[General] 5th Generation Pokémon Hacking/Information Consolidation - Page 4

ChimeraReiax · #76 March 1st, 2011, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail

Yes, loop points can be added. I'm still trying to comprehend it.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpos...43&postcount=5

Wrote up a little guide-ish thing on how to edit current loops, actually. :3

However, as that pastebin says, I can't make heads or tails with track offsets...

Putin · #77 March 12th, 2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChimeraReiax

but yes, since the overworld sprites of 494+ would be unable to be present unless they already had overworld sprites, and Nintendo probably would have overwritten that code. Then again, it IS possible that the code itself wasn't so consuming to the game and they just disabled it, but that's not exactly too likely. Still, a guy can dream.

Not all, but most (maybe all, but we only see most) of the 649 Pokémon have overworld sprites for the High-Link (Entralink).

As for the maps, they seem to be identical in behaviour, with the exception of a simple script like an archaic form of the common camera rotation feature in nearly every 3D game, except scripted, as was also present in HG, to the DPPt maps, which, IIRC, are GameCube 3D format maps. I am aware that a tool is in the works here for editing fourth and fifth gen maps, but tools that would work already exist, and I buggered around with the idea of making a Valve Hammer plugin for it, since I am familiar with Hammer.

The bit that makes me sigh is the thought of those sprites. There's really two options: To take out the animation and have static sprites, or to animate every Fakémon or future backport you want to do. Three thousand five hundred frames later...

The 100 Mega Shock · #78 March 14th, 2011, 06:47 PM

Only the previous generation Pokémon have Entralink OW sprites.

Anyway, you're overlooking a much bigger problem.

Pokémon sprites in BW are not frame-by-frame animation. They're segmented pieces drawn on a 256 x 128 map, stitched together by the engine in-game and animated using part swapping, auto transformation/rotation/scaling and moving each segment individually.

So, good luck hacking all that.

knizz · #79 March 14th, 2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Putin

...DPPt maps, which, IIRC, are GameCube 3D format maps. I am aware that a tool is in the works here for editing fourth and fifth gen maps, but tools that would work already exist, and I buggered around with the idea of making a Valve Hammer plugin for it, since I am familiar with Hammer.

I worked a lot on an editor for 4/5th Gen but I doubt there will ever be a working editor. (In other words. There isn't any "in the works") There isn't enough known about the bmd-format but also

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Originally Posted by smurph717

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Originally Posted by knizz

Do you know another way to map the materials of a map to the materials of a btx-file without comparing the name?
Is this data "repointable"? (what is an indicator for the position of this data)

yeah i found out how to do that, it required some disassembly but it turns out that data is actually lz77 compressed in the arm9.bin file somewhere, i'll dump it soon and share it with you.
unfortunately the data isn't repointable, it's decompressed into static memory that's present for the entire game (the data is loaded even before the intro/title screen) and the address is hard coded into the game in multiple areas. i can tell you where its loaded in memory while running and i can tell you how to edit the data, recompress it, and replace it in the arm9.bin file though. give me a couple days though cuz i haven't touched anything pokemon related in like a month due to school and getting a job for the summer and other crap.

He hasn't answered eversince (last login in january). I still wonder how he found out...

But there's another way to edit maps. You can load them through my tools. Import them in 3ds max. And then use nintendos official tools to convert them back. (use G3DCVTR as keyword when searching)

The connection between mesh and textures however is hardcoded.

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock

...Pokémon sprites in BW are not frame-by-frame animation. They're segmented pieces drawn on a 256 x 128 map, stitched together by the engine in-game and animated using part swapping, auto transformation/rotation/scaling and moving each segment individually...

Wow. How do you know?

The 100 Mega Shock · #80 March 16th, 2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by knizz

Wow. How do you know?

Someone else was kind enough to rip all the textures.

ChimeraReiax · #81 March 16th, 2011, 10:52 PM

yay

Now to see if a program can be written to re-point files in .SDATs so longer/larger tracks can be injected (note: there's over 56,000 pointers). x_x

Potatomuffin · #82 March 18th, 2011, 04:37 AM

ok english rom's out, anyone else doing r/d?

CrystalTile2 not working for anyone else(on b/w)? any fixes?

Team Fail · #83 March 18th, 2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Potatomuffin

ok english rom's out, anyone else doing r/d?

CrystalTile2 not working for anyone else(on b/w)? any fixes?

I have it working. I just haven't had the time to look. I am curious about one thing though.
EDIT: It seems all the debug images are still in the game, unmodified.

Putin · #84 March 18th, 2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock

Someone else was kind enough to rip all textures. (link)

You will have to pardon me if I am being dense, but I see nothing about OW sprites there, which are what I was talking about, and which seem to work as always. Battle sprites aren't really an issue if your goal is to re-implement the following script/feature.

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Originally Posted by knizz

I worked a lot on an editor for 4/5th Gen but I doubt there will ever be a working editor. (In other words. There isn't any "in the works") There isn't enough known about the bmd-format but also

Ah, I was mistaken. I recalled seeing a thread here and hearing rumours in another community, but I suppose it was the discontinued project you speak of.

Anyway, no information is unobtainable. The code was made by humans, and humans can decode it. Granted, perhaps hacking a Pokémon game is not the most likely thing to incite majour effort to decode such a thing.

pichu2000 · #85 March 18th, 2011, 09:46 PM

Hi, if this can help in this research, i make a list containing all the header of the functions.c with their location in memory.
For some, i find also the file called when the function is executed.
Here's my list

Spoiler:

Ardorin · #86 March 18th, 2011, 11:20 PM

Has anybody found the location of the trainer back sprites?

knizz · #87 March 19th, 2011, 12:04 PM

Great list pichu2000.
How did you make it?

pichu2000 · #88 March 19th, 2011, 12:22 PM

I dump all the overlay.bin, and i uncompress them with crystaltile. Then i open all and i wrote all the .c functions that i find.
Then i used desmume debugger to find the called file. During emulation into slow VRAM part((200000-300000) the game load first the function and after(it's not easy to find) the file used from the function. I don't know if all the function work at the same way, but for now all the called file are exact.( For example zonedata.c called a 0 1 2.narc that contain effectively the map properties list.)

Do you wanna help me in this research?

Team Fail · #89 March 19th, 2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pichu2000

I dump all the overlay.bin, and i uncompress them with crystaltile. Then i open all and i wrote all the .c functions that i find.
Then i used desmume debugger to find the called file. During emulation into slow VRAM part((200000-300000) the game load first the function and after(it's not easy to find) the file used from the function. I don't know if all the function work at the same way, but for now all the called file are exact.( For example zonedata.c called a 0 1 2.narc that contain effectively the map properties list.)

Do you wanna help me in this research?

That's awesome. I hope to see that list complete- I'd love to tinker around with the game.

pichu2000 · #90 March 19th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Yes, but i need help because it's very difficult find the called file.
Someone wanna help me or not?

The 100 Mega Shock · #91 March 20th, 2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Putin

You will have to pardon me if I am being dense, but I see nothing about OW sprites there, which are what I was talking about, and which seem to work as always. Battle sprites aren't really an issue if your goal is to re-implement the following script/feature.

I was referring to Putin's comment about adding different sprites or Pokémon into BW.

Hellcat · #92 March 21st, 2011, 10:45 AM

Ok guys.

It's been some time since the releases of all the B/W roms, and still I'm asking a very important question about the B/W hack.

I know it's possible, but it seems no-one can explain how to do this.

I mean this : youtube.com/watch?v=FvvUjuFQMBA

I want to know how to :

- change trainer's overworld sprite
- change trainer's mugshot (sprite in the "VS" screen, just as the battle start)
- change trainer's in-battle sprite (most important, the rest is optionnal)

As you can see in the video, it's possible. So, anyone can tell how the heck this guy made this ?

I'm not sure if I post this in the right section BTW.

ystiang · #93 March 22nd, 2011, 06:34 AM

Are Pokemon sprites edit possible now?
Maybe from animated to fixed?

I know it stored at ROM a/0/0/4......
Any program or software can be extract and reinsert sprites?

tpmrpg · #94 March 22nd, 2011, 11:12 PM

how do you open all the files in the ROM like a/0/0/4 for example cause tahaxan won't open them.

Team Fail · #95 March 27th, 2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tpmrpg

how do you open all the files in the ROM like a/0/0/4 for example cause tahaxan won't open them.

Try a complete unpack with DSlazy, but if you want individual files, try CrystalTile.

Sabi96 · #96 March 31st, 2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamer2020

If only you could see the other things I didn't feel like taking screens of...

How did you do this??? Can you send me the files of Zekrom and Reshiram? Or tell me how to get it

iAreMudkipz · #97 April 1st, 2011, 12:58 AM

Hi,
I've read a couple of tutorials on how to use CrytalTile 2. I've been trying to hack Black and White OWs.
I've gotten this far.
I need help =/

pokefan345 · #98 April 1st, 2011, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock

Pokémon sprites in BW are not frame-by-frame animation. They're segmented pieces drawn on a 256 x 128 map, stitched together by the engine in-game and animated using part swapping, auto transformation/rotation/scaling and moving each segment individually.

Wow. My respect for the developers at Nintendo just skyrocketed.

BlahISuck · #99 April 3rd, 2011, 02:44 AM

I've been hex editing for a short amount of time, and know next to nothing about how to do things properly. I've been looking into editing pokemon moves and what each byte does, how many bytes it takes to describe a move, etc. I've been cross analyzing segments that I think are specific moves, but I don't know where each move starts. Here's such a segment:

Surf: 53 53 48 00 00 00 0A 00 02 5F 64 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

I am not sure whether or not a move starts with 53 53, but it seems like a trend, and I'm just using it as a starting point to centre all my records around. I've also recorded Psychic, Waterfall, Earthquake, Discharge, Flamethrower, and Cut in this way. I am positive of certain bytes that contain type, effect, power, accuracy, and pp.

The trouble is that I'm new to this business, and don't understand how to improve my efficiency. Hopefully this is a shoutout to everybody that's working on the same thing or has a better understanding of this than I do.

Btw, the attack info is stored at a/0/2/1. This is not completely my work, I didn't know where the attacks were stored until I found out on a certain post after scouring random forums.

FlameEntei · #**100** April 3rd, 2011, 02:47 AM

Anyone figure out how to edit the Wild Pokemon in routes. Or is Drayano the only one who has figured it out?

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