[Developing] F2P Pokemon Style Monster MMORPG Review - Also Looking For Volunteer Artists

[Cabe]

Originally Posted by xdanx

Boring. Sorry but I can't describe it any other way. I played it and after 15 minutes I was already bored. Why? because it's almost exactly the same that so many pokemon games already seen, but a lot of the creatures I find them quite unoriginal and ugly. That's because it is yet another pokemon clone, and usually, pokemon clones have creatures whose design is too complicated and some times realistic, which simply doesn't fit with that kind of gameplay.

I also don't like website design, colors and buttons aren't the best. I guess you will be changing a lot of things, but to be frank, I wouldn't waste more time playing the game as it is.

Anyway an advice, if you don't want it to be closed, not only make sure you don't have any copyrighted material, stop promoting it as a pokemon-style game too. They don't need you to use their material to be able to cause you troubles. Direct copies are also punishable by the law, and this game isn't precisely going by unnoticed, specially if you describe it as a pokemon-style game. Don't take this in a bad way, but if you need to use Pokemon's fame to make your game well-known, then you have to think why are you wasting your time. If your game can't be good enough to create its own fame and get fans by itself, then there's no reason to keep doing it.

Anyway you probably won't care about my comment, not even to believe something of what I have said, and you may even think "this is a troll". Do it if you want, but believe me, kid's flattery won't make your game better, real and serious critiques will.

Anyway, who cares right? if people plays the game, why bother changing anything? isn't that's how "game developers" think this days?

I agree with this a lot. I've played the game and found it really pointless so far. It has no backstory nor anthing but tall grass and monsters. It's like you copied pokemon games structure and concept and started creating lots of "monsters", constantly updating more and more. You know, that doesn't make this game original AT ALL. I mean, c'mon! your pokeball replacement is an hexagonal and incredibly ugly "monster box"??? you could have put some thought on it. If you wanted to change de monster storing device you could have created something never seen before. I ended up really disliking this project. This is plagiarism and i can not believe you got copyrights.

Anyway, don't get me wrong. I really encourage new ideas and creativity, but this is insulting. I mean, you took pokemon, pokeballs, trainers, gym leaders, pokemon elemental types (having added light tipe is still nothing original), TM's, HM's, three-evolutionary-states-top, EVERYTHING! But you're trying to show this as something new. Your complex design of monsters really cuts off the pokemon style but your overworld is exactly the same so... how come this is something different from pokemon games? How come you got copyrights? I mean, this is not a "pokemon style monster mmorpg", this is just another pokemon game with everything renamed and slightly reshaped. Oh! wait... TM's keep the exact same name... another point to "this is plagiarism". And the worse of all, i really smell that when this is done, there'll be premium accounts and only-obtainable-by-cash stuff.

if this was a hack or a fangame i'd be cool with it... it just annoys me that this is pretended to be something else.

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by Cabe

I agree with this a lot. I've played the game and found it really pointless so far. It has no backstory nor anthing but tall grass and monsters. It's like you copied pokemon games structure and concept and started creating lots of "monsters", constantly updating more and more. You know, that doesn't make this game original AT ALL. I mean, c'mon! your pokeball replacement is an hexagonal and incredibly ugly "monster box"??? you could have put some thought on it. If you wanted to change de monster storing device you could have created something never seen before. I ended up really disliking this project. This is plagiarism and i can not believe you got copyrights.

Anyway, don't get me wrong. I really encourage new ideas and creativity, but this is insulting. I mean, you took pokemon, pokeballs, trainers, gym leaders, pokemon elemental types (having added light tipe is still nothing original), TM's, HM's, three-evolutionary-states-top, EVERYTHING! But you're trying to show this as something new. Your complex design of monsters really cuts off the pokemon style but your overworld is exactly the same so... how come this is something different from pokemon games? How come you got copyrights? I mean, this is not a "pokemon style monster mmorpg", this is just another pokemon game with everything renamed and slightly reshaped. Oh! wait... TM's keep the exact same name... another point to "this is plagiarism". And the worse of all, i really smell that when this is done, there'll be premium accounts and only-obtainable-by-cash stuff.

if this was a hack or a fangame i'd be cool with it... it just annoys me that this is pretended to be something else.

Sorry to disappoint you but i am trying to make similar That is my point. Also making similar is not violating any copyrights. Style can not be copyrighted.

Diablo 2 and Torch Light very similar games yet bot successful. Many of the games are very similar. Anyway my aim is surpassing original Pokemon games. Just wait and see.

And announcement

Alright people special weekend bonus event started. 150% EXP & Gold from wild monster battles are on.

Also there are 19 new redrawn monsters. They are very high quality. You can see all of the monster images from here :
http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Monster

[KingCharizard]

Dude I like your monsters, whatever their called but you can do alot more with them Remember monster Rancher, that was kinda like a Pokemon knock off but it was still fun to play because it was different, what about Digimon how was that not a Pokemon knock off, yet again it was fun to play because they thought of innovative ways to take the Pokemon concept and make it their own.. You could really have a decent game on your hands, might be a gold mine but you are trying to copy Pokemon instead of making the Pokemon concepts your own to realize it.. Think on the idea because you have a great artist.. Now focus on new gameplay! No one want to catch em all anymore unless its a Pokemon game...

Oh and BTW your violating copyright laws, They cant copyright their gameplay mechanics but they can copyright their art and your maps are clearly made with Pokemon tile designs I believe I told you this before...


I will offer to design/develop and maintain your site for you. If interested drop me a PM

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by KingCharizard

Dude I like your monsters, whatever their called but you can do alot more with them Remember monster Rancher, that was kinda like a Pokemon knock off but it was still fun to play because it was different, what about Digimon how was that not a Pokemon knock off, yet again it was fun to play because they thought of innovative ways to take the Pokemon concept and make it their own.. You could really have a decent game on your hands, might be a gold mine but you are trying to copy Pokemon instead of making the Pokemon concepts your own to realize it.. Think on the idea because you have a great artist.. Now focus on new gameplay! No one want to catch em all anymore unless its a Pokemon game...

Oh and BTW your violating copyright laws, They cant copyright their gameplay mechanics but they can copyright their art and your maps are clearly made with Pokemon tile designs I believe I told you this before...


I will offer to design/develop and maintain your site for you. If interested drop me a PM

If you are talking about new maps all of the tiles are drawn from scratch by various artists So nintendo own none of those tiles copyrights.

Gameplay will also get a lot better by the time. It takes huge time don't worry this game will be a lot better than Pokemon

Also PM sent

[KingCharizard]

Originally Posted by MonsterMMORPG

If you are talking about new maps all of the tiles are drawn from scratch by various artists So nintendo own none of those tiles copyrights.

Gameplay will also get a lot better by the time. It takes huge time don't worry this game will be a lot better than Pokemon

Also PM sent

It doesn't matter if the tiles are hand drawn the designs are still copyrighted by Nintendo.

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by KingCharizard

It doesn't matter if the tiles are hand drawn the designs are still copyrighted by Nintendo.

nope they are not

i suggest you to read this very well prepared with a lot of investigation article

http://whitewinterwolf.deviantart.co...ghts-214246544

[KingCharizard]

Originally Posted by MonsterMMORPG

nope they are not

i suggest you to read this very well prepared with a lot of investigation article

http://whitewinterwolf.deviantart.co...ghts-214246544

.You CANT COPYRIGHT A DESIGN. It is an Idea, and according to the law you CANT copyright a design because of that. Idea's cant be copyrighted... Frustrating hu?

Um, This is wrong. Artists all over the world copyright their designs and artwork. You cant copyright a certain aspect of a design, such as a white wolf or an orange fox because they are ideas but you can copyright the artwork you make of that idea. Everyone will have a different design for a different Idea but regardless of the concept the artwork is what is copyrighted. So yes Nintendos tile designs are copyrighted because its their design, can they stop someone from using a similar tile design from the same concept(idea), no they cannot but you clearly are using tile designs created and owned by Nintendo. A simple variation or a color change is not creating a new design its modifying theirs and in court that would be easy to prove.

For another example of copyrighting designs think of this, a website has a cool new layout/design you want a website with the same design. You CANNOT just take the artwork they have on their website, recolor it re arrange the layout and not expect to get sued. You can however create completely different artwork and arrange it in the same layout as the other site and not have to worry about a lawsuit. It's because artwork CAN be copyrighted but concepts CANNOT.

Yet one more final example, A artist paints his painting with a unique brush stroke another artist sees this and decides he will paint his art the same way. The second artist can do this because he's not copying the artwork/design of the painting, he's copying a technique. Will the artist have similar style yes but they will always produce two different works of art.

So yeah you can use the style of the Pokemon tiles but your not allowed to use the tiles. What i mean is you can design tiles with the shading technique, color variations, shape and size but not the same design.

But ultimately its your game your choice I just wanted to give you a heads up..

[Cazzef]

Hey, this is really something, I registered just now and I'm already hooked (even though I have no idea what I'm doing!) Well at the moment I'm watching the tutorial and trying to learn as much of it as I can... This is brilliant though, good job!

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by KingCharizard

Um, This is wrong. Artists all over the world copyright their designs and artwork. You cant copyright a certain aspect of a design, such as a white wolf or an orange fox because they are ideas but you can copyright the artwork you make of that idea. Everyone will have a different design for a different Idea but regardless of the concept the artwork is what is copyrighted. So yes Nintendos tile designs are copyrighted because its their design, can they stop someone from using a similar tile design from the same concept(idea), no they cannot but you clearly are using tile designs created and owned by Nintendo. A simple variation or a color change is not creating a new design its modifying theirs and in court that would be easy to prove.

For another example of copyrighting designs think of this, a website has a cool new layout/design you want a website with the same design. You CANNOT just take the artwork they have on their website, recolor it re arrange the layout and not expect to get sued. You can however create completely different artwork and arrange it in the same layout as the other site and not have to worry about a lawsuit. It's because artwork CAN be copyrighted but concepts CANNOT.

Yet one more final example, A artist paints his painting with a unique brush stroke another artist sees this and decides he will paint his art the same way. The second artist can do this because he's not copying the artwork/design of the painting, he's copying a technique. Will the artist have similar style yes but they will always produce two different works of art.

So yeah you can use the style of the Pokemon tiles but your not allowed to use the tiles. What i mean is you can design tiles with the shading technique, color variations, shape and size but not the same design.

But ultimately its your game your choice I just wanted to give you a heads up..

You keep saying we are using nintendo tiles. You are wrong we are not using any of nintendo tiles. These tiles are drawn from scratch . They are not owned by Nintendo.

Also if you read that article she talked many lawyers and made a lot of investigation. Did you make any attempt ? I don't think so. So you are wrong not she

Originally Posted by Cazzef

Hey, this is really something, I registered just now and I'm already hooked (even though I have no idea what I'm doing!) Well at the moment I'm watching the tutorial and trying to learn as much of it as I can... This is brilliant though, good job!

Thanks a lot for comment. Currently i am looking for a very good web designer to redesign whole theme of the site. Once it is done and site redesigned this game will make impact on the mmorpg world hopefully :D

[Cabe]

Originally Posted by MonsterMMORPG

You keep saying we are using nintendo tiles. You are wrong we are not using any of nintendo tiles. These tiles are drawn from scratch . They are not owned by Nintendo.

Also if you read that article she talked many lawyers and made a lot of investigation. Did you make any attempt ? I don't think so. So you are wrong not she

So you really read a lot to see how much you could copy from pokemon... interesting. Could you answer me if this is intended to be a lucrative project? will there be any kind of benefit for those who pay for playing? i haven't seen any of that now but this isn't the final release, so... when it is, will people have to pay to have full access to the game? you could change my idea about this project with your answer.

[KingCharizard]

You keep saying we are using nintendo tiles. You are wrong we are not using any of nintendo tiles. These tiles are drawn from scratch . They are not owned by Nintendo.

Also if you read that article she talked many lawyers and made a lot of investigation. Did you make any attempt ? I don't think so. So you are wrong not she

You really cant be that ignorant. I dont mean in the rude way either. I mean as your completely not understanding what I'm saying so i'll try to be clearer.

It. Does. Not. Matter. If. The. Tiles. Are. Hand. Drawn. The. Actual. Art. Work. IS. Copyrighted. By. Nintendo.

Here is a real life example. If i drew a picture, you liked it you could not slap your name on it call it yours and sell it. Just the same as you could not take my picture trace it onto another piece of paper slap your name on it and sell it. If you did i'd sue you.

She says she "talked" to lawyers, but her infomation is wrong and no lawyer would tell her that information either. But you can continue to be naive and think your not stealing and your not doing anything wrong but if you try to sell or profit from your project you will undoubtedly be sued.

The only difference is the color of the tiles... but like i said I give up. its your game your choice...

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by Cabe

So you really read a lot to see how much you could copy from pokemon... interesting. Could you answer me if this is intended to be a lucrative project? will there be any kind of benefit for those who pay for playing? i haven't seen any of that now but this isn't the final release, so... when it is, will people have to pay to have full access to the game? you could change my idea about this project with your answer.

Nope the game will be totally free to play. MMORPG games gain importance as more people play it. But there will be benefits for those who pays like every other f2p games. The issue is keeping it balanced. If you make the game pay 2 win that time players are starting to hate.


@KingCharizard there is no mean of arguing anymore.


Also

Special weekend bonus event started. You will get 100% bonus EXP and Gold from wild monster battles.

Also we updated new monsters page and new maps page. Now they are better looking.

Currently there are very high quality 59 new incoming monsters.

http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMonsters


Also there are 160 super quality maps completed so far. There will be total 520 maps hopefully.

http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMaps

[MonsterMMORPG]

Special weekend bonus event started. You will get 100% bonus EXP and Gold from wild monster battles.

Also there are 20 new redrawn monsters. These monsters are currently available. They are super high quality. We are replacing our current monsters as our talented artists redrawn them.

You can see currently available whole monster list from here : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Monster

[MonsterMMORPG]

Special Weekend 100% Bonus event is on. You will gain 100% More EXP and Gold from battles.

Also the new super insane quality game maps are being done. So far 319 of them completed.

Well check them out and see yourself

http://www.monstermmorpg.com/

http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMaps

[MonsterMMORPG]

Well here we are again with dear gamers. MonsterMMORPG once again making an awesome weekend event. This time event is very special.
The boost amount of EXP and Gold is 250% . So training will be more benefical than anytime else.
Also we have updated 20 monster images with a lot better quality ones.
Here so far updated monsters total 107
Don't forget register and play right now
http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Register

Please check these links for updated monster images : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Monster

http://www.pokecommunity.com/blog.php?b=13663

[MonsterMMORPG]

Once again MonsterMMORPG special weekend event started. This time the EXP and Gold bonus is 150% percent.

It will last during this weekend.

We are also constantly updating our monster images. You better check our latest currently available monsters

For those who does not know, Monster MMORPG is a free to play browser based mmorpg game similar to Pokemon yet unique and all rights reserved game.

The one another news is 72 new maps completed. I am pretty sure you will love them.

These maps will be available hopefully this summer at the game with massive updates.

You can see all of the incoming maps here : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMaps

You can see those new 72 maps at this blog post : http://www.pokecommunity.com/blog.php?b=13714

[mrdjm93]

I Think ur Game would do very well as a downloadable mmorpg pls consider this i would love to play this with a server and client

[Sprinklers]

That all complaints here have either been that the game is the same (and not worse) than all the other MMORPGs, or that it's "too close to pokemon" sounds pretty positive in this viewpoint. Two questions: If you guys were to somehow, magically, end up obtaining a Pokemon license, what would you do? Do you plan to live off this game's profits, even in part? And (if so), what's your business model off F2P?

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by mrdjm93

I Think ur Game would do very well as a downloadable mmorpg pls consider this i would love to play this with a server and client

Well that would be of course nice if i had a big team But i am the only developer so not pretty possible.

Originally Posted by Sprinklers

That all complaints here have either been that the game is the same (and not worse) than all the other MMORPGs, or that it's "too close to pokemon" sounds pretty positive in this viewpoint. Two questions: If you guys were to somehow, magically, end up obtaining a Pokemon license, what would you do? Do you plan to live off this game's profits, even in part? And (if so), what's your business model off F2P?

Well i can make very similar game. It is not against laws and it will be still copyrighted to me. For example torch light is same of diablo. Yet they are doing very good together.

Or empire earth is same of age of empires 2. These are not against laws.

Using other game materials is against laws and we are not using them.

Anyway also once again we updated 17 monster images.

Please read this blog post

http://www.pokecommunity.com/blog.php?b=13739

[User ID]

Looks like a great idea but the layout/images on the website hurt my eyes. Don't like the layout. Looks cool otherwise though :D

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by User ID

Looks like a great idea but the layout/images on the website hurt my eyes. Don't like the layout. Looks cool otherwise though :D

Well don't worry. Hopefully this summer game will be whole redesigned and that time will be a lot better

And the weekly news

Special weekend event of MonsterMMORPG started.

%100 Gold Bonus and EXP bonus from wild monster battles.


And here shocking news. First ancient added to the game and available to catch

Game url : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/

Game register page : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/Register

Fendark the first ancient monster of MonsterMMORPG similar to Naruto Kyuubi but copyright wise

[MonsterMMORPG]

A new ancient class Monster added to the free to play browser based MMORPG game MonsterMMORPG
It is available to catch




Also you will gain 200% more gold and EXP from wild monster battles during weekend
And finally the new incoming maps of MonsterMMORPG is completed
There are 520 maps total done and very high quality : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMaps

[Konekodemon]

Keeps saying my email is in use when it is not.

[MonsterMMORPG]

Originally Posted by Konekodemon

Keeps saying my email is in use when it is not.

just use password recovery at the login page. The game was called as PokemonCraft before but after Nintendo request we had to convert game. But kept old accounts.

Hello dear players. Monster MMORPG once again making a special weekend event with nice bonusses. But the real suprise for this weekend is updated 25 monster images. You can catch them in the game.

Also the process of developing MonsterMMORPG 2.0 started. Stay tuned.

Official site : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/
Incoming new maps : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMaps
Incoming new awesome monsters : http://www.monstermmorpg.com/NewMonsters

The new updated mosnter images

Spoiler:

Redrawn By Henrie





Redrawn By GarbageKeeper

[MonsterMMORPG]

Free mmorpg game MonsterMMORPG news
http://www.monstermmorpg.com/
For weekend 200% EXP & Gold bonus is online

1 new monster


11 updated monster images

Spoiler: