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Old June 14th, 2011, 12:39 AM
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Old June 14th, 2011, 11:14 AM
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Old June 14th, 2011, 02:15 PM
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Build a team first, and we can swap, arrange, and replace moves and Pokemon later, for what works well with something else.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 04:53 PM
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I'm trying to use these combinations, and I want you to rate the best.

(A)

Lilligant is up there because in the game you can trade Cottonee for a Petilil.

(B)

(C)

(D)

(E)

(F)
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Old June 15th, 2011, 02:27 AM
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I would use the one with Nuttrei in it, just because he's freaking amazing--eats up damage like a boss and Iron Barbs = death to all. You also have Urgamoth on the same team, which is a definite plus. Shibirudon is also a very good Pokemon with a very diverse movepool. Urgamoth is nigh impossible to raise and use before the E4 (but I did it in my first run-through anyway).

Oh, yeah. I meant Ferrothorn, Volcarona, and Eelektross.

(D)

(C) is also good (it's basically what my team is now, except the starter was Smugleag, who I dropped for Ferrothorn, the bug was Pendoraa and the Fighting-type was Zuruzukin). Darmanitan is absolute win (but make sure your Darumaka has Hustle and not Inner Focus) and Swoobat is pretty versatile early-game.

If I could mix them around, I'd do
Daikenki, Symboler, Hihidaruma, Nattorei / Elfoon, Shibirudon, and Urgamoth.

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Oh.

Samurott, Sigilyph, Darmanitan, Ferrothorn / Whimsicott, Eelektross, Volcarona.

Whimsicott is very good once it learns Giga Drain. Trust me.
Sigilyph is ridiculously strong--like ridiculous. And fast too. One of the times you battle N, he has one and it will sweep your team.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 06:00 AM
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This team looks pretty good, if you don't mind trading over Tepig and such. However, you have a blazing weakness to Bug types, and if I remember correctly Ghesthis has a Volcarona and that thing is strong and will hurt you. Also, I prefer Whimsicott over lilligant, but I guess that is just a personal preferance.

(B)

This team looks nice too, as long as you don't mind having your whole team before the third gym. You'll find that Simisear has a terrible moveset and is outclassed by Chandelure (and Volcarona, if you don't mind grinding). I'm not sure about Unfezant or Zebstrika, but I've heard that Zebstrika is frail and that Unfezant is pretty strong (I think). Excadrill is amazing and will help you out a lot, and Leavanny is also pretty strong, and if you use her I suggest running around a lot in Pinwheel forest to max her happiness to evolve her before the Bug gym so that she can dominate (which she did for me if I remember correctly). Also this team is crippled by Rock and Ground types, so just use your brain in those situations to counter it.

(C)

This team looks fun. I used Swoobat, and it is fairly okay pre-E4 but then it is just outclassed by everything and wont do you much good, even during the E4. Darmanitan is pretty strong and should hold well, and Sawsbuck would be fun to use in my opinion. Galvantula is pretty good, and its typing provides nice type coverage. Mienshao is also good, as long as you don't mind getting it really late in the game. I suggest using Conkeldurr/Throh/Sawk since you can get them early, instead of Mienshao. Once again, this team is weak to Rock, so have Samurott and Mienshao handy in the caves.

(D)

I wouldn't use this team just because you get most of them late in the game. You can't find Mandibuzz until after the 7th or 8th gym (I think), and Volcarona you will get late and will have to grind like 40 levels. Ferrothorn and Eelektross are sort of at a place that I would call the last place I would catch a team member, because you find them where it is pretty central and you wont have to grind too much, etc. I'm not sure how good Cinccino is, but she looks pretty :D Weakness wise, this team is extremely well rounded and wont easily fall to any one type.

(E)

I like this team as well. Chandelure is great, and I've heard Unfezant is, Whimsicott is cute and does pretty well as well, and I've heard good things about Krookodile and Gothitelle. This team has pretty bad weakness to Ice and Bug, so be sure to strategize accordingly.

(F)

The only problem with this team is that you won't get 1/3 of it until right before or during the E4. Hydreigon is awesome, and strong while at it, as is Reshiram. Sawsbuck is pretty good and would be fun to use, and Sigilyph is crazy good and a lot better than Swoobat (sorry Swoobat D:). I have heard the Zebstrika can be frail, but I don't know. This team is really weak to Ice, so just keep that in mind.



Overall, I think I would choose Team B, but replace Simisear with Chandelure and Zebstrika with Eelektross.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 05:09 PM
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Alder has the Volcarona, not Ghetsis.
And it's 58 levels for Volcarona before E4 the first time, but then you can get a wild one for the second run-through.

Also, Hydreigon is like... Near impossible to get before the first E4 because he finishes at level 74--He's only good with breeding, so that's 73 levels of training. Zweilous is definitely not worth it because he sucks.

Eelektross completely outclasses Zebstrika.
Whimsicott~Prankster is a hell lot more useful than Lilligant and can't die ever (actually it never died when I used it because of Giga Drain).
Ferrothorn is a very, very good Pokemon. Give him a Rugged Helmet for in-game and he'll wreck anything that tries to touch him. You can just spam Curse.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 07:57 PM
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(A)

This team looks pretty good, if you don't mind trading over Tepig and such. However, you have a blazing weakness to Bug types, and if I remember correctly Ghesthis has a Volcarona and that thing is strong and will hurt you. Also, I prefer Whimsicott over lilligant, but I guess that is just a personal preferance.

(B)

This team looks nice too, as long as you don't mind having your whole team before the third gym. You'll find that Simisear has a terrible moveset and is outclassed by Chandelure (and Volcarona, if you don't mind grinding). I'm not sure about Unfezant or Zebstrika, but I've heard that Zebstrika is frail and that Unfezant is pretty strong (I think). Excadrill is amazing and will help you out a lot, and Leavanny is also pretty strong, and if you use her I suggest running around a lot in Pinwheel forest to max her happiness to evolve her before the Bug gym so that she can dominate (which she did for me if I remember correctly). Also this team is crippled by Rock and Ground types, so just use your brain in those situations to counter it.

(C)

This team looks fun. I used Swoobat, and it is fairly okay pre-E4 but then it is just outclassed by everything and wont do you much good, even during the E4. Darmanitan is pretty strong and should hold well, and Sawsbuck would be fun to use in my opinion. Galvantula is pretty good, and its typing provides nice type coverage. Mienshao is also good, as long as you don't mind getting it really late in the game. I suggest using Conkeldurr/Throh/Sawk since you can get them early, instead of Mienshao. Once again, this team is weak to Rock, so have Samurott and Mienshao handy in the caves.

(D)

I wouldn't use this team just because you get most of them late in the game. You can't find Mandibuzz until after the 7th or 8th gym (I think), and Volcarona you will get late and will have to grind like 40 levels. Ferrothorn and Eelektross are sort of at a place that I would call the last place I would catch a team member, because you find them where it is pretty central and you wont have to grind too much, etc. I'm not sure how good Cinccino is, but she looks pretty :D Weakness wise, this team is extremely well rounded and wont easily fall to any one type.

(E)

I like this team as well. Chandelure is great, and I've heard Unfezant is, Whimsicott is cute and does pretty well as well, and I've heard good things about Krookodile and Gothitelle. This team has pretty bad weakness to Ice and Bug, so be sure to strategize accordingly.

(F)

The only problem with this team is that you won't get 1/3 of it until right before or during the E4. Hydreigon is awesome, and strong while at it, as is Reshiram. Sawsbuck is pretty good and would be fun to use, and Sigilyph is crazy good and a lot better than Swoobat (sorry Swoobat D. I have heard the Zebstrika can be frail, but I don't know. This team is really weak to Ice, so just keep that in mind.



Overall, I think I would choose Team B, but replace Simisear with Chandelure and Zebstrika with Eelektross.
I might not end up going with A if my bro (antho007911) won't let me trade.

I might go with E - so deku says massive Bug and Ice weakness with Team E? Chandelure can deal with both Bug and Ice types, you know (It is part Fire-type).
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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:39 AM
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I'd use Team F, except that I'd replace Zebstrika with Galvantula or Eelektross.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 07:52 AM
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How did anyone get the idea that Unfezant is good? What set can you run for Unfezant? Its most reliable Flying attack is... Aerial Ace (I guess if it holds a power herb, you can use Sky Attack... once).

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Is the only set it can run effectively at all.
Too bad it didn't get Steel Wing or a Fighting move. That might have tipped it off.

Meh. Not that good. Staraptor still takes the cake.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:39 AM
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Group C & E is a great match up to me.
Or a mixture of all the groups perhaps.



perhaps this?
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:45 AM
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Group C & E is a great match up to me.
Or a mixture of all the groups perhaps.



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No, don't suggest Braviary as I am playing Black, not White.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:47 AM
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No, don't suggest Braviary as I am playing Black, not White.
Oh, I had no idea that Braviary is on exclusive for White. That sucks majorly since it's a badass flying type. I guess you're stuck with Unfezant or another crossbreed flying type.
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F is the one i'm liking.
Just replace Zebstrika with Elektross.

Or you could try team B. seems fine enough.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 03:57 AM
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Oh, I had no idea that Braviary is on exclusive for White. That sucks majorly since it's a badass flying type. I guess you're stuck with Unfezant or another crossbreed flying type.
Yes, I am choosing Unfezant.

As for CyberBlaziken's comment, I like Zebstrika way better than Eelektross.
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Well, in my run through of white, Krookodile, Haxorus, Samurott, and Victini were the real cornerstones on me team. I understand not using Victini because it is a legendary and some people don't use legendaries, so maybe you could use Darmanitan as an alternative. I'd go with Garvantula over Eelektross. Eelektross was just too slow.

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Yes, I am choosing Unfezant.

As for CyberBlaziken's comment, I like Zebstrika way better than Eelektross.
What does anyone see in Unfezant? Can someone answer me that?
Disagree with both there, sorry. Anyone with White can trade you a Braviary, and it's way better than Unfezant.
What do you find in Zebstrika? Speed? That's all it has over Eelektross. I use both, I know. Do you just not want Eelektross because you've already caught a Zebstrika or because Tynamo are hard to find or something?

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I can trade you a Braviary and so can half of the Generation V players.

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I might go with E - so deku says massive Bug and Ice weakness with Team E? Chandelure can deal with both Bug and Ice types, you know (It is part Fire-type).
Chandelure is one Pokemon. An amazing one, but nevertheless. Chandelure will faint at some point before all of your Bug and Ice weak Pokemon have in almost every battle (seeing as you have three Pokemon weak to Bug and three to Ice).

Again, what does anyone see in Unfezant?
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It's also in-game and any Pokemon can be used in-game.
If the OP wants to use a team that is subpar on a competitive level, so be it.

Though, I wonder why you suggested all those Pokemon if you obviously preferred others.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 02:45 AM
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What does anyone see in Unfezant? Can someone answer me that?
Disagree with both there, sorry. Anyone with White can trade you a Braviary, and it's way better than Unfezant.
What do you find in Zebstrika? Speed? That's all it has over Eelektross. I use both, I know. Do you just not want Eelektross because you've already caught a Zebstrika or because Tynamo are hard to find or something?

I can trade you a Braviary and so can half of the Generation V players.

Chandelure is one Pokemon. An amazing one, but nevertheless. Chandelure will faint at some point before all of your Bug and Ice weak Pokemon have in almost every battle (seeing as you have three Pokemon weak to Bug and three to Ice).

Again, what does anyone see in Unfezant?
Unfezant just looks like a great bird. Braviary is nice, but because my brother will be playing White he won't usually let me trade cos he is just too rough.

And I have not even played Black yet, my birthday is in October so I have not caught any Unova Pokes yet.

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It's also in-game and any Pokemon can be used in-game.
If the OP wants to use a team that is subpar on a competitive level, so be it.

Though, I wonder why you suggested all those Pokemon if you obviously preferred others.
It's because some I like the design of, others not. As for the Zebstrika/Eelektross issue. I prefer Zebstrika cos of better design.

I'm not much of a competitive player.

I haven't even registered a Friend Code yet.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 08:33 PM
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What about Archeops as an alternative to Unfezant? I used Unfezant for about the first 5 or so gym badges, then I switched over because Unfezant just wasn't cutting it. Archeops is awesome... as long as he doesn't get attacked because his defence isn't super high, his attack makes up for it though.
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What about Archeops as an alternative to Unfezant? I used Unfezant for about the first 5 or so gym badges, then I switched over because Unfezant just wasn't cutting it. Archeops is awesome... as long as he doesn't get attacked because his defence isn't super high, his attack makes up for it though.
I'm not using Archeops cos it has the WORST EVER ABILITY.

Defeatist cuts Archeops' offensive power if it takes too many hits.

Nice design but hate it.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 07:46 PM
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I'm not using Archeops cos it has the WORST EVER ABILITY.

Defeatist cuts Archeops' offensive power if it takes too many hits.

Nice design but hate it.
It might have the worst ability ever, but it's not like its going to actually take any hits. Hit extremely hard, hit extremely fast, then die. That's Archeops.

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Old July 13th, 2011, 07:21 PM
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I'm not using Archeops cos it has the WORST EVER ABILITY.

Defeatist cuts Archeops' offensive power if it takes too many hits.

Nice design but hate it.

You can't exactly say you hate it because of its ability when you haven't even used it yet.

Archeops is awesome. It doesn't have great HP so like what Snorelacks said, its ability isn't going to be a pain because it probably won't activate. I used one on my White. It was sent in, destroyed everything, then got knocked out. Way better than Unfezant, who could barely give out any damage. I used it on my Black version and it was not very good.

Archeops over Unfezant.

My brother also used Sigilyph and it worked great for him. I haven't used Swoobat so I can't offer you any advice with him.

But seriously? Archeops over Unfezant.
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You can't exactly say you hate it because of its ability when you haven't even used it yet.

Archeops is awesome. It doesn't have great HP so like what Snorelacks said, its ability isn't going to be a pain because it probably won't activate. I used one on my White. It was sent in, destroyed everything, then got knocked out. Way better than Unfezant, who could barely give out any damage. I used it on my Black version and it was not very good.

Archeops over Unfezant.

My brother also used Sigilyph and it worked great for him. I haven't used Swoobat so I can't offer you any advice with him.

But seriously? Archeops over Unfezant.
I may not have my Black yet, but I already know Archeops has the worst ever ability cos it cuts Attack and Sp. Atk power if he takes too many hits.

Never using Archeops, It's too risky and I'm not a fan of fossil Pokemon.
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