FireRed hack: Pokémon Celestium

[miksy91]

I counted on you in the very beginning, and I feel I was right
This will definitely be one of the hacks to play

Also, that gym looks like "trainer-free".
Are there going to be trainers in gyms ?
If so, it'd be awesome if there were for example two trainers in that gym (instead of one) because that way it wouldn't look like Brock's place (if the map is even originally Pewter Gym)...doing this many assumptions just sounds weird...

Anyway, to do so, you'd have to repoint Event Data, and possibly re-create the events (=how many warps, signposts, people are there + data for those (like picture numbers, script pointers etc.)). Also, I'm not sure how it works in advance-games but that's the way it's done in G/S/C.

Well, that's just an idea but would make the game look a lot better (and make others know you are a hacker !) :D

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by nasonex

Wow Alignment, I'm really impressed! Very nice
Updates. Now I know that you're a great advance
scripter.

I'm seeing that your progress is going very well. I
wonder what the gym holds for us? >:)

I like the looks of the gym. It's kinda metallic/machine
or modern theme? I based it on the way it looks and
the color of the metals, gray...

Anyways, another two thumbs up for this man! (b' ')b

I hope to see more and Good luck on this! :D

EDIT: And Thank you for also choosing my trainer! Appreciate it! :)

Thanks for supporting. The Gym is a more maze type thing than a big rectangle. As for the trainer, I should be thanking you. It usually takes me a good ten minutes to think of something a trainer should say (that doesn't sound cliche).

Originally Posted by ~Trebuh~

Nice work dude!
The tiles and palettes are great! Especially the cave ones.
And so is that wicked intro screen :]
The Hp bars may also need some palette editing, but it still looks good
that way. Keep it up =)

And oh I almost forgot =)
Trainer name: Ralph
Before Battle: It's just a kid!\nAnother easy win that 'ain't\lworth my time.
Defeat: I didn't see that one coming...
After Battle: I lost because i wasn't really looking..

Thanks for the support. I feel good inside when someone compliments the tiles I made :P
As for the HP box, it's pal is already edited to be brighter. I could dull it if you want, but TB[pro] did it like that.
Oh and thanks for the trainer thing, I edited the before battle a touch in the quote though :)

Originally Posted by miksy91

I counted on you in the very beginning, and I feel I was right ;)
This will definitely be one of the hacks to play :)

Also, that gym looks like "trainer-free".
Are there going to be trainers in gyms ?
If so, it'd be awesome if there were for example two trainers in that gym (instead of one) because that way it wouldn't look like Brock's place (if the map is even originally Pewter Gym)...doing this many assumptions just sounds weird...

Anyway, to do so, you'd have to repoint Event Data, and possibly re-create the events (=how many warps, signposts, people are there + data for those (like picture numbers, script pointers etc.)). Also, I'm not sure how it works in advance-games but that's the way it's done in G/S/C.

Well, that's just an idea but would make the game look a lot better (and make others know you are a hacker !) :D

Thanks, I appreciate the support. There are actually four trainer (apart from the leader), and the guy who gives you tips about the gym.
Well it's not that hard in Fire Red, lol. All I need to do is script them, changing the number of person events in A-map isn't hard at all.

It's actually an edited Viridean City Gym (Though it looks nothing like it).

Pic:


EDIT: Yay for second page :D

[nasonex]

I like the gym, It kinda reminds me of lavaridge gym and
saffron gym which has many warps. And your choice of
tiles for the gym is also great!

But there's something bugging my mind, it seems to me
that it'll be easy to get to the gym leader because of
simple patterned warps. I have a suggestion though,
you can make it like a two floor gym or a big gym like
saffrons' so that it will really be a maze like gym to
add a little spice to the game. :D

Anyways, Very nice update and I'll be sure to look onto
the next Update! Good Luck Alignment!

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by nasonex

I like the gym, It kinda reminds me of lavaridge gym and
saffron gym which has many warps. And your choice of
tiles for the gym is also great!

But there's something bugging my mind, it seems to me
that it'll be easy to get to the gym leader because of
simple patterned warps. I have a suggestion though,
you can make it like a two floor gym or a big gym like
saffrons' so that it will really be a maze like gym to
add a little spice to the game. :D

Anyways, Very nice update and I'll be sure to look onto
the next Update! Good Luck Alignment!

Yay for comment ;D
Well, it is the first gym, so I don't want to make it too tricky. The first two and last trainer battles are mandatory and the third is not, so it's not easy to get the the leader. Pic of how it works:


I thought I'd let you know the progress, scripting, mapping ect.:

Maps, scripts, events ect. :

Root Town - 100%
Route 1 - 100%
Cavern Pass - 100%
Fault Cavern - 100%
Route 2 -65% (Still need to add trainers)
Crosdon town - 100%
Route 3 - 100%
Lost Forest - 15% (I'm working on it)
Route 4 - 0%
Mayven Village - 0%
Route 5 - 0%

Sprites:
Overall - 45%
Yes, overall. There's too many sprites to go ahead and name.

When all of those hit 100 expect a beta ;D
Well that's not really considered an update. so here is one...

Updates:


The Gym leader is no Pushover. These are my Pokemon after the battle.


Fixed the carpet thing ;D


This is a trainer script thing.


same as above.


Lost Forest.

I'm working on adding more of the trainers.

[DrFuji]

Originally Posted by Alignment

Fixed the carpet thing ;D

I'm laughing at this pretty hard. In your previous screenshot you had a textbox which obscured the trees, but in this one its is revealed that once again you've used an incorrect tile. The trees are on shadows, whereas they should be on light patches XD

Also, judging from your other interior screen shots, I'm wondering why this one doesn't have a shadow running down the left side... I'll quit pointing out inaccurices and such now :x

Originally Posted by Alignment

same as above.

I didn't say this before, but I really like the vibrant tree tiles and pallets - They just pop out at correspond with the grass really well. I'm also wondering wether you have the entrance to Lost Forest in this screenshot, since I can see some mildly different tree-shadowing. If it is your entrence, I'd advise you to make it more pronounced as at this point the player could easily walk by without noticing it Yes, I know there is a sign but I feel like my point still stands :<

Anyway, this is turning out be be a nice hack. I'll still be lurking in the shadows for moar :3

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by DrFuji

I'm laughing at this pretty hard. In your previous screenshot you had a textbox which obscured the trees, but in this one its is revealed that once again you've used an incorrect tile. The trees are on shadows, whereas they should be on light patches XD

Also, judging from your other interior screen shots, I'm wondering why this one doesn't have a shadow running down the left side... I'll quit pointing out inaccurices and such now :x



I didn't say this before, but I really like the vibrant tree tiles and pallets - They just pop out at correspond with the grass really well. I'm also wondering wether you have the entrance to Lost Forest in this screenshot, since I can see some mildly different tree-shadowing. If it is your entrence, I'd advise you to make it more pronounced as at this point the player could easily walk by without noticing it Yes, I know there is a sign but I feel like my point still stands :<

Anyway, this is turning out be be a nice hack. I'll still be lurking in the shadows for moar :3

LOL, it's always the inside of houses that I miss

Thanks for the comments Dr.Fuji ;D

Sprite Updates:

OK, not really a sprite update. I was trying to make it look good, but didn't come out how I liked for it to have, so it's public D;


I'm probably going to end up making back sprites for the Fakemon the in public section that I think have the most potential to be used by other people later.

Other Updates:

http://romhacktube.com/video/UBO5DXAKS8HB/Intro-bit
The only glitch is that Charmader goes over the hero (Which I've fixed ;D )
Some of you may have already seen it. Oh and Dr.Fuji's probably going to bash me for the black text :x

Also screens of Lost Forest, and Route 4 :


Lost forest random screenshot.


Lost forest random screenshot.


Lost forest random screenshot.


Lost forest random screenshot.


Route five random screenshot.


Route five random screenshot.



Route five random screenshot.


I took the screenshot just before the YES NO box came up, so you can see everything.


I tried to make Lost Forest and Route 5 a little more laid back, because next is Mayven village, where the real action's going to start ;D
If you noticed, the pals are a tad toned down because it's cloudy.

Oh and I added a couple of the trainers from the trainer application thing, I just forgot to take screens of that ;D
I'll update the first post now.



EDIT: I've been keeping track, if you counted all the screenshots (not including sprites), I've taken a total of 50 ;D

[Binary]

About the sprite. I think that it's a pretty well made sprite. You should improve the arms a little bit, and maybe use it.

For the flowers, maybe a darker shade of blue? And the wild grass of Lost Forest should match up with the palettes you've used for the trees. So I suggest changing the palettes of the wild grass, with another grass tile and same behavior byte. Everything else looks really awesome.
I can't wait to see some scripts. I hope you update as soon as I post this. >:U

[5qwerty]

This idea seems really great.
The plot is thoughtful, though Emon sounds a bit weird.
Though I think you should improvise more on the "Emon."
I mean, if they are from another planet or something, it would be a completely different habitat. Unless you are assuming that the atmospheric and climatic conditions on Tyes are basically the same as on Earth, I suggest you change the Fakemon a bit. Speaking of Fakemon, your sprites need a little work. The excessive black outline makes it look flat, so change that. Other than that, it looks really professional.

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by Binary

About the sprite. I think that it's a pretty well made sprite. You should improve the arms a little bit, and maybe use it.

For the flowers, maybe a darker shade of blue? And the wild grass of Lost Forest should match up with the palettes you've used for the trees. So I suggest changing the palettes of the wild grass, with another grass tile and same behavior byte. Everything else looks really awesome.
I can't wait to see some scripts. I hope you update as soon as I post this. >:U

It looks too weak to be an Emon to be honest... :/

I actually was thinking the same about the flowers, but then it doesn't really fit in with the 'bright' theme in the beginning. Yeah I actually have another grass tile inserted. Would you rather the HGSS grass in there or the FR grass with a different Pal?

Thanks for the comments, and critic.

Originally Posted by 5qwerty

This idea seems really great.
The plot is thoughtful, though Emon sounds a bit weird.
Though I think you should improvise more on the "Emon."
I mean, if they are from another planet or something, it would be a completely different habitat. Unless you are assuming that the atmospheric and climatic conditions on Tyes are basically the same as on Earth, I suggest you change the Fakemon a bit. Speaking of Fakemon, your sprites need a little work. The excessive black outline makes it look flat, so change that. Other than that, it looks really professional.

It's not very often someone actually decides to read the story instead of solely judging by the screenshots. I don't want to deviate too much from the 'Pokemon' style. I think if I were to make them more sinister they wouldn't really fit in with the FR sprites and all. I know what you're saying about teh outline, I guess I should go ahead and take a second look on those sprites, thanks for the critic ;D

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So I've been working at this for a pretty long while recently. As some of you might have heard, my ROM actually crashed on Friday (not really crashed but got screwed up pretty damn badly). It was kind of my fault actually. I accidentally used Amap 1.90 to map instead of the usually 1.92. Yeah, you can guess what happened after that. My back up was over a month old and I honestly felt like quitting the project at the time. Luckily I decided to go ahead and play Pokemon Sienna. That pretty much motivated me to just update the month old back up and I stopped playing after the gay reference from the Celadon city gym.

That's about how it's been with Celestium's progress. i need up update the first post soon as well.

Sprite Updates:

OK, so I made a WIP of the hero and a possible Emon. They both need some heavy work before I actually use them.


Not sure if you can see that clearly, well it is Jpeg...I need to fix up the arms too.




Might've seen this one on one of TB pro's signatures.

Other updates:

So I realized how long it's been since I last updates to this'll be somewhat bigger than the future updates ;D


Took the screen right before the menu popped up


From now on I'm going to only comment certain screens ;D




Another script in Mayven


There's actually much more but I just didn't feel like taking 100 screens of the same event.


Maybe if you can 'CUT' the lock *hint hint* ;D




I don't want to ruin too much, so lets move on ;D


Hegotbeatup *cough*


We saw him back in Mayven too, but he didn't see you...























That's all for screenshots folks ;D
Until I get more done atleast. Before someone even suggests it, no this is not an evil team (yes OWs need to be made still). I actually like the Cave tiles here, but if you have any complaints go ahead and speak 'em ;D


EDIT: Credits to Dewitty for the red house.

[miksy91]

Making tons of backups is always a good idea...

Anyway, I don't know how corruped your main rom got but perhaps you could transfer some data from it to the older one that you're working on right now.
To do so, I'd suggest you to use Notepad (it's not that simple as notepad shows the bytes as some odd marks but you should be able to find the right spot if you make the rom even more glitched up by for example replacing all data in front of the offset you want to copy & paste to your older rom with one single byte (like 00)).

Not sure if I made sense but here is an example.
Let's say you want to transfer the data between offsets 0x19000 & 0x19A00 to your older rom.
First open the corrupted rom with hex editor and go to some offset in front of 19000 and re-write all the bytes with 00's and do the same at 19A01 -->.
Then, you should be able to find the right spot in Notepad where you just copy all the odd marks between the ones shown as 00 and paste them to the same spot in your older rom.

[5qwerty]

@Alignment
Alright, that sounds okay. Just be sure to make your ideas original.
As for the EMon, why don't you make them look a lot stronger? Or are they the "look weak but are strong" types?
Screenshots look cool, do you plan on changing the grass and flowers?

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by miksy91

Making tons of backups is always a good idea...

Anyway, I don't know how corruped your main rom got but perhaps you could transfer some data from it to the older one that you're working on right now.
To do so, I'd suggest you to use Notepad (it's not that simple as notepad shows the bytes as some odd marks but you should be able to find the right spot if you make the rom even more glitched up by for example replacing all data in front of the offset you want to copy & paste to your older rom with one single byte (like 00)).

Not sure if I made sense but here is an example.
Let's say you want to transfer the data between offsets 0x19000 & 0x19A00 to your older rom.
First open the corrupted rom with hex editor and go to some offset in front of 19000 and re-write all the bytes with 00's and do the same at 19A01 -->.
Then, you should be able to find the right spot in Notepad where you just copy all the odd marks between the ones shown as 00 and paste them to the same spot in your older rom.

Too late for that. I've already updated the back up, but thanks for the effort. Those wierd numbers & letters, I'm sure are probably in binary as well (called ASCII)

Also isn't doing that the same as copying the data from the back up to the corrupted ROM?

Originally Posted by 5qwerty

@Alignment
Alright, that sounds okay. Just be sure to make your ideas original.
As for the EMon, why don't you make them look a lot stronger? Or are they the "look weak but are strong" types?
Screenshots look cool, do you plan on changing the grass and flowers?

Yeah, I try to make my Fakemon have original concepts. They're more 'Some are weak looking and strong'. Then there are some that are 'Strong looking' and are amazingly strong

I'm debating on making an Emon-legendary type thing. It's definitely going to be quite the task if I decide to do so :/


Actually the term 'Emon' had a much more deeper meaning like Pokemon. But I honestly forgot D:
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Since last time, my idea of when to release a beta has changed. The duration of the hack so far is about 1 hour and 10 mins if you play at 350-400%. My team of 3 at the end of the current length were:
Charmeleon : Level 24
Grimer: Level 18
Oddish: Level 15
Geodude: Level 7 (HM rock smash slave :3)

So I've decided that it's going to be longer (until the point where you come face to face with your first Emon and fight it, as well as complete another Gym trial (in the form of a side quest)).

In terms of scripting and mapping here is the progress:

Root Town - 100%
Route 1 - 100%
Cavern Pass - 100%
Fault Cavern - 100%
Route 2 - 100%
Crosdon Town - 100% (1st gym)
Route 3 - 100%
Lost Forest - 90% (need to get new grass for it)
Route 4 - 100%
Mayven Village - 100% (2nd gym)
Route 5 - 90% (add one more trainer)
[Yet to come up with a name] mountain - 40% (Still need to finish the scripting and a couple more smaller maps inside it.)
Ravenna City - 0% (still an idea lol. Well the beta will end once you reach here).

Thanks for all the support guys. I'll come up with some more updates this week

[Masterge77]

Originally Posted by Alignment

Screenshots:

Spoiler:

Date Taken: 9/26/2010

Date taken : 9/28/2010

Date taken: 9/29/2010

Date taken: 9/30/2010

I love those cave tiles, did you make them yourself, because I love it when people make their own tiles for their hacks, it makes them more original!!!!!

[altariaking]

The forest, cave and gym look really awesome 0_0

Trainer name: Youngster Joey
Before Battle: My Ratatta is, like, wait...where's my Ratatta?
Pokemon used: Pidgey
Defeat: Grrr, forgot I traded it!
After Battle: My Pidgey is in the top percentage of Pidgey!

[Noxxford]

Altariaking's Youngster Joey is a silly goose. Anyways, this project looks really well-made, and I had to double-take when I saw the picture of the hero healing in a spring. Mother 3 Reference, maybe?

[CuteBunny]

The hack looks promising, though the palette of the flowers bothers me. And I really don't know why! But overall the updates are amazing. :>

[XmasterchiefX]

This hack is looking pretty good, it seems like it's going to be very good when it's finished, I liked the pokemon adoption, and your cave tiles just ROX they look very nice,and I liked the Gym, the Lavaridge Gym style are like my style. I'm looking forward for the fakemon, I luv fakemon >;D If they are good...

Signed~

[Alignment]

Hello community, I decided to drop back in and throw out some progress that I made. I didn't really work on this as much as I'd like, but I did have some time here and there. Firstly I'm gonna address some of the comments because well, that seems important. More than likely these people don't even get on anymore.

Originally Posted by Masterge77

I love those cave tiles, did you make them yourself, because I love it when people make their own tiles for their hacks, it makes them more original!!!!!

Thanks, worked hard on them glad people appreciate :)

Originally Posted by altariaking

The forest, cave and gym look really awesome 0_0

Trainer name: Youngster Joey
Before Battle: My Ratatta is, like, wait...where's my Ratatta?
Pokemon used: Pidgey
Defeat: Grrr, forgot I traded it!
After Battle: My Pidgey is in the top percentage of Pidgey!

Thanks for the compliments. I'll be sure to use your trainer suggestion

Originally Posted by Noxxford

Altariaking's Youngster Joey is a silly goose. Anyways, this project looks really well-made, and I had to double-take when I saw the picture of the hero healing in a spring. Mother 3 Reference, maybe?

No, I have no idea what Mother 3 is lol
On the more obvious side you can do this in Fire Red near the place you find moltres (names escape me right now).

Originally Posted by CuteBunny

The hack looks promising, though the palette of the flowers bothers me. And I really don't know why! But overall the updates are amazing. :>

Hmmm.. perhaps if I know what exactly bothers you I could try to do something. Thanks for compliments!

Originally Posted by XmasterchiefX

This hack is looking pretty good, it seems like it's going to be very good when it's finished, I liked the pokemon adoption, and your cave tiles just ROX they look very nice,and I liked the Gym, the Lavaridge Gym style are like my style. I'm looking forward for the fakemon, I luv fakemon >;D If they are good...

Signed~

Thanks for compliments I'll try do my best :D

Sprite Updates:

Some people may have already seen this, but it's the first line of Emon.


The fire one was already revealed, so here are the other two.


Girl rival, I still need to work on my trainer sprites in general :/


This is the first gym leader. I don't think I've actually shown this, though it was done ages ago.


Totempole/happybear fakemon it's weird so I won't be using it. You can have it :)

Progress Updates:

An event at the bottom of Lava Mountain.


He run away, cause that's what evil dudes do.


Moment of truth, the battle!


You will come to love this random kid. I have a habit of putting him in just to say random things.


Outside the mountian. Freedom!


Route outside


He's depressed, you can tell.


Definitely depressed


Met Loyd again, some event/character building going on.


The second HM of the game is obtained by beating Loyd the second time. If you fail to beat him, then you gotta walk back from last Pokecenter and it'll be on the floor.


Next town, there's the little kid again :P

I'll be updating more frequently from now, for those who want to see the older screenshots I've updated the first post with the older screens. I'm still working on the next town right now, it shouldn't be too long before I finish that part.

On the sadder note, I was messing around with the adopt a Pokemon script and it got messed up so I still need to fix it up again.

[gam3r!]

Hey man. Your project looks interesting great story, nice tiles and the extra story thing sounds good. Also how many fakemon are you planning to add ?

[Truality]

Celestium is back!? That's great!

I don't really get your update quota, though. Did you have screenshots between the text lines? Because if you did, I don't see any. Anyway, I'd love to sprite for you again if you're really going to resume work on this. Good luck!

[Ash493]

Wow... long time no see o.O I can't believe someone actually came back to do 2 years old project =D

[Alignment]

Originally Posted by gam3r!

Hey man. Your project looks interesting great story, nice tiles and the extra story thing sounds good. Also how many fakemon are you planning to add ?

Thanks for the compliments. I'm not sure about how many I want to have exactly, but definitely not too many. I'm not making a full dex, maybe 1/2 a dex or something.

Originally Posted by Truality

Celestium is back!? That's great!

I don't really get your update quota, though. Did you have screenshots between the text lines? Because if you did, I don't see any. Anyway, I'd love to sprite for you again if you're really going to resume work on this. Good luck!

NIKA! I thought you died D:
Sure I'd love to have you back helping me. I think I know why you couldn't see the screenshots. I uploaded them to a private album in PC, I made it public now, hopefully everyone can see.

Originally Posted by Ash493

Wow... long time no see o.O I can't believe someone actually came back to do 2 years old project =D

You're making me feel old :(

Sprite Update:

I'm gonna have to go back and tweak the shading on it's snout/head, but other than that I think it came about pretty cool-ish. Feel free to critic :)

Progress Update:

I finished the town and realized that screenshots are the biggest spoilers in the world. So I'll just post some minor-ish ones


Granny in the town. Gotta have a granny talking about something old ;D


To be honest it doesn't do anything in game. I've been deciding on whether to leave it that way. I think it'd be cool if I made it increase the happiness of the first party Pokemon, but not sure if that's a good idea.


A pic in front of the gym, it's on it's own mountain/platform :D


There's a market for Pokemon purchasing in this town. Though it's run by the government. FYI I WILL CHANGE THE ROCKET OWs! THEY'RE NOT TEAM ROCKET I REPEAT THEY'RE NOT TEAM ROCKET. Sorry, gotta make sure someone doesn't waste time thinking they're team rocket :P


Lady at the desk giving me information.


Helen's idea of punishment for having an invalid membership.


That's all for this update folks! Once I finish the Gym I'll drop by again. Hopefully everyone can see the screenshots now as I changed the album from private to public. Please let me know and thanks for all the comments so far :)

[DarkRisingGirl]

It's great to see someone come back after so long and finish a hack. Goodluck on this!

[RetroRoller]

I probably wasn't around when you showcased this before, but it looks brill! Big fan of a lot of the features of this... tiles and the like

Also:


Is that an Everybody hates Chris reference? The guy called Jerome always used to say lemme hold a dollar! :D

[Ash493]

@Ali: Well sry about that =D But it is true anyways =D