchscreen status?
a/0/3/1 player sprites
a/0/32 npc sprites
a/0/4/1 trainer sprites in combat
a/0/5/5 Pokemon types / movement type
a/0/8/3 Pokemon status menu?
a/0/8/5 world map

a/1/
a/1/1/8 keyboard
a/1/2/0 wifi club screen
a/1/2/4 Pokemon types / movement type
a/1/3/1 Character Artworks?
a/1/3/7 Battle Recorder
a/1/3/9 DSi / DSi XL / LL Menu Screen
a/1/4/3 Game Sync Screens
a/1/5/1 Season Screens (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter)
a/1/6/4 Copyright Screen
a/1/7/0 Player and his friend's Pictures
a/1/7/1 CGear
a/1/7/3 Balloons
a/1/8/4 Trainer Sprites
a/1/8/7 Mysterious Person 'N'

a/2/
a/2/0/1 Certificate?
a/2/0/2 Certificate?
a/2/0/5 Starter's pictures
a/2/0/6 Battle Subway Map
a/2/2/0 'The End' Screen
a/2/4/4 Some Text (not the Script)

I don't take the credits...

[slawter666]

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~

Alright you try out the rom for yourself .

You are probably just receiving pics straight from a DS. You realize you can screen capture >.>, also with hacks level editing is possible... As we know...

EDIT: Proof

Yep, but it's fixed already

[PokémonShinySilver]

Looks to me like the Mapping in the 5th Generation hasn't changed from the 4th.
I think only certain maps are able to use the rotating script, as it is used to rotate the map around and a script that ends the rotation along with of course... the camera zoom scripts.
I knew it... the mapping engine hasn't changed much.

I haven't tried going into a mystery zone yet... but I'm guessing that it might be a different name.
Like Diamond/Pearl/Platinum had "Mystery Zone", HeartGold/SoulSilver had "----------".
I'm guessing the name of the Mystery Zone in Black/White probably will be either "???????????" or no text at all. I also wonder what the music would be in it as well.

[~Teh Panda~]

Originally Posted by The-Great-Falkner

What I'am posting now is a black version with the exp fix, it works 100% but only with Desmume the emulator I'm not so if I spelled it right...any way there are 2 problems with this game, after you get to the second town and go into the pokemon center witch is an event with the new prof. and that girl thats your friend in the green once you talk to nurse joy the game freezes up but no black screen and the other problem is its in Japanese so someone needs to make it run with no cash gba and make a cheat that stops the freeze like in hh and ss, plus an english patch needs to be made.
Once these are made the game can be played to its full epicness with no worries...Oh and I tryed out the game and its actually pretty cool.

If you choose to do this good luck!

Well thats a no no, no uploading roms...

But it seems you did not even upload the actual thing XD since I would assume the rom is bigger than what a few bytes... lol

[Gamer2020]

If only you could see the other things I didn't feel like taking screens of...

[Poeman]

Do show :3
That looks awesome haha, nice work!

[thethethethe]

Just at a quick glance through the ROM. Here's just a short list of things I noticed.

1. No new evolution methods
2. Some more redefining of data. eg. In base stats Grass Type appears to be 0B instead of 0C
3. I'm unable to find simple structures used since Gen. 3. Which means one of two things. The structures have been overhauled or they have a completely new things like TM lists, and the way types interact.

I've just had a quick look. I could also have a ROM that's been tampered with, so if none of these apply to anyone else, just ignore this post.

[Gamer2020]

Originally Posted by thethethethe

Just at a quick glance through the ROM. Here's just a short list of things I noticed.

1. No new evolution methods
2. Some more redefining of data. eg. In base stats Grass Type appears to be 0B instead of 0C
3. I'm unable to find simple structures used since Gen. 3. Which means one of two things. The structures have been overhauled or they have a completely new things like TM lists, and the way types interact.

I've just had a quick look. I could also have a ROM that's been tampered with, so if none of these apply to anyone else, just ignore this post.

I'm pretty sure there is a new TM list

[Team Fail]

Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver

Looks to me like the Mapping in the 5th Generation hasn't changed from the 4th.
I think only certain maps are able to use the rotating script, as it is used to rotate the map around and a script that ends the rotation along with of course... the camera zoom scripts.
I knew it... the mapping engine hasn't changed much.

I haven't tried going into a mystery zone yet... but I'm guessing that it might be a different name.
Like Diamond/Pearl/Platinum had "Mystery Zone", HeartGold/SoulSilver had "----------".
I'm guessing the name of the Mystery Zone in Black/White probably will be either "???????????" or no text at all. I also wonder what the music would be in it as well.

Well, I can take a very good guess. In DPPtHGSS, the song for any outside-of-boundaries areas would render the SEQ_DUMMY.sseq file as heard in VGMtrans. There is an identical file, SEQ_BGM_DUMMY.sseq in BW that plays the Pokemon musical theme.

[Potatomuffin]

This is Potatomuffin, signing in! I'll be trying to map hack (as par usual) Black. What have you guys got so far?( i'm downloading the rom as I type)

[aSeRo141414]

I seen a sprites of Black and White, thanks to Galukxy and WonderGirl, Galukxy found it wondergirl post it in the news in her site, XD
but it's from Veekun
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9250/bwmontage.png

[axlefoley]

I think I may have found the start of the wild pokemon data

$8A21B44

can anyone confirm this?

[Anonamous]

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~

Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

Lol that explains a lot. No wonder lol I just thought I was going crazy