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Old April 9th, 2012 (10:06 AM).
ZElectricfear ZElectricfear is offline
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Please go easy on me i have never done any competitive pokemon but i want to start and a also need another Pokemon i'm out of ideas. Also anyone know how to explain EV training?

In no specific order...

Shadow Ball
Calm mind
Singnal Beam


Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse

Aerial Ace
Dragon Rush

Ice Beam
Hydro Pump
Sheer Cold (more lulz?)

6th Unknown

Please rate and give me tips and tricks. I'm open to criticism.

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Old April 9th, 2012 (10:27 AM).
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For Typhlosion I would recommend Focus Blast and either Earthquake or Wild Charge to replace Rollout and Double Edge there since you'll get better coverage in general.

For Lucario I'd give it Swords Dance, Close Combat, and either Crunch or Stone Edge to replace Dark Pulse, Aura Sphere, and Dragon Pulse so you can have a menacing physical sweeper that can wreck your opponent's team in the blink of an eye.

For Dragonite I would give it Dragon Dance, Outrage, Fire Punch, and Earthquake over the current set you got there for the same reasons I stated with Typhlosion and Lucario.

And for Lapras I would recommend something along the lines of Thunderbolt or Ice Shard to replace Sheer Cold since OHKO moves are banned in competitive play and all.

Hope that helps.
Old April 9th, 2012 (10:35 AM).
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thank you kind sir, you get my first hug c:
Old April 9th, 2012 (4:57 PM).
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This should clear things up a bit.

Anyway, on with the rate.

Espeon should always use the Magic Bounce ability, since that's what makes it so good now. Use Hidden Power (Fighting) over Signal Beam or Shadow Ball, since Espeon is walled by Steels at the moment.

Typhlosion isn't very good in OU because of the prevalence of Stealth Rock. Eruption does give it somewhat of a niche though:
-Fire Blast
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Grass/Electric)
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Dragonite should also use Multiscale because it's what makes it bulky. Like Espeon, it's walled by Steels. Fly is too easy to get around competitively because the opponent can switch to something that can take the attack the next turn:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale

-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/44 Atk/212 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale

OHKO moves are banned because they require too much luck to work. Lapras' stats are suited to supporting (and even sweeping for the surprise factor), but its defensive typing is weak. Cloyster is a somewhat better choice because of Shell Smash, despite the defensive leaning stats:
-Shell Smash
-Icicle Spear
-Rock Blast
-Razor Shell/Hydro Pump
Nature: Jolly/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe or 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: White Herb/Lum Berry/Focus Sash/Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link

Old April 10th, 2012 (4:39 PM).
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shelder... i would have never thought. anyway 2nd hug goes to you c:
Old April 10th, 2012 (5:18 PM).
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Originally Posted by ZElectricfear View Post
shelder... i would have never thought. anyway 2nd hug goes to you c:
Use Cloyster. Cloyster with Focus Sash will destroy anything that lacks priority moves. I commonly sweep entire teams with mine.

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