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Old March 15th, 2012, 05:40 AM
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Aww man, why didn't I think of doing Horsea! Was this captured or bred though? If it was captured we need words please! <3
It's in a dive ball and level 20. No way it was bred. ;P

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Congratulations, twisted, and welcome to the Club! Glad I could nag you enough to join Well, not really... you kind of just joined on your own, which is even better!



It was captured, but in HGSS, I believe.

EDIT: My latest abuses from my new save in Platinum:


Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis


Starly ♂ Lv. 2
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Keen Eye
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Tailwind, ***
Non-Redis


Heatran (Heatran) ♂ Lv. 50 ★
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
IVs: 30, 10, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Metal Sound, Crunch, Earth Power, Lava Plume
Non-Redis


Giratina (Giratina) ♁ Lv. 47
OT: Hoshi | ID: 22222
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 31, 16, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Ominous Wind, AncientPower, Dragon Claw, Shadow Force
Non-Redis
Thank you Mac! And nice captures. I see they're all OT Hoshi. Familiar OT. >.>
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Morning All!!! I've worked two double shifts this week, and have another double shift today so I don't think I'm going to have time to complete this challenge. *cry*

Here's what I'm aiming for if I find time on my dinner break [not likely]
I'm trying to breed a Pichu with Volt Tackle. Since I do my breeding on Diamond I traded a Pickachu with Volt Orb from my HeartGold over. I have a Ditto with a perfect HP, and 29 in SA. I have a Raichu with 29 in Speed. I haven't picked a spread out that I like yet. But I'm going for a Jolly nature just because. And I care more about Shiny than the final IV combination. I'll keep you all posted. I get out at 11PM tonight, so I may just be coming in under the wire.

Congrats everyone on your recent RNG's.

Cheers, Ringo
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:11 AM
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did my TID
took me three times to get it right. the reporter's telling me wrong initial frames

ID:00331

also did my starter
Slick the Snivy

Lv. 05
OT:Loucas ID:00331
31/31/30/31/22/31

thanks to blade and mac for some pointers
Congratulations! It feels good to RNG abuse your starter

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Thank you Mac! And nice captures. I see they're all OT Hoshi. Familiar OT. >.>
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I named her after Hoshi Sato from Star Trek Enterprise

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Morning All!!! I've worked two double shifts this week, and have another double shift today so I don't think I'm going to have time to complete this challenge. *cry*

Here's what I'm aiming for if I find time on my dinner break [not likely]
I'm trying to breed a Pichu with Volt Tackle. Since I do my breeding on Diamond I traded a Pickachu with Volt Orb from my HeartGold over. I have a Ditto with a perfect HP, and 29 in SA. I have a Raichu with 29 in Speed. I haven't picked a spread out that I like yet. But I'm going for a Jolly nature just because. And I care more about Shiny than the final IV combination. I'll keep you all posted. I get out at 11PM tonight, so I may just be coming in under the wire.

Congrats everyone on your recent RNG's.

Cheers, Ringo
Uh oh, good luck in getting it done in time! I know how working a lot is though Take it easy.

EDIT: I present my 200th RNG abuse... and since it's such a special occasion, I wanted to do something special (and not the most moral). I injected this Wondercard into my Soul Silver <.<


Mew ♁ Lv. 5
OT: FAL2010 | ID: 10160
Nature: Bold
Ability: Synchronize
IVs: 31, 6, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Pound, ***, ***, ***
Not For Trade

Last edited by Cordelia; March 15th, 2012 at 07:29 AM.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:44 AM
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I present my 200th RNG abuse... and since it's such a special occasion, I wanted to do something special (and not the most moral). I injected this Wondercard into my Soul Silver <.<


Mew ♁ Lv. 5
OT: FAL2010 | ID: 10160
Nature: Bold
Ability: Synchronize
IVs: 31, 6, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Pound, ***, ***, ***
Not For Trade
Congratulations!!! on this monumental achievement!!! You are a real pro now!

This has to be the hardest pokemon i've ever tried to capture!!! Then i accidently pressed the run away button instead of Bag and 1 1/4 hours was wasted! but after about another hour and a half i finally managed to capture this fine beast!


Giratina Lv.70
OT: George | ID: 17771
Modest | Pressure
31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
Shadow Force, Heal Block, Earth Power, Slash
Turnback Cave | Non-Redis
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Old March 15th, 2012, 09:23 AM
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Congratulations!!! on this monumental achievement!!! You are a real pro now!

This has to be the hardest pokemon i've ever tried to capture!!! Then i accidently pressed the run away button instead of Bag and 1 1/4 hours was wasted! but after about another hour and a half i finally managed to capture this fine beast!


Giratina Lv.70
OT: George | ID: 17771
Modest | Pressure
31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31
Shadow Force, Heal Block, Earth Power, Slash
Turnback Cave | Non-Redis
Thanks! Giratina is a real birch though, omg. I hated capturing him both times And knowing me I might do more xD
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Old March 15th, 2012, 01:43 PM
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Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.



Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor


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Old March 15th, 2012, 01:45 PM
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Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.



Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor
Nice Kyurem! I know what you mean, though... that catch rate of 3 is awful. I've had to restart many times due to being stubborn and wanting it in a certain ball!

EDIT: I've been a very busy, but naughty boy! Three more injected Wondercards. Next up is Deoxys-A. All are in 4th Gen.


Celebi ♁ Lv. 50
OT: WIN2011 | ID: 2211
Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 8, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Leaf Storm, Recover, Nasty Plot, Healing Wish
Not For Trade


Jirachi ♁ Lv. 5
OT: SMR2010 | ID: 6260
Nature: Careful
Ability: Serene Grace
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Wish, Confusion, Rest, Draco Meteor
Not For Trade


Shaymin ♁ Lv. 30
OT: Oblivia | ID: 3060
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 6, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Not For Trade

Last edited by Cordelia; March 15th, 2012 at 06:50 PM.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:36 PM
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Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.



Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31

Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor
i'm gonna do Kyurem soon too, well after i finish my new game T.T
i want it shiny, that purple looks awesome, don't know what ball though, maybe another dive ball.

BLACK: 4341 7135 0561
WHITE: 5372 5056 7476
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:51 PM
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Last minute but I got it!!!

Pichu - Male
Jolly
Egg bred
IVs: 31 / 28 / 26 / 31 / 31 / 29
Moves: Thunder / Thunderbolt / Thunder Wave /Volt Tackle

With only 10 minutes to spare...
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Old March 16th, 2012, 05:05 AM
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... ... ...Thanks for everyone who worked everything out for me, but I have a bigger problem. Hitting the delay. I've tried this about 2 times using a certain spread and I could never hit it right. I'm sure I had done the seconds correctly, but I could never hit the delay correctly. And about timers...I can't enter the game in the second when the timer drops down to 0 and with lots of different information on calibration, I can't decide what to put inside the Calibrated Delay/Seconds...and I still don't know how to get rid of my occasional fluctuating seconds rate. And Target Seconds and Delay...you'd put the targeted seconds and delay rate you need to hit in there, right? Any recommendations on how to hit a delay correctly? I know that this would be a long shot, since people hit different delays and have their own ways, but I'll give it a shot. And about BW RNG Abuse for Wondercards...I don't get this part.

  • Hit your seed once and find the IVs you find which is the initial frame.
    • In most cases, it will be the first frame, after you calculate the initial PIDRNG frame.
  • In RNG Reporter, enter your seed and select Wondercard (5th Gen) to see the possible IV spreads.
  • Calculate the amount of advances you need to do to hit the target frame with the following formula:
(Target Frame) - (Initial Frame) = Advances Required

  • Hit your seed again, do the required advances, and verify your Pokemon.
    • Adjust accordingly.
Can someone clarify this part for me (make it easier to understand)? And also...for Shiny Wondercard ones. I also don't understand this part...


  1. Search for Wondercard seeds with the frame range 60-100, with any nature selected.
    • Wondercard IVs and PID / Nature are based off the PIDRNG completely. No Mersenne Twister RNG is used.
  2. Once you have a vast array of seeds, test each one out to see if you are able to hit that frame due to the initial offset of the game.
    • This is done by pressing the Calculate Initial Frame Button.
    • All possible target frames must be at least 2 frames after the initial frame.
  3. Now look at your target frame, and second frame directly after your target. Is your desired nature on this frame?
    • If no, throw away that seed.
    • If yes, keep that seed as a potential target.
  4. Once you have narrowed down your seeds from RNG Reporter to one(s) that have your target nature frame and seed, find out how many advances you need to do.
(Target Frame) - (Initial Frame) - 3 = Advances Required

Detailed Information on Shiny Wondercards:
  • It takes more than the usual amount of frames to calculate a Shiny PID.
  • Since the lastest RNG Reporter update (9.81) was published before we had knowledge of the Shiny Wondercard method, you will have to take a little bit more time to abuse.
  • The game generates a Shiny PID with the "Current Seed" and Card IDs.
    • Since the game generates the IVs before PID, the IVs are predictable.
    • However, the game generates nature after the PID.
    • The trick of this is that the subsequent frame will have the nature.
Can someone clarify this one as well (make it easier to understand)? Thanks and I'm sure you'll just ask me to see the page saying this again.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 05:05 AM
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Here is my latest RNG. Wanted to catch it in a premier ball but I kept running out of them and got tired of restarting. lol.



Kyurem No. 646 | Level 75
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Timid | Pressure | 31 15 31 31 31 31
Glaciate | Dragon Pulse | Imprison | Endeavor
Congrats. Kyurem is my fav <3

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Can someone clarify this one as well (make it easier to understand)? Thanks and I'm sure you'll just ask me to see the page saying this again.
If this is your attitude then don't bother to come here to ask for help again. Do you know how many times we have to read the guide before we ask others for help?

Last edited by johnny18; March 16th, 2012 at 05:16 AM. Reason: Your double post has been automatically merged.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 05:23 AM
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RGF, the easiest way to find your calibrated delay is to enter 500 (HGSS) or 600 (DPPT) and then adjust your timer by typing in the delay hit box the the delay that you actually hit. Then, hit update. It will change your calibrated delay. Keep doing this until you are 2-6 delay off of your target and then you should eventually get it. I don't know what to do about the "fluctuating second" since I've never actually tried that.

For 5th gen wondercards, just go to the E4 Pokemon Center. Then, you start with the initial PIDRNG frame that RNG reporter gives you (will be correct 99% of the time if you go to the E4 Pokemon Center). Then just chatter to your target.

Challlenge #4: RNG your favorite Pokemon of the fire type!
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Old March 16th, 2012, 06:46 AM
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Okay then...I'll keep pretty much everything in mind. And okay. I should read the guide again to understand the things I have problems with? Is that actually it? Well, the guide may be a bit problematic to me, but I'll try. (I don't really know much on RNG)
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Old March 16th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Shiny, Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D
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Old March 16th, 2012, 09:07 AM
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Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D
Congratulations! What a wonderful first RNG, if I may say so myself. I hope to see many more from you. Of course if you ever need more help feel free to ask.

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Okay then...I'll keep pretty much everything in mind. And okay. I should read the guide again to understand the things I have problems with? Is that actually it? Well, the guide may be a bit problematic to me, but I'll try. (I don't really know much on RNG)
You just need to focus on one type of RNG and get it down. Right now you are way too broad which is what I think is confusing for you.

Last edited by Cordelia; March 16th, 2012 at 09:13 AM.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Did the challenge! Not my all time favourite but still one of them.


Flareon
Guts|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn

And did this one (it's the same but w/e)


Leafeon
Chlorophyll|lvl 2.|Adamant
31|31|31|6|31|31
Helping Hand|Curse|Wish|Yawn

EDIT: They turned out to be off but I got them right now :)

Last edited by oocyst; March 17th, 2012 at 04:32 AM.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Here's my sexy challenge. Best fire type imo.

Houndour
Male | Timid | Flash Fire | Lv.15
Howl | Ember | Smog | Roar
31 | 23 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31 [HP 70]
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Old March 16th, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Challenge complete. Chimchar is actually my second favorite fire type, but since I RNG'd Growlithe for the first challenge, I decided Chimchar would work just fine for this one.



Chimchar | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Naive | Blaze | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Scratch | Leer | U-Turn | XXXX



Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac of York View Post
Nice Kyurem! I know what you mean, though... that catch rate of 3 is awful. I've had to restart many times due to being stubborn and wanting it in a certain ball!

EDIT: I've been a very busy, but naughty boy! Three more injected Wondercards. Next up is Deoxys-A. All are in 4th Gen.


Celebi ♁ Lv. 50
OT: WIN2011 | ID: 2211
Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 8, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Leaf Storm, Recover, Nasty Plot, Healing Wish
Not For Trade


Jirachi ♁ Lv. 5
OT: SMR2010 | ID: 6260
Nature: Careful
Ability: Serene Grace
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Wish, Confusion, Rest, Draco Meteor
Not For Trade


Shaymin ♁ Lv. 30
OT: Oblivia | ID: 3060
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
IVs: 31, 6, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Growth, Magical Leaf, Leech Seed, Synthesis
Not For Trade
Thank you, but yeah, that catch rate can get very annoying. Love the Celebi and the Shaymin...they are two of the very few grass types that I actually like.

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i'm gonna do Kyurem soon too, well after i finish my new game T.T
i want it shiny, that purple looks awesome, don't know what ball though, maybe another dive ball.
Thank you. Dive ball would be perfect for Kyurem, you should go for it. Hopefully you have better luck with the catch rate than I did. Took me forever.


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Congrats. Kyurem is my fav <3
Thank you. Kyurem is my favorite 5th gen legendary for sure.


Black FC: 1163 5272 5840
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Old March 17th, 2012, 04:59 AM
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I completed my challenge with something you might not expect. I injected this into my Entralink Forest on my Black. :3


Torchic ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Speed Boost
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 29, 31, 31 Dark 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Scratch, Growl, Focus Energy, Ember
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Old March 17th, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Congratulations! What a wonderful first RNG, if I may say so myself. I hope to see many more from you. Of course if you ever need more help feel free to ask.
Thank you once again; I've now added a 31/31/31/9/31/31 Jolly Shiny Terrakion to that Collection, and a Timid Shiny Virizion that, I can't remember the exact IVs, but they're all in the 30s and equate to Hidden power Rock 70. So really pleased with those. :D

Took me three tries to get the Virizion to appear, but terrakion was a first try again.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 09:18 AM
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Thank you once again; I've now added a 31/31/31/9/31/31 Jolly Shiny Terrakion to that Collection, and a Timid Shiny Virizion that, I can't remember the exact IVs, but they're all in the 30s and equate to Hidden power Rock 70. So really pleased with those. :D

Took me three tries to get the Virizion to appear, but terrakion was a first try again.
Wow that's great. Soon you'll move onto wild pokemon abuse and the sky's the limit from there!
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Old March 17th, 2012, 01:06 PM
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Thats for everyone's help, particularly TwilightBlade. I realised where I was going wrong; i was trying to match the frame given on the Timefinder screen to one on the PIDRNG screen. i was following TBs guide that she posted in another thread but as that one was going off simply a normal wild encounter, I was going in blind.

However, I gave up on Zekrom because whatever I did, I just couldn't get it right. So I abandoned Zekrom and went straight onto the other stationary legendaries. I'm pleased to report I got:

Cobalion (Shiny, Jolly), 31/31/31/9/31/31

on my first attempt. :D
Hooray! Congrats on the other legends. See, it's not so hard once you figure out what you're doing. xD

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Here's my sexy challenge. Best fire type imo.

Houndour
Male | Timid | Flash Fire | Lv.15
Howl | Ember | Smog | Roar
31 | 23 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31 [HP 70]
Love this! I was thinking about how cool a Houndour in a Lux ball is the other day. :)

Here's what I've been working on recently in gen 5. Mienfoo was a BP. Pansage is for a St. Patrick's giveaway. Volcarona is for the fire challenge. I bought 65 Dive Balls and she got in the first one! teh bubbles!


Mienfoo ♀ ★
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Naive | Regenerator | Hidden Power
Pound | Baton Pass | Knock Off | Low Kick
31 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31


Shamrock the Simisage ♂ ★
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Timid | Gluttony | Hidden Power
Nasty Plot | Leaf Storm | Focus Blast | Hidden Power
31 | 22 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31


Volcarona ♀
OT: Alice ID: 57098
Timid | Flame Body | Hidden Power
Silver Wind | Quiver Dance | Heat Wave | Bug Buzz
31 | 2 | 30 | 31 | 31 | 31
Even if it's a short life, burn hot and bright and overtake the moment. That's my way of life.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:02 PM
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Wow, this place has a lot of good RNG abuses...
I'd like to do one and I kinda understand now, but I need some aesthetic advice. I'd like to catch a Ditto...which ball should I use? Quick Ball or Great Ball? Or should I use another kind of ball?
Thanks!
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:39 PM
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Wow, this place has a lot of good RNG abuses...
I'd like to do one and I kinda understand now, but I need some aesthetic advice. I'd like to catch a Ditto...which ball should I use? Quick Ball or Great Ball? Or should I use another kind of ball?
Thanks!
Pink Ditto = Heal Ball
Shiny Ditto = Dive Ball :D
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Old March 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
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... ... ...Pink Ditto? Ditto's purple. (What should I use?) And also...if I were to RNG abuse a Legendary Pokemon (this is actually an aesthetic issue again), should I just use a Master Ball? Or should I use other balls? Well, I prefer the Master Ball because I'm tired of catching Legendary Pokemon with other balls (unless if it has an effect that makes the catch rate higher). I already have 12 Master Balls ready for the legendary Pokemon!
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