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Old June 13th, 2011, 07:36 PM
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I would like a suggestion for a moveset for my Stunfisk. Yes, I'm using a Stunfisk. I like Stunfisk. He's actually doing pretty well for me. I bred him to know Earth Power, which I am DEFINITELY keeping. Here's what I was thinking:

Earth Power
Thunderbolt
Sludge Bomb
Sandstorm

Give me your advice, please.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:41 PM
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im new to online battles(really havnt even done it but will have wifi soon), currently care more about the pokemon i want to use more than the universal best so dont suggest more

right now i have a delima between these 2

havnt thought of a snappy name for him
Breloom, Adament(took me 50+ eggs to get this then got a female, so if any1 wants 1 i can trade a baby later)
EVs: att, HP
Passive: poison heal
Item: Toxic orb
facade
pump up
spore
worry seed(just to get rid of hassle some passives)

"CritHappens"
Primape, adament
EVs: att, speed
passive: vital spirit
item: razor claw
cross chop
focus energy
ice punch(for flying)
-----------this spot i really cant decide, drain punch or substitute would be good i guess, all the dark moves are bad since they r low dmg apart from beat up(requiring full party) or payback(shouldnt be out sped that often)
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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:48 PM
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Breloom would be far more useful than Primape, to be honest. I've heard a lot about the SubTO/GigaDrain/Drain Punch(?) version, and it would do you a lot more greater service than Primeape would. Plus, with sub up, you could also get a focus punch in too, which again, makes breloom a lot more useful.

Watch out for things like gliscor though, when you're using it.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 09:18 PM
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i dont see why u would have giga drain and drain punch, u cant use both at 1ce and punch will do so much more dmg

critape bypasses all def boosts on the other hand, im running out of other pokemon so i might just use both, breloom as a normal sweeper, primape as a tank breaker
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Old June 13th, 2011, 09:29 PM
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Primeape isn't very good. It's a little too weak and a little too slow to be a powerhouse and it can't take hits very well. It's a pretty poor Fighting-type. Also, relying on critical hits is very risky. In general, relying on getting good luck is not a very good strategy.

Breloom is definitely a lot better. Even though it lacks Speed and has rather average bulk (if that), Spore, Substitute, Seed Bomb, Focus Punch, Facade, and Leech Seed all work very well together. How you mix and match them is really up to you. In my view, the Breloom with the best damage potential is the Spore Puncher, which uses Spore, Focus Punch, Seed Bomb, and Facade, though Stone Edge can be thrown in ahead of one of the latter two attacks. It takes some prediction to use which is good because as a new player, you can practice prediction which is an important skill to develop. If you predict right though, it's a terror...or at least it used to be. It's been a very long time since I've used one.

Also, if this is for Gen 5 as I assume it is, Technician Breloom will be released at some point which is good for Swords Dance + Mach Punch glory. You'd have to ask a Dream World player how good it is though.

Do you know of Pokemon Online? There, you can test teams in battle simulations, which is great so that you don't waste time making a WiFi team that might end up being kind of average.

Lastly, this belongs in the Simple Q&A sticky at the top of the forum, so I'll move it there.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 10:33 PM
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thx, still trying to learn the forums, its kinda hard to determine were i should put some of my posts

how much is really worrying about chance though? with using an item that gives crit, a move that gives crit, then a move that often crits, wouldnt u be near 50% crit rate after that? and if u max speed then primape is up there near 100


and ya just downloaded pokemon online, ive got my primape, gardevoire, misdreveous, sandslash, and breloom all pluged in just trying to find that 6th atm, would have to find a replacement for primape too i guess

currently on HG but will be getting b/w soon, so cant catch any of them yet
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Old June 13th, 2011, 11:01 PM
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I would like a suggestion for a moveset for my Stunfisk. Yes, I'm using a Stunfisk. I like Stunfisk. He's actually doing pretty well for me. I bred him to know Earth Power, which I am DEFINITELY keeping. Here's what I was thinking:

Earth Power
Thunderbolt
Sludge Bomb
Sandstorm

Give me your advice, please.
Sludge Bomb doesn't give much coverage. Sandstorm is best left to Tyranitar or Hippowdon. Stunfisk is more of a defensive Pokemon, glancing from its stats:
-Discharge
-Earth Power
-Scald/Toxic
-Rest
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/188 SDef
Item: Leftovers
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Old June 14th, 2011, 05:30 AM
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how much is really worrying about chance though? with using an item that gives crit, a move that gives crit, then a move that often crits, wouldnt u be near 50% crit rate after that? and if u max speed then primape is up there near 100
It's still not very good to rely on critical hits. Why? Well, yes, the 50% sounds good (idk how much it really is - it might be smaller than 50% but I'm too lazy to check) but in retrospect it's the same as Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch's accuracy, and people don't use those moves because they don't want to rely on bad accuracy. It's still a fifty percent chance for you to ~not~ get that crit and it's also assuming that you're gonna get a KO with that crit, otherwise you're going to take tons of damage from their attack since Primeape is so frail. Plus that also requires you to use a turn for Focus Energy where you could take a huge hit, and it's also got middling speed so lots of Pokemon outspeed it still. I'd much rather use a more reliable stat-upper (like, say, Bulk Up Toxicroak or Swords Dance Lucario), since you know 100% for sure they'll be packing more damage the next turn, whereas relying on crits nets you the same result only half of the time. :(
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Old June 15th, 2011, 03:24 AM
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Are there any good movesets for each of the 5 Rotom formes?
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Old June 15th, 2011, 03:41 AM
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im so tired of getting bullied in wifi battles pokemon white version iv iv trained and ev trained why am i still getting squashed?
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:41 AM
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Are there any good movesets for each of the 5 Rotom formes?
The Rotom formes are rather poop with the exceptions of Rotom-W who benefited.


Rotom-W@Leftovers
112 HP / 252 SpA / 144 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt / Volt Switch / Discharge
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Standard tank set.

Rotom-W@Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt / Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Fire/Ice]
- Trick

choice set.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:50 AM
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Are there any good movesets for each of the 5 Rotom formes?
Mostly what D_A said. The sets for the others are basically the same with their key moves in over those anyway. I mean, if you're looking for a specific typing in those mons you can use them but otherwise I'd try to stay away from Rotom formes unless you're using Rotom-W.

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im so tired of getting bullied in wifi battles pokemon white version iv iv trained and ev trained why am i still getting squashed?
Then you're probably not using good movesets, getting outpredicted, or just outplayed. You can't get bullied in Pokemon, you just lose. ;-;

If you're tired of losing then the only way to win is to practice and get better. Everyone loses a lot when they first start, especially if they just started thinking competitively.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:56 AM
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Then you're probably not using good movesets, getting outpredicted, or just outplayed. You can't get bullied in Pokemon, you just lose.

If you're tired of losing then the only way to win is to practice and get better. Everyone loses a lot when they first start, especially if they just started thinking competitively.
Adding onto this, your team might not be optimal in which case you should post a RMT.

That and there is the tutoring program stickied here which maybe be helpful to you.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM
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hows my set for landorus?
landorus @ muscle band
nature: hardy ( not the best but its the only landorus in the game)
4 HP 252 Attack 252 Speed
trait: sand force

stone edge
u turn
earthquake
brick break
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:51 PM
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hows my set for landorus?
landorus @ muscle band
nature: hardy ( not the best but its the only landorus in the game)
4 HP 252 Attack 252 Speed
trait: sand force

stone edge
u turn
earthquake
brick break
with that kind of set, it'd be good to use choice scarf (good with u-turn) as well as hammer arm >> brick break (you won't be staying in so the speed drop is negligible). also jolly nature would be preferred but if you can't get it i guess it's better than a -spe nature. choice band is also usable too.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 07:55 AM
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I need a good moveset for my mew and mewtwo double battle team. So far the moveset of mew is Reflect, sunny day,fireblast and solar beam. Mewtwo is completely untouched territory so has all the moves it comes with when caught. Help please!!
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Old June 18th, 2011, 08:05 AM
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need a good move set for my dw nidoking

nidoking @?
nature: Bold
evs hp/4 att/252 speed/252
sheer force

mega horn
?
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any thought would be appreciated
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Old June 18th, 2011, 09:30 AM
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I need a good moveset for my mew and mewtwo double battle team. So far the moveset of mew is Reflect, sunny day,fireblast and solar beam. Mewtwo is completely untouched territory so has all the moves it comes with when caught. Help please!!
Mew@Life Orb / Leftovers
Timid Nature [+Spe; -Atk]
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Nasty Plot
- Psyshock / Psychic
- Aura Sphere
- Fire Blast / Shadow Ball

Mewtwo@Life Orb
Timid Nature [+SpA; -Atk]
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Psystrike
- Aura Sphere
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Calm Mind / Ice Beam

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need a good move set for my dw nidoking

nidoking @?
nature: Bold
evs hp/4 att/252 speed/252
sheer force

mega horn
?
?
?



any thought would be appreciated
Nidoking's Sheer Force only boosts moves that have side-effects, and I believe it only works on moves with flinch or major status changes with them (i.e. Burn, Poison, etc). His special movepool offers the most moves for abusing this boost, and Sheer Force also prevents Life Orb recoil, so use that:

Nidoking@Life Orb
Timid or Modest Nature [+Spe; -Atk] or [+SpA; -Atk] respectively
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast
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Old June 18th, 2011, 01:20 PM
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Hi,
I just wanted some advice on some good EV spreads, movesets and natures on the pokemon stated: Amoongus, Elecktross, Hydreigon and Tornadus
Thanks a lot for your time and help,
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:41 PM
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Hi,
I just wanted some advice on some good EV spreads, movesets and natures on the pokemon stated: Amoongus, Elecktross, Hydreigon and Tornadus
Thanks a lot for your time and help,
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^Hi, if you're still interested in these Pokemon, I can help you. Since I hate copying and pasting though, I'll just make 'em up for you with my general knowledge. You may call me the Pokemon Guru (not really).


Amoongus @ Leftovers
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
Ability: Effect Spore
EVs: 252HP / 228SpD / 28Spe
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- HP [Ice] / HP [Fire]
- Clear Smog / Stun Spore

Amoongus is a Pokemon that has a pretty unique role despite the lackluster stats. I've seen no Amoongus in standard play though :( so this really is off the top of my head. You can use Regenerator on this, though I'm not sure if it came out yet, but if it did, then that'd be much better. The speed EVs give you a jump on Reuniclus so you can Spore it before it sets up and no speed investment Wobbuffet just in case one comes along. The Hidden Power choices are up to preferance, one beats up Gliscor and Dragons while Fire hits Ferrothorn. If you're using HP Fire though, bump up the speed one point to compensate for the IV loss.


Eelectross @ Life Orb
Naughty nature (+Atk, -SpD)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 240Atk / 184SpA / 84Spe
- Wild Charge
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot
- HP Ice

A lot of people have requested Eelectross movesets before so I kinda remember it being like this. Wild Charge does quite a bit of damage on Blissey so it's all cool. You outspeed no speed Tyranitar so all good. You hit quite a lot of defensive cores hard with this set. You may run a Brave nature on this easily to abuse the fact it has reasonable bulk and no weaknesses, but you'll fail to outspeed Blissey.


Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Modest nature (+SpA, -Atk)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4Def / 252SpA / 252Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Dark Pulse / U-Turn

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Hydreigon @ Choice Scarf
Timid nature (+SpA, -Atk)
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4Def / 252SpA / 252Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- U-Turn / Dark Pulse / Head Smash

I listed two sets for Hydreigon that work moderately well. The Modest Hydreigon actually has the stongest Draco Meteor in OU play (unless Latios starts running Modest now :/). You have an actual Fire attack and Focus Blast that all differentate it from Latios. The last slot is a throw up between whatever you want.

The Scarf set shares the same moves with the exception of Head Smash. This may seem funny, but even with a attack reducing nature you still KO Bold max /max Volcarona everytime. It's the only OU Dragon capable of doing that now that Garchomp is gone. It's kinda gimmicky at best though, hence why it's the last option.


Tornadus @ Life Orb
Naive nature (+Spe, -SpD)
Ability: Prankster
Evs: 32Atk / 224SpA / 252Spe
- Hurricane
- Hammer Arm
- Rain Dance
- U-Turn / HP Ice

One of the best things about Tornadus is priority Rain Dance. In this weather-centric metagame, even having Drzzle Politoed sometimes may not be enough. You don't even need much Atk EVs to OHKO Tyranitar so just boost out its best stats. LO Hurricane will wreck just about anything not resistant to it. U-Turn helps to scout and HP Ice gives you a 100% attack option against Gliscor and Dragons.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:51 PM
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Hey folks,
I've just finished slogging through the Battle Subway, and I am sick of fighting the CPU all the time. There are a few pokes I've bred for strong IVs, and I just don't know the best way to use them, especially in "real" battles. My favorite is:
Hydregion @ White Herb
Nature: Modest
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Charge Beam / Scary Face

Basically, she's a Sp. Atk monster (Max IVs in Sp. Def and Speed, trained for Sp. Atk and Speed mostly) and quite versatile...but I don't really know how to use her most effectively on a competitive team. Any suggestions for teammates/items? I prefer single battles.

Also, I want to use an Eelectross, but I don't know a good nature/moveset... Any suggestions on good teams with one of those would be great as well!
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:57 PM
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It's not our policy in CBC to build teams for you. It's not particularly hard, just check out some teams previously posted to get an idea. But if you want movesets, then go to the sticky Request Thread. Funnily enough, I just finished posting Hydreigon and Eelectross sets in there, so yeah.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:59 PM
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It's not our policy in CBC to build teams for you. It's not particularly hard, just check out some teams previously posted to get an idea. But if you want movesets, then go to the sticky Request Thread. Funnily enough, I just finished posting Hydreigon and Eelectross sets in there, so yeah.
Ha ok then. Thanks for the redirect. I'll close this one then.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 04:00 PM
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I was wondering if there was an alternative way to breed both Mach Punch and Drain Punch on a timber. Right now, the only way I see is with Hitmonchan, and that's a bit impossible for me right now (i used the Drain Punch TM....T.T).

Help with this would be much appreciated.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 04:47 PM
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question about EV training.

since i can use a max of 10 vitamins for each stat on one pokemon, and each gives 10 EV's thats a total of 100, right?
so if my pokemon has pokerus if i give it 10 vitamins would that give it 200 EV"s for that one stat?
 
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