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View Poll Results: Who Is The Hardest Gym Leader Of HG/SS?
Falkner 5 1.77%
Bugsy 11 3.90%
Whitney 140 49.65%
Morty 15 5.32%
Chuck 15 5.32%
Jasmine 16 5.67%
Bryce 4 1.42%
Claire 76 26.95%
Other (Kanto) 0 0%
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Old November 21st, 2011 (11:25 PM).
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Clair, only because of her Kingdra. Other than that I don't normally have many problems with any other gym leader really...
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Old November 23rd, 2011 (11:40 AM).
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I definitely found Claire the most difficult, much for the same reasons that I'm stuck on Lance in the League. I have nothing that's good against Dragons except a Gyarados that knows Avalanche. That worked okay-ish for Claire though.

Second to her is definitely Morty, though.
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Old November 23rd, 2011 (12:21 PM).
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like most people here, i'd have to go with that miltank! mostly because i wasn't expecting that annoying milk drink. and because at the time, ALL my pokemon were male, so they all fell prey to attract. she was the only trainer i lost to.
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Old November 26th, 2011 (03:34 AM).
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Witney imo, she keeps killing my mid 20s team
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Although I voted for Clair , there really isn't a "hardest" gym leader unless you really train your pokemon alot .
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Old November 26th, 2011 (01:42 PM).
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for me, it was Whitney, because of Miltank
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Old November 27th, 2011 (08:33 AM). Edited November 27th, 2011 by Dratinichick.
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I would have to say Claire. However I found if you use a Pokemon on the normal type side, you can defeat her with ease. With the MooMoo milk? I just make sure my pokemon is much faster, because by the time she takes her turn to heal her Miltank, you've already moved in for the KO and her Miltank is down.
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Old November 27th, 2011 (03:01 PM).
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With Whitney's Miltank, I just spammed fly. It's like, super effective because not only does roll-out miss, but you hit with a very powerful attack from above.
But isn't Fly a HM you can obtain well after Whitney's gym? =p
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Old November 27th, 2011 (04:26 PM).
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Quote originally posted by bobandbill:
But isn't Fly a HM you can obtain well after Whitney's gym? =p
Possibly.... wow I feel stupid now lol. I could have sworn I used fly on her Miltank.... =/ hm
I fixed my post =D
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Jasmine, I still can't beat her. :l
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Whitney. Honestly, Claire was pretty easy. My Gyarados had Dragon Rage, Twister, and Ice Fang. I also got a Dratini at the Game Corner early on.
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Whitney for sure. Even in the originals, her miltank's rollout was a major pissoff against my quilava and rest of my team. Using super potions meant nothing after her rollout built up over time...
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Old December 2nd, 2011 (11:37 PM).
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having just beaten claire, i'd say she comes close after whitney... or possibly on the same level, simply because i don't really have many good pokemon against dragon type, and ice moves weren't that effective on all of them!
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Old December 3rd, 2011 (03:12 AM).
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Clair was the hardest for me. When I got there my team were around the 36, 37's while her Kingdra was 41. I had to restart 5 times before beating her off a critical hit. Chuck was hard for me as well with his Poliwrath.
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Old December 3rd, 2011 (03:35 AM).
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Whitney has always been the hardest gym leader for me due to her darn Miltank :/
It was just overpowered :/
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Old December 3rd, 2011 (07:01 PM).
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Clair gave me the hardest time on my first playthrough. That Kingdra was just....ridiculous! Clair actually inspired me to raise a Kingdra just for that reason. I don't recall Whitney giving me trouble, but she would be #2 in my opinion. That freaking Miltank! Stupid Milk Drink and Attract.
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Old December 6th, 2011 (10:43 PM).
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Defeated them all first tries. Clair is the most challenging by far, and so is Lance. (Not a Gym Leader) Goes to say that Dragons are the best type in the game pretty much. Dragonite's Tanking is just amazing, and Kingdra? To bad Clair's Kingdra can't learn Milk Drink haha
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I honestly don't remember, but Whitney and that Miltank always gave me problems in the originals
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Old December 10th, 2011 (07:57 PM).
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TBH, Clair was really easy for me. I honestly had the hardest time with Morty.
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Old December 10th, 2011 (09:39 PM).
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Whitney and her Miltank.... I pretty much lost to that specific Pokemon every time. I, personally, think it was a bit overpowered.
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Old December 11th, 2011 (01:52 AM).
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Whitney was pathetic to me. I was using dig with my Quilava and she metronomed selfdestruct and killed Clefairy. Miltank was annoying because I burned it with ember but then it used that dang Lum Berry. Luckily I had Flaffy to paralyze it with T wave.
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Old December 11th, 2011 (07:08 AM).
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Whitney seriously made my blood pressure rise.
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Old December 12th, 2011 (09:48 PM).
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It has to be a tie between Whitney and Claire. I only beat that Miltank due to flinch hax. Claire's Kingdra was hard to defeat due to my Pokemon being underleveled.
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Old December 20th, 2011 (11:26 AM).
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Once again I didn't have much of a problem defeating the Gym Leaders in this game, from either region. The main obstacles for me here were Lance and Red. Lance, due none of the Pokemon on my team having learned an Ice Type Move, causing us to peck away at his Team. Red, due to my team being seriously underleveled by the time I reached him.
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Old December 20th, 2011 (12:32 PM).
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I think Bugsy, if you didn't pick Cyndaquil as your starter, that is.
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