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Old December 25th, 2011 (12:37 PM).
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Just something I felt like making for a bit of fun. Each Pokemon on the team (excluding Hydreigon) is based on a favourite Pokemon of a friend of mine. I tried to make the team balanced in terms of type coverage as well, which wasn't an easy task for me. I think I've done OK though. Anyway, here goes.

Team Overview

Team Breakdown

DRAKOW (Hydreigon) (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- U-turn / Dark Pulse

Who else to lead the charge than the Overlord himself? Rocking his signature shades, he strikes with awe-inspiring, destructive power! Draco Meteor obliterates pretty much anything that does not resist it, barring a few very dedicated special walls. The blasts of fire and focus provide perfect coverage for him, eliminating any steel type that dares show its face against the Overlord. Finally, U-Turn is a great scout move but this team currently has no Dark Moves on it, so I am tempted to stick Dark Pulse on here just for that extra coverage potential.

RENPUU (Gengar) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Substitute
- Pain Split / Disable

You guys don't know him but he's my best friend! Right hand man and second in command. While I am more inclined to be a front line commander, Renpuu prefers to give the orders behind the scenes, only appearing in combat when an opportune moment presents itself. Shadow Ball and Focus Blast gives near perfect neutral coverage. Substitute and Pain Split allow Renpuu to combat dedicated walls and in this instance, Pain Split is a pseudo attacking move. Disable is also an option though to troll certain Pokemon by making them harmless against Renpuu. threats such as Conkeldurr and Gliscor for example, once disabled are pretty much hopeless against the ghost.

YOSHIKO (Heracross) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 76 HP / 236 Atk / 196 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Yoshi! A precious friend and currently the only physical attacker on the squad and the only female as well. She is the all rounder in the team, capable of dishing out the hurt and staying alive. Don't let her looks fool you. Get too close and you'll be recoiling in pain from a bone shattering Close Combat! Megahorn is for dual stab and hits incredibly hard too. I wanted to abuse Guts with Rest Talk which is the focus of this set. Mandatory leftovers is mandatory as we all know how much she loves to eat!

VRAI (Omastar) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 104 HP / 252 SAtk / 152 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Shell Smash

My man Vrai! A really cool guy, he is legit amazing. I wanted to go with Scizor here but with Forretress included, Scizor would make a third bug type which I was iffy on. So Omastar it is. Vrai specialises in the mid to end game where a successful Shell Smash seals the deal. The trump card if you will. The ace in the hole. Vrai is especially deadly against Rain Dance teams, where his speed is immediately doubled due to Swift Swim and with Hidden Power Grass, Vrai will be wrecking face.

VAPPY (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Scald
- Roar
- Protect
- Wish

I've only recently been interacting with Vaporeon. He's a decent bloke and I've been enjoying our little Mario Kart 7 shenanigans together. We do pull off some ridiculous stuff against each other. Vappy serves as the main support for the squad, healing the wounded party members and maintaining team moral. Scald over surf for the chance to burn enemies since the team has no other status moves. Roar disrupts enemy set up sweepers and helps dismantle enemy momentum too. Protect and Wish allow Vappy to heal himself or his team mates too! What a team player!

SPINO (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Volt Switch
- Gyro Ball

Last but certainly not least, we have Spino! Though I haven't spoken to him much recently (spoke to him today at least) he still remains a decent buddy of mine. In the squad, he is the trap specialist. He lays the traps and disarms the enemies traps. Stealth Rock is the trap of choice since I don't have it anywhere else on the team. Rapid spin is self explanatory. I like Volt Switch to escape from Magnezone as well as just using it to try and maintain battle momentum. Gyro Ball is to hit certain threats for good damage.


All suggestions are welcomed, though I would prefer suggestions to move sets rather than swapping Pokemon around, but feel free to comment on whatever.
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Old December 25th, 2011 (12:57 PM).
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The only thing I see wrong with this team is that you've got two fire weaknesses (heracross and forretress) and two electric weaknesses (Omastar and Vaporeon, though vappy at least makes it up by having high special defense).

I'm not so sure about heracross, personally. Why it over Machamp or Conkeldurr? While the two have lower special defense by comparison, they make it up with their better overall stats, especially Machamp, who can mess with teams with dynamic punch and it even has access to zen headbutt.

I just don't think heracross is that viable in this gen, unless it has choice scarf and moxie (BEEEEAAAAASST!)
Old December 25th, 2011 (1:03 PM).
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The fire weakness shouldn't be a problem since half the team resists fire. The electricity is worrisome though. I might have to make some adjustments to compensate for that. Heracross is used over those other fighting types cause it's one of my friends' favourite Pokemon. Heracross does have one big advantage though with Megahorn which annihilates psychic types like Reuniclus for example.
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Old December 25th, 2011 (1:33 PM).
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I'd personally suggest the standard LO Latios set > Gengar. It gives you two Dragon weaks and only one resist, but as it was Gengar won't be surviving any Outrages or Draco Meteors anyways. It also lets you sponge Electric hits like it's his job, then outspeed in return. All that aside, Starmie causes this team major problems, nothing can come in on it safely, and it removes your hazards. Basically any BoltBeamer gives you problem. Chansey with Wish and Counter solves both that and your Scrotom problem.

Nice team, gluck with it.
Old December 26th, 2011 (2:08 AM).
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CM Latias/Latios straight up 6-0 this team and you cannot do anything about it. Especially offensive CM Latios, wow does that thing just roll you.

In addition nothing can take Draco Meteors from anything, every time something comes in, something dies to it. Forretress too despite the resistance is KO'd by Specs Latios/Hydreigon Draco Meteor alone.

Essentially anything that can boost its stats such as DD Dragonite has the ability to 6-0 you too.

This team also cannot handle Scizor at all.

Id replace Heracross who honestly isnt doing anything. Id look into Scizor to sponge Draco Meteors. Scizor would be preferable as it also covers the nasty Scrafty weakness to an extent and is useful with priority on such a darn slow team. It can also Pursuit special walls softening them up for Hydreigon.

Scizor @ Choice Band
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Sped
Adamant Nature
Trait: Technician
~ U-turn
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ Pursuit

Forry isnt doing much on this team either and is really better suited to stall. So id get rid of that for a Scizor check this team sorely needs. Magnezone may work this also helps support Hydreigon obv. In addition it also removes one of Gengars biggest counters, that being Sp.Def Jirachi.

Magnezone @ Leftovers
40 HP / 252 S.Atk / 216 Speed
Modest Nature
Trait: Magnet Pull
~ Substitute
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden [Power Fire]
~ Charge Beam / Flash Cannon

Id then try Mamoswine over Omastar, because as of now you have a hideous auto sun sweep weakness. Ice Shard remedies that problem. Plus Mamo can also set up rocks nicely which you've lost from removing Forry.

Mamoswine @ Life Orb / Leftovers
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Shard
~ Icicle Crash
~ Stealth Rock

So to sum up changes;

CB Scizor
Hydreigon (Modest btw, dont cut its good defences just for one move)

Hope this helps.
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