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Old February 11th, 2011 (07:13 PM). Edited February 18th, 2011 by Meduza.
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As the premiere of Pokémon's newest season, Pokémon: Black & White!, is set to air tomorrow, I thought a thread should be made a little earlier than usual for such a big event.

There will be two episodes playing, making it an hour special; "In The Shadow of Zekrom!" and "Enter Iris and Axew!".

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In The Shadow of Zekrom!:
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Ash has arrived in the Unova region, along with Pikachu, his mom, and Professor Oak. Their new adventures get off to a rocky start when Pikachu gets hit by a bolt of lightning from a freak storm! With aid from Professor Juniper, Unova's preeminent scientist, Pikachu apparently recovers fully. But something is amiss when Pikachu enters battle against a new foe and his fascinating Pokémon...


Enter Iris and Axew!:
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Pikachu's mysterious affliction seems to have passed, but more trouble is on the way! It hasn't taken long for Team Rocket to launch new plans to steal Pokémon in the Unova region. In quick order, Ash catches his first Pokémon in the new area, as well as meets Iris and her Pokémon Axew. But right away Team Rocket is there to nab all of these newly discovered Pokémon!


It is set to air February 12th, 2011, at 9:00 A.M (Check your local listings as air times may vary).
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Old February 12th, 2011 (05:49 AM).
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Old February 12th, 2011 (06:10 AM).
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...WHO'S THAT POKEMON!?

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Old February 12th, 2011 (06:11 AM).
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Did they really bring back "Who's that Pokemon?" Nonsense and once again the dub murders the Japanese opening
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Old February 12th, 2011 (06:24 AM).
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Old February 12th, 2011 (06:35 AM).
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I miss "Who's that pokemon".

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Ok, I've officially had it with Ash at this point. He's an expert pokemon trainer. A goddam expert. There is no reason, none at all, that they have him losing to an utter rookie. The kid literally just got his first pokemon. HIS VERY FIRST. And Ash loses to him pitifully.

Granted, Pikachu was sick, and couldn't use Electric moves. But when the hell? How many masters did Ash beat? How much experience can an unaging ten year old face before he can fight a rookie who never caught a pokemon? And they keep doing this. At least with Paul, he was already an expert trainer. It gets a little hard to keep up when they don't really bother with consistency with their main characters.-


Still though, all in all, it was a pretty good episode. I have high hopes for this season. I didn't care for the last season. The whole Shinoh region was...meh. Couldn't stand Dawn, least favorite of the 3.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (06:59 AM).
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In the Shadow of Zekrom

Spoiler:
  • Let's see... same kind of first episode intro
  • AGH CRAP?! 10 YEARS OLD!? Screw off, narrator >__>
  • Un-uveh Region? I thought it was U-no-vah
  • Team Rocker~
  • Awesomeness
  • Flying boats and drowning planes, everybody
  • YES! BEGINNING KEPT!
  • And as predicted, different song.
  • ...that was short.
  • At least it wasn't some rap.
  • Prepare for trouble, make it do-
  • XD Team Rocket hasn't lost their touch in the dub, though
  • Whoops, spoke too early
  • Electromagnetic Discharge Communication Moment
  • IRIS!
  • AXEW!
  • Cute~
  • Everything's normal? Did you not just see blue lightning everywhere and those ominous black clouds?
  • Lol, the Mamepato kept their cry~
  • "I have som questions for you, Professor" -a sexy Professor
  • Looks like all the cries aren't quire horrible this time
  • OMFG WHO'S THAT POKEMON?!
  • ...
  • Pidove!
  • Nuvema Town? That's a weird name.
  • LolTrip
  • ...Is that Paul in a messed up Team Rocket disguise?
  • Boonies? Wtf is that?
  • "Nice and firey" Everybody!
  • SMUGLEAF'D
  • Dexter is awesome this generation.
  • I have a feeling Ash lost a little bit of maturity and IQ after that storm.
  • "You wanna see?" o________O
  • "Why are you always taking pictures?"
  • Quick Fail!
  • Thunderfail!
  • Volt Fail!
  • Iron Fail!
  • And that's the way the cookie crumbles
  • ...
  • ..lol I feel like playing the CN Pokemon games ;_;
  • Electrical Overload? Feels like a dirty joke waiting to rise.
  • You're making Zekrom sound like something above Arceus >__>
  • You know what cartoon network? I hate you. Stop taking away my endings.



Enter Iris and Axew!

Spoiler:
  • "All because of that Lightning" No DUH
  • Special CG effects this time~
  • Has Pikachu gotten fatter?
  • "Your not a little kid?" You're still 10! You're still a damn elementary schooler in the US system! >__>
  • Trust me Delia, we can't wait either
  • Pokemon!?
  • ...POKEBALL!!!
  • "You can't find anything this jiggly in Unova!"
  • Kanonko Town? Why was that in the CC?
  • Team Rocket...
  • Deerling >__>
  • Yeah, Ash's IQ dropped by 50
  • ^__^ Down here
  • Cute Iris <3
  • The CC seems to appear a bit messed up at times...
  • When Pidoves ATTACK!
  • BAM!
  • That was TreeSlam Fail!
  • New Motto!
  • Lol, how can you talk? Iris's been the only one to question that for a while
  • Ash is a living Mankey!
  • Yeah... no way.
  • Black Smoke DISAPPARATION!
  • Oshawott's a stalking ^__^


As Iris said, A LOT could have gone so much worse. I think the season premier was kicked off very well.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:06 AM). Edited February 12th, 2011 by Blue_Drifblim.
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I thought this was an awesome introduction. Iris is funny, and Oshawott is as cute/hilarious as ever. No TR rhyming, all of the original music was kept..... It was great.

And "Who's that Pokemon?" returning? I don't think anybody saw that coming.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:11 AM).
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The Black and White opening is one of the best in my oppinion. I was not seeing whos that pokemon come back but it should help us learn the names a little faster. I love the new Bad a Team Rocket.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:15 AM).
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Ash is still 10, ftw ! ! !
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:20 AM).
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:31 AM).
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I couldn't have been the only one to expect the Pokerap at the end.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (07:55 AM).
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Gah, I can't wait to watch this! :D
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Old February 12th, 2011 (08:17 AM).
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The who's that Pokemon is back! I was so happy when I saw this. Also Trip sounds like Paul in this. The opening wasn't that bad. They cut out the whole entire intro from the Jap but that's fine for me. I'll give this episode a approval thumbs up.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (08:36 AM).
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OMFG!! I missed it :{, I can catch the first episode tmw but not the second
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Old February 12th, 2011 (08:55 AM). Edited February 12th, 2011 by okjoek.
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Hip Hip Hurray! B/W finaly aired today =)

I kind of like Iris's voice, she reminds me of misty in atitude, but more comical. She seems in an opposite possition to ash as may was so I guess you can relate it to her. Iris is probably my second favourite to may. with misty in third and dawn in fourth =P
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Whos that poke'mon? LOVE IT! Thanks for returning it! Since I dont know any of the english names yet it makes it fun!
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Team rocket is now totaly badass! the battle against ash and iris was actualy giving me a feeling of excitement, unlike most of the sinnoh saga. And the rival is still a jurk which gives you motivation to watch Ash beat him at some point, But paul was still better than him I'm sure. Paul would kick his ass and then make him feel like the little newb =P
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Things I dislike:

Why is the intro so small? I dont think they put very much effort into it. And I think its the 2nd pokemon into I've ever heard with a Womans voice in it, not that it means very much. I still dont understand why they nerfed a nice long intro into like 20 seconds!
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Ash acted like a n00b infront of Iris,I mean your probably 5 years or so since you left for your first journy with misty, I'd Imaging you could remember how to catch a wild pokemon unless some luggage on that plane fell and hit you on the head.
However I do respect they should kick off the new season with tips for people just getting into pokemon. It helps in its own way.

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Well thats all I can think of off the top of my head but so far it's exciting, could probably be my favorite since hoenn!
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Old February 12th, 2011 (09:17 AM).
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This can easily be merged with the episode discussion thread.

The episodes are airing right now, so I'll post my thoughts soon.
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I hope these new threads aren't a weekly thing since we already have a thread here discussing the same thing. Seems like a bunch of clutter imo. My thoughts on the Dub are Opening song is horrible and compared to the Japanese version they don't gradually release the pokemon in silhouette. As for the voices I thought they were all good, especially Trip voice.

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I found it was funny when said something like "You have grown up so much" or "next time I see you you'll be all grown up"

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OMFG!! I missed it :{, I can catch the first episode tmw but not the second
I wouldn't worry too much they will probably re-air it or when they get enough episodes they will have them as a week day line up.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (09:26 AM).
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I really love the voice of Iris. It totally fits her character.

And they did bring back the "Who's that Pokemon". omg, my childhood has returned.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (09:34 AM).
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Over all I loved the episodes very much. Only two things killed me, and made me want to rage , the first 10 seconds of the episode, the narrator says ash is still 10 years old, and ash loses to a starting trainer. Come on, Ash still could use iron tail, and quick attack. That leaf tornado move was crap to, snivy does not learn that till around 16 I believe. But once again the new series was overall great, and I hope to enjoy the rest of it.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (09:48 AM).
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The concept of level does not directly correlate with a video games. Even though it has been mentioned in episodes like The School of Hard Knocks. If levels really did come in too play then Ash Pikachu would be at or around 100 and Trip Snivy would be at 5. And a level 5 could do almost no damage too a 100, but in the anime that is not the case.
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I hope these new threads aren't a weekly thing since we already have a thread here discussing the same thing.
where have you been? We've had separate threads for English and Japanese discussions for quite a while now. That probably wouldn't be so if the episodes aired closer to each other, but that's not the case.

I can only imagine how excited all the kids are right now when they saw these episodes. :)

Wow, they actually brought back who's that Pokemon. The voices are all great, and it looks like TPCi decided to keep Team Rocket serious, and completely overhauled their dialogue. These were two great episodes, I can't wait to learn the names of all the new Pokemon.
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where have you been? We've had separate threads for English and Japanese discussions for quite a while now. That probably wouldn't be so if the episodes aired closer to each other, but that's not the case.

I can only imagine how excited all the kids are right now when they saw these episodes.

Wow, they actually brought back who's that Pokemon. The voices are all great, and it looks like TPCi decided to keep Team Rocket serious, and completely overhauled their dialogue. These were two great episodes, I can't wait to learn the names of all the new Pokemon.
Not in the Pokemon Anime SubForum when Sinnoh League was being aired in both US and Japan so yeah... Team Rocket may be serious, as we all know since we are following them up to BW018 but the new Motto sounds horrible like the Opening Song.
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Not in the Pokemon Anime SubForum when Sinnoh League was being aired in both US and Japan so yeah...
Are you talking about the DP saga or the Sinnoh League tournament? The tournament episodes all had separate threads.

The opening isn't that bad. I'm happy that it's short for once.
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Old February 12th, 2011 (10:17 AM). Edited February 12th, 2011 by sims796.
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The concept of level does not directly correlate with a video games. Even though it has been mentioned in episodes like The School of Hard Knocks. If levels really did come in too play then Ash Pikachu would be at or around 100 and Trip Snivy would be at 5. And a level 5 could do almost no damage too a 100, but in the anime that is not the case.
Very true, but there must be at least some consistency, which is fustratingly ignored. We have a guy who won leagues, beaten leaders of many different regions, yet he loses so pitifully to a brand new trainer who's pokemon has never had a battle before. What happend to all that progress? I get that Pikachu wasn't fighting at his full, but still.

On the plus side, they did away with all the glowing for every attack. I really like what they did with Iron Tail.
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