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Old December 12th, 2011 (11:49 PM).
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Skarm gets destroyed by rain boosted hits, really. Plus alot of Hydration Vaps have Work Up IIRC.

Quote originally posted by Kittyipawd:
2 questions. Is there any pokemon that hard counter hydration vaporeon and is thier a pokemon that beats all venasaur sets (or checks them) and can check rain teams? if not then a core of them.
Uh grass types (Virizion, Ferro, Celebi, Shaymin [Natural Cure) and the like) and Rotom-W poop on Vappy. Taunt Jellicent outspeeds Vap and cant Taunt Toxics and Rests and wear Vap down. Sub Mind Latias can set up on Vappy as can Chesto Rest DD Kingdra. STalker Gyara can PHaze it and Rest off any and all damage. Or just change the weather back on predicted Rests. There is also Trick which ruins it.

Heatran and Chandelure wall p much all Venusaur sets without EQ which is exceedingly rare. Sp.Def Dragonite is annoying for it too and can wall even +2 LO Sludge Bomb with SR up iirc. If it lacks Sludge Bomb other dragons wall it too. Blissey/Chansey also beats it quite handily and Chansey walls even the Mix sets too. P2, Sp.Def Deoxys-D and Cress can work in a similar manner. You can also use ScarfTar to change the weather back, outspeed and crush it.

The usual anti weather stall core is Heatran, Gastrodon/Jellicent and Skarm irrc so you could try that.

Hape that helps a little.
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Old December 13th, 2011 (03:32 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Dark Azelf:
Skarm gets destroyed by rain boosted hits, really. Plus alot of Hydration Vaps have Work Up IIRC.



Uh grass types (Virizion, Ferro, Celebi, Shaymin [Natural Cure) and the like) and Rotom-W poop on Vappy. Taunt Jellicent outspeeds Vap and cant Taunt Toxics and Rests and wear Vap down. Sub Mind Latias can set up on Vappy as can Chesto Rest DD Kingdra. STalker Gyara can PHaze it and Rest off any and all damage. Or just change the weather back on predicted Rests. There is also Trick which ruins it.

Heatran and Chandelure wall p much all Venusaur sets without EQ which is exceedingly rare. Sp.Def Dragonite is annoying for it too and can wall even +2 LO Sludge Bomb with SR up iirc. If it lacks Sludge Bomb other dragons wall it too. Blissey/Chansey also beats it quite handily and Chansey walls even the Mix sets too. P2, Sp.Def Deoxys-D and Cress can work in a similar manner. You can also use ScarfTar to change the weather back, outspeed and crush it.

The usual anti weather stall core is Heatran, Gastrodon/Jellicent and Skarm irrc so you could try that.

Hape that helps a little.
I actually use that core ahahah. Chesto Rest Kingdra sounds interesting! I am also liking a celebi though I think I would do a Leftover Celebi with nasty plot and 3 attacks xD.

I am also liking the idea of Scarftar! Can you elaborate on those 3 sets please bud?
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Old December 13th, 2011 (04:07 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Kittyipawd:
I actually use that core ahahah. Chesto Rest Kingdra sounds interesting! I am also liking a celebi though I think I would do a Leftover Celebi with nasty plot and 3 attacks xD.

I am also liking the idea of Scarftar! Can you elaborate on those 3 sets please bud?
Tyranitar@Choice Scarf
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge
- SuperPower

Standard ScarfTar. Useful vs Lati@s etc too.

Kingdra@ Chesto Berry
144 HP / 160 Atk / 40 SpD / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
Trait : Swift Swim
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Outrage
- Rest

Chesto Rest Kingdra. Id suggest Magnezone too to remove Ferrothorn.

Celebi@Leftovers / Life Orb
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain
- Earth Power / Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Psychic

Yeah... Psychic hits Dragonite and Ep hits tran. HP Fire hits junk like Scizor so its up to you on what you use.

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Can anyone tell me where the Quick Battle thread is?
The thread is here. I always thought it was buried too far in the sub-forum.
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Old December 17th, 2011 (04:08 PM).
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people, come to the pc po server, i feel alone!
Basically what happened is...

> Joins server
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tbh I join the server whenever I'm on the laptop. I just sometimes forget it's there. :(
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Old December 17th, 2011 (04:17 PM).
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Old December 19th, 2011 (05:55 PM).
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"Never talks to lunis again" what? What did I do? Lol
Nothing, Nica is just crazy, but in a good way of course. ;3

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Old December 20th, 2011 (10:44 AM).
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Old December 21st, 2011 (01:35 AM).
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You guys aren't the only ones, as soon as it hits like... 1, or something, the server is inactive until I wake up the next day, tbh. At least most of your timezones match!

We should attract more people. :3
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Old December 21st, 2011 (02:06 PM).
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So volbeat in ou is fun stuff
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Old December 21st, 2011 (05:26 PM).
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So volbeat in ou is fun stuff
That scared me, omg. I thought you meant Volbeat MOVED to OU and then I was like "wtf that makes no sense... what other crazy changes did they make...", completely ignoring the fact that tier changes aren't til January, iirc. :(

But yeah, I haven't used it, what makes it fun?
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (05:04 PM).
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Because passing a 2.5 boost is fun with priority though. Anyways can someone find a list of all things that learn Dual Screens and SR and Dual Screens and U-Turn/Voltswitch
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (05:10 PM).
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Volbeat is pretty fun to use. I usually run Thunder Wave/Tail Glow/Baton Pass/Random non-taunt bait filler move. Thunder Wave -> Tail Glow -> Pass it on. It's by no means a top tier baton passer but it works well if done properly. :3

Ugh I see Gastrodon's everywhere now. :c
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Uhh @ former: Deoxys-S could, so Deoxys-D can, Zong, Jirachi, Mew probably, etc. I just use Zong for it :)

Also nothing wrong with mass Gastrodon as long as you have a grass type. :x
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (06:31 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Kittyipawd:
Because passing a 2.5 boost is fun with priority though. Anyways can someone find a list of all things that learn Dual Screens and SR and Dual Screens and U-Turn/Voltswitch
Dual Screens and Stealth Rock;
Clefairy, Clefable, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Mew, Pineco, Forretress, Magcargo, Swinub, Piloswine, Corsola, Celebi, Lunatone, Solrock, Baltoy, Claydol, Metang, Metagross, Jirachi, Deoxys, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Bronzor, Bronzong, Mamoswine, Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, Smeargle

Dual Screens and Volt Switch;
Magnemite, Magneton, Mew, Raikou, Forretress, Magnezone, Rotom (All forms), Smeargle

Dual Screens and U-turn;
Mew, Ledyba, Ledian, Natu, Xatu, Celebi, Jirachi, Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf, Manaphy, Woobat, Swoobat, Genesect and Smeargle.

I spent far too long doing that. Here's Serebii's moveset calculator for future use. :) click me etc

@Forever - But Grass-types usually don't have a space on my team. ))):
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (06:35 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Forever:
Uhh @ former: Deoxys-S could, so Deoxys-D can, Zong, Jirachi, Mew probably, etc. I just use Zong for it :)

Also nothing wrong with mass Gastrodon as long as you have a grass type. :x
Deoxys-S is banned.

Anyway, speaking of bans, Snover and Abomasnow are now BL. In other words, Snow Warning is now gone in every tier but OU and Ubers.
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (06:59 PM).
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I know, that's why I said "could", and everything else as "can", lol.

For some reason I don't think hail will be used as much, tbh. Because in UU it only had to contend with sand, but in OU it instantly has two other weather types and idk... I always view rain/sand/sun as superior /bias

dragonomega, that's such a sin! I haven't used a team lately without some sort of grass Pokemon, they're so useful :( go fix this rn!!
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Old December 23rd, 2011 (05:55 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Forever:
I know, that's why I said "could", and everything else as "can", lol.

For some reason I don't think hail will be used as much, tbh. Because in UU it only had to contend with sand, but in OU it instantly has two other weather types and idk... I always view rain/sand/sun as superior /bias

dragonomega, that's such a sin! I haven't used a team lately without some sort of grass Pokemon, they're so useful :( go fix this rn!!
;o; I put an SD Virizion into it. It works a bit better, however I haven't seen one Gastrodon... >: Quagsire and Swampert are a bit low as well. All I see are Lati@s, Tyranitar etc

I agree with the 'Hail won't be used' because it probably won't. Abomasnow is pretty much owned by all Weather starters, (Barr Politoed) and Hail doesn't have the best abusers. I really do think that Hail needs a new secondary effect than just minor damage every turn.
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