DS Map Graphics Editor

[Link_971]

Hello at all!

Here, in 2010, i've presented my new tool ; DS Map Graphics Editor, the first Map editor for Pokemon 4th and 5th gen games.
This editor has never been accomplished, but it have never been cancelled.

Today, this project has merged into a specific branch of NPRE, for propose a more clear manual texture editor, for users which prefer use this method.



Features of DSMGE (with NPRE rev5 / PG4Map core) :


- Friendly multilingual user interface (DSMGE)
- 3D Viewer in real time (PG4Map)
- Materials viewer / editor (NPRE / DSMGE)
- Polygon viewer / editor (NPRE / DSMGE)
- Map generator (DSMGE)



Informations :


Coded in C#.

Original language : French
Size : - MB



Translators (interface, lists) :


English version :

Team Fail
mindfreak


German / Dutch version :

looper
Frankiscool


Spanish version : Spiky-Eared Pichu


Italian version :

P-troizépi
Platinum994


Romanian version : n0rul3s


Japanese version : 雷影　イチロ[/I]



Versions :


0.5 (Private) - 12th January, 2013 : Better gestion of saving functions (beta). Critical bugfix for the converter. Critical bugfix for polygons saving (alpha).
0.4 (Private) - 11th January, 2013 : Important cosmetics changes. Bugfix for individual or assembled polygons view. More security to prevent errors. End of support of "Map" files. "Map" to NSBMD converter.
0.3 (Private) - 11th January, 2013 : Better gestion of saving functions (alpha). Refreshing the viewer after saving (alpha).
0.2 (Private) - 10th January, 2013 : 2D / 3D option (alpha). Individual or assembled polygons view (beta).
0.1 (Private) - 9th January, 2013 : DSMGE interface integrated. Improved lisibility of the viewer.



Questions / Answers :


I have modified the Map, how i can import .nsmbd into my game?


You should import the files edited into Spiky's editor.



When i try to open the tool, i've got an error message.


Check if you have all directories and files included with the tool (especially textures).



When i try to edit something, i've got an error message.


You have maybe one or multiple files corrupted ; download original files.
Also, that's maybe a bug from the software. If you think that's a bug, thanks to report it.

[shadowwalke]

First post :/

This tool looks so cool. I can't wait for this tool to be release

[Gigatom~]

Amazing, that would probably be the first 4th Gen Map Editor. Very good job.

Gigatom~

[Frankiscool]

finally, after waiting 3 years!

[Team Fail]

I officially LOVE YA. This is what we all have been waiting for. I cannot WAIT to use this! I can't see the screen, but it will be cool to play on my AceKard!

Another cool feature to throw in a later release, though, is a camera angle editor. Ya know, with the Crazy Zoom code and all...

[mindfreak]

Can this only move the big objects? (like houses and stuff)
Or can you also edit the grass/Trees?
Just asking because you didn't show us more....
(And I already knew how to change models...)

Anyway good job,
Good luck with the first 4th Gen map Editor.

[PokémonShinySilver]

Yes! It's about time! I was just about to create a map editor for the 4th generation, actually.

Looks to me like it's pretty easier than all other generations. I wish you luck with the editor, because it looks like you'd pretty much be the first to ever have a map editor for the 4th generation.

I'd might as well work on attempting to create a map editor that would edit the hex in the ROM and not have to extract the ROM in order to do so. That is... once I learn how to use Microsoft Visual Basic.

But great work, I'm not sure why no one was doing it earlier. Because this will be... the beginning of 4th Generation hacks. So we're no longer stuck in the past of 2D hacking anymore, we'll finally be able to edit 3D! YAY!


However, I'm not sure if the grass and house are in the same objects. Are they different again? Or is the grass an object?

[jota_rdk]

I think it will be a good tool. I will prove it when you publish the tool.

Greetings!

[Gigatom~]

I've got one question. How will we be able to edit the models?
Have you thought of an Editor in the Map Editor (would be more comfortable), or
how will we make them ?
I don't now anything about 3D Models and those things, so maybe this questions would be stupid ;)

[Lugiaz Soul]

I don't think thats important right now because you can still make a great game with the old models

[Team Fail]

If it's in French, I can translate. I know basic French.

[Gigatom~]

Originally Posted by Lugiaz Soul

I don't think thats important right now because you can still make a great game with the old models:)

Yeah, but it would be really nice when you can insert your own models, which would be a big difference to other games.

[Link_971]

Originally Posted by Team Fail

Another cool feature to throw in a later release, though, is a camera angle editor. Ya know, with the Crazy Zoom code and all...

Why not, but no for today!

Originally Posted by mindfreak

Can this only move the big objects? (like houses and stuff)
Or can you also edit the grass/Trees?

I work on texture editing.
For models, that's simple, but you can choose what you want for every model in the Map.

Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver

Looks to me like it's pretty easier than all other generations.
However, I'm not sure if the grass and house are in the same objects. Are they different again? Or is the grass an object?

It's more harder than 3G.
Because models (houses, buildings) and textures (grass, trees) are separate in the Map.

That's why i've made other modes.

Originally Posted by Gigatom~

I've got one question. How will we be able to edit the models?
Have you thought of an Editor in the Map Editor (would be more comfortable), or
how will we make them ?
I don't now anything about 3D Models and those things, so maybe this questions would be stupid

For models, you don't need see anything.
But you can use the fantastic Yet Another Map Viewer, if you want.

[Team Rocket's Raichu]

Originally Posted by Gigatom~

Yeah, but it would be really nice when you can insert your own models, which would be a big difference to other games.

There are plenty of great hacks that don't edit GameFreak's tiles. And if they do they look like they were made by GameFreak.

[Gigatom~]

Originally Posted by Team Rocket's Raichu

There are plenty of great hacks that don't edit GameFreak's tiles. And if they do they look like they were made by GameFreak.

I know, but it would make your game unique if you can insert your models.
And, you can imitate Game Freaks style, too.

[Binary]

The screens look very promising. I'm not a programmer myself, but I hope you get help from other programmers. Anyways, good luck.

[flash boy]

Good luck with this one. It'll be fairly interesting to see how this one turns out.

[PokémonShinySilver]

3D mapping is different from other consoles... since it's all on the Nintendo DS engine. It's gonna be so fantastic to see the first map editor.

Originally Posted by Link_971

It's more harder than 3G.
Because models (houses, buildings) and textures (grass, trees) are separate in the Map.

That's why i've made other modes.

Hm... interesting. I had a feeling the Structure Objects and Layout Objects were sepparate because when I used the Walk Through Walls code... the textures on the Layout Objects were missing on a map that was supposed to have them, which only leaves it completely white.

As for the Structure Objects... they just appear as a block with gridlines in it.

It feels as if it might be a little easier to edit D/P with a tool like a map editor... because in the 3rd generation... we haven't figured out how to add new movements to different tiles.

Some Layout Objects probably have different frames, for the different textures. Because there's some Structure Objects that have movement, like the Wind Turbines for instance, they might have the different frames for the movement, as for the flowers probably are based on the different textures.

[Gigatom~]

Originally Posted by Link_971

For models, you don't need see anything.
But you can use the fantastic Yet Another Map Viewer, if you want. :)

Haha, but maybe you can combine your Editor with knizz Yet another Map Viewer if that's possible. ;)

[Link_971]

Originally Posted by Gigatom~

Haha, but maybe you can combine your Editor with knizz Yet another Map Viewer if that's possible.

Yes, for refresh in real time, but i don't know how i can do :p


Edit : Individual texture editing works.
Now, i work on parameters (position, number of elements, lengh, width...) that's hard.





By the way, i repeat i need help for other programmers, i can't realize an complete Map Editor alone.

[mindfreak]

Cool, this is looking really good!
To bad I cant help you programming.
(I can barely program a calculator....)

Any idea when this will be released?
(Take all the time you need I'll wait.)

[Team Fail]

I wouldn't mind helping, but I have no programming experience. Can it change the song that plays on a given map?

[knizz]

Originally Posted by Link_971

Yes, for refresh in real time, but i don't know how i can do :p

Learn a bit FLTK. Read "map_editor.cpp", "map.c" and "map.h". Add some buttons in "map_editor.cpp". Let the callbacks change the values in the structures for buildings. Rewrite the map-reader so it interprets the map-model as raw data and not as a model (because model-writing doesn't work yet).

You ask me why I don't do it myself? I'm way too lazy.

PS: If you are actually interested then wait until I upload the latest version.

[Skara]

General layout Idea.

Have 2 tabs for the part with the actual map contents.
Models - Buildings, Fountains etc
Terrain - Water, Grass, Plants, Rocks etc

Also, have a built-in Event Editor so you can change the text from the program.
An In-depth Event Editor and Event Maker would also be good.

Then have the Event, Permissions and Header tab too.

If you can't do any of that, that's fine. I can help direct the layout, but I'm useless when it comes to writing a program.

[Spiky-Eared Pichu]

Originally Posted by Team Fail

I wouldn't mind helping, but I have no programming experience. Can it change the song that plays on a given map?

That would be very useful, although you can change it with PPRE. The problem is that it doesn't exist yet a list with the music values.

If you are planning to add a music chooser function to the program, I can help you by creating a list with the music values.