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Old April 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
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I've been meaning to RNG this guy for so long.



Vappy | Level 1
Aaron | 06293 | White
Calm | Hydration | 31 16 31 31 31 31
Rest, Scald, Toxic, Wish.

A Pokémon I have always relied on... I just can't go past Vaporeon. When my brother first showed me how to play Pokémon on Pokémon Red when I was little, the first Pokémon I ever used was a Vaporeon, ever since that day, it has been my favourite Pokémon and has never changed. Whenever I used to play Red when I was little, my Vaporeon would always be so overlevelled because I would always use it over other Pokémon. Since then I have used countless Vaporeon, whether they were on my in-game teams, challenges, Pokémon Online teams, and more. On in-game teams, Vaporeon is always one of the, if not the best and most reliable Pokémon on the team. In generation I games, Vaporeon can be taught Ice Beam from the TM in Celadon City, giving it a great move. Vaporeon's high bulk allow it to take hits weaker Pokémon on in-game teams can't, and with 110 base Sp. Atk, it can do lots of damage with STAB Surf. I could always rely on Vaporeon in other games too, like Pokémon Mystry Dungeon, where I was a girl, just so I could play as Vaporeon, and later in Sky where she was my partner Pokémon, and one that never let me down. I've used tons of Vaporeon in my challenges over the years. In my Ultimate Trio-Species Challenge, it was always the hardest hitting and the best at taking hits of the three and in my Hall of Fame Challenge, on the last team, Vaporeon was the MVP and out of all the Pokémon that I had used in the entire challenge before it, it grew the most levels. Vaporeon is the Pokémon I always use on my Pokéwalker, so it never leaves my side... literally. I've used many Vaporeon on Pokémon Online with different movesets, but I've RNGed this one to match the one I am currently using. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that my Vaporeon is the Pokémon I rely on most. Mine knows Acid Armor, Scald, Rest and Toxic. It has a Calm nature because after an Acid Armor, his defence isn't a weak point anymore. I've made massive comebacks and swept many times with this Vaporeon. Using Drizzle to my advantage, I switch in, use Acid Armor, Rest if I need to, and then use Toxic followed by more Rests until the opponent slowly, but surely dies. His bulkiness takes so many people by surprise and I find him the funnest to battle with. This is why I have RNGed my favourite Pokémon, Vaporeon for the trusty talisman challenge!
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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:44 AM
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How does one go about RNGing a roaming tornadus? From what I've read the rain really ****s up your PIDRNG, not to mention there's hardly a reliable way to find it.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:23 AM
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I managed to figure out Wonder Card RNGing and did this Victini. It was pretty easy in the end to manage, PPRNG has gotten really good! I also RNGed a shiny Staryu, because I thought, why not? Now I just have to learn this 4th gen stuff, I really just want to RNG this Lugia to be flawless in SoulSilver.



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Movie14 | 12031 | White
Jolly | Victory Star | 31 31 31 23 31 31
V-Create, Fusion Flare, Fusion Bolt, Searing Shot.


Staryu | Level 1
Aaron | 06293 | White
Timid | Natural Cure | 31 4 31 31 31 31
Tackle, Harden, Gyro Ball, Light Screen.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:52 AM
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How does one go about RNGing a roaming tornadus? From what I've read the rain really ****s up your PIDRNG, not to mention there's hardly a reliable way to find it.
The only thing you can do is hit your seed and try to catch it with the right nature. It can take really long, so be patient. Good luck!

@ Vaporeon7
You made my want to get a shiny Staryu! Me, HeartGold, Good Rod, Shiny Flawless Timid Staryu, NOW!
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Old April 18th, 2012, 05:27 AM
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Awww I love your Vaporeon...Vaporeon. XD It's so pretty and purple and we both RNG'd an Eevee so they can be best friends and stuff. Or somethin. idk. But I like it. :>
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Old April 18th, 2012, 05:37 AM
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This has nothing to do with anything, but I successfully did my first 4th gen abuse!!


♂ | Lv. 17 | Caught at Route 209 | Lv. 17
Bold Nature | Synchronize | OT: Wolf | ID: 00338
<Crap IV's> | obviously, shiny ;
Confusion | Double Team | Teleport | Lucky Chant

May not be my lucky charm, but it does know Lucky Chant xD
This was caught to be a Synchronizer for Giratina...Shiny Giratina, here I come!
Very nice and good luck with future abuses! :D Now, go get the challenge done if you can. :D

Also, very good entries so far everyone B) I can see this will be difficult for me to choose.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:32 PM
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Argh I did the challenge, also my first fishing RNG!



Chinchou
Volt Absorb|lvl. 43|Calm
31|15|31|31|31|31
Bubblebeam|Signal Beam|Discharge|Aqua Ring


So ever since I played my first Pokemon game, Crystal, I've had Lanturn on my team. When I was just a little 8(?) year old boy I went out to New Bark Town and started fishing with my good rod. The first pokemon I got hooked was Chinchou, and it was love at first sight. I trained him until it turned into Lanturn, and I saw how strong he was. He was one of my favourites. So since then I have always had him in my playthrough teams in every game. Lanturn is just my faithful companion.

IN MEMORY OF LANTURN
(Who passed away in a milk spill)
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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:12 PM
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I made this as a gift to someone, but clearly you can't tell who it's for! olooololloloLOLOLOL


Toujours / Larvesta (f) lv. 1
Flame Body | Modest
Cedric | 26099
30/22/31/31/30/30 HP Rock 70
[ Ember, String Shot, Morning Sun, Hidden Power ]
-hatched in Desert Resort-


I wanted shiny, but just couldn't find one. I think this will do though. Most time on this was spent searching for a shiny spread. No luck, but I still like how this turned out. I like Volcarona's color shiny or regular anyway so...!
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Old April 18th, 2012, 07:51 PM
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Hello everyone! I'm the new guy here and I hope I can learn how to RNG properly like all of you so clearly can. I believe I understand everything as I've read through TwilightBlade's guide which was just completely amazing =p. I came here looking for a guide on RNG abusing and maybe for some tips from the pros, the first is accomplished so now I just need the second . I've been trying to RNG a flawless shiny Rufflet as my fiancee thought it was the cutest Pokemon in all of existence, so I'll try posting that later on if I can get it >.<. Any general advice any of you could provide to a newbie?

EDIT: Just got it, what do you guys think? =) I don't yet have 15 posts so I can't use the images from the Pokecheck BBcode thing. v.v


Rufflet ♂ lvl 1
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Sheer Force
OT: Shinies ♂ TID: 49098
IVs: 31/31/31/13/31/31
EVs: 0/0/0/0/0/0 - Untrained
Moves: Peck, Leer, Hone Claws, Aerial Ace
Met: Day-Care Couple


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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:06 PM
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It's cool you've learned how to abuse, congrats! Your girlfriend is right, Ruffet is super cute!

Well, it's hard to give tips when there's no problem. If you find and obstacle while you RNG abue, just post here your problem and we'll try to solve it together. That's how our tips work.

For more practice in RNG, why don't you take part in our current challenge? you can read about it in the first post.

And a pr0tip: just post some random questions in Help Centers, or some general gaming threads. That's how I got my first 15 posts XD
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:20 PM
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It took me a bit to figure everything out.. I just went by smogon's guide, a few youtube videos, TwilightBlade's guide, and a few other random things I researched.

To be honest, it was a little discouraging at first because I was trying to find where my Pokemon were coming from, I wasn't getting Pokemon from my Seed at all. I have to thank TwilightBlade for the information that NPC's reset when you go onto a route and the method of biking up to the Day Care man.

It also helped a bit to determine the starting frame by calculating the IVs of the first egg you receive. For some strange reason though, after I found the actual starting frame and hard reset my game, I didn't hit my seed after starting my game. I don't know why or how (I'm 100% certain I pressed A on the exact second) but I didn't hit my seed o.o. I guess you need to go through everything multiple times to get your good pokemon.. Oh, and my target frame was only seven off of my initial frame, LUCKY! :D

I read about the challenge and it sounded interesting.. But I can't go and RNG a Mewtwo >.< I don't know how to RNG in Firered plus my Firered is at the beginning of the game. I guess I could go for SoulSilver but I'd have to start all over on that as well xD Too many Pokemon on there to just start over without transferring them though Maybe I can find someone to help me out. Also, the reason it would have to be Mewtwo is the fact that it's my favorite Pokemon, it has been ever since I played Red. Ahh.. The days when you could have a Mewtwo with Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, Ice beam, Psychic and completely own the Elite 4 over and over with a pitiful nature.. Loved those childhood memories.

By the way, this is post #2 so I think staying here is upping my post count perfectly

EDIT: I think TwilightBlade's guide is twenty times better than Smogon's. ^-^
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:27 PM
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Well the information about NPCs in Blade's guide is mine, actually, lol. I'm glad it helped.
Unfortunately, RNG mechanics in FRLG aren't fully discovered, so we can't abuse in those games yet. Also, 4th Gen has different mechanics than Black and White. You should've download Mewtwo event when it was available (or just not get it from the delivery man).
If you want to bump your post count, why don't you reply to the current discussion topic? Yes, you can find it in the first post as well. :D
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:34 PM
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Oh then I'm thankful for your help =) Definitely 10/10 rated information. I know that 4th generation is different but it can't be more difficult than your game making you miss a seed just because it hates you.

My reply to the current topic.. Hmm.. Well I'm hoping that the mechanics for the Masuda Method are more effective in B2/W2. The only thing I think could change is maybe triple type Pokemon or double type moves based on White and black Kyurem. Ice/Fire Would dominate Parasect and other weird grass pokemon. If none of that happens then would White and Black Kyurem be missing their dragon type? =o
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:40 PM
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Well, In 4th Gen your game hates you more. Let me explain.

In BW, your seed can be in the earlier part of the second, or in the later part of the second. You have to check this out on your own. This also depends on the seed itself. You have to feel it.
In 4th Gen you have to hit precisely target 1/50 of the second.

What did you say about the game hate?
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:43 PM
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Hmm.. That is significantly harder of a seed to hit, but you just have to do it over and over until you finally get it~ So why is it so much easier in the fifth generation?
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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:58 PM
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The creators just used easier generating engine, why they did so? We don't know.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 12:05 AM
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Simple enough, I honestly don't see why the game has to be this random though O_o I guess it's to stop people from abusing the RNG system and to make it seem more random but the latter isn't a real problem. Also do you think it would be better for me to have a rufflet with 30 Sp.Attack or just the 13? I went with 13 because the frame was low but 30 would look nice =o
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Old April 19th, 2012, 12:24 AM
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Do whatever you like. It won't use Special attack anyway.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 12:31 AM
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Simple enough, I honestly don't see why the game has to be this random though O_o I guess it's to stop people from abusing the RNG system and to make it seem more random but the latter isn't a real problem. Also do you think it would be better for me to have a rufflet with 30 Sp.Attack or just the 13? I went with 13 because the frame was low but 30 would look nice =o
If you think it looks cool do it! It's not as fun if it isn't challenging to get there, sometimes I want to throw my DS in frustration, but the harder the stuff you try and RNG (higher seeds, 12-15 second range, key-presses) the more you learn; and faster. You'll feel happier when you hit the seed and frame as well . I can try to give you tips about hitting your seed time, one such is that when you're trying to hit a delay you can sometimes preempt the time or not act quickly enough. What I'm trying to say is don't try and hit the exact second as it lands, because you might overcompensate and press too early, just hit it when you see it tick, and, provided you don't have .5 second reflexes, you'll be fine. Also, if you have key-presses I've found that the order seems to be important. Maybe I just focus harder when I follow an order, but I like to press in the order RNGReporter prints, and let go in reverse (so B-Select-Left is pressed in that order and released as Left-Select-B). It's probably just a stupid superstitious ritual, but it's helped me so idk, might work for you too. Most importantly though is try and make it fun, and don't focus exclusively on RNG'ing have a TV show or Music running in the background, that way you have something to focus on when you're mindlessly advancing your frame, I say mindlessly because you just work with your left and right hands at the same time, one on the numpad in notepad or whatever and the other on the d-pad, press one, press the other, that way you don't have to think.

tl;dr RNG challenging pokemon, don't stress over hitting seed time, key-pressing in order might help, have something else to focus on when doing the mindless sh*t, make the mindless sh*t reflexive.

This is all from me RNG'ing in B/W, so idk how much of it is relevant.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 01:18 AM
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Thanks for all the tips MrCrazyHans! =) You know what.. I'll be back with a second Rufflet, I'll just have one completely UT! There's a common saying that two are better than one, yes? =P
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Thanks for all the tips MrCrazyHans! =) You know what.. I'll be back with a second Rufflet, I'll just have one completely UT! There's a common saying that two are better than one, yes? =P
Indeed it is, RNG as much stuff as you can for no reason at all :D

I didn't want to cram too much into one post, so I'll leave this tip here. If there's any auditory feedback when you do something to advance your frame (chatot chattering, journal flipping, whatever(do flipping forward and backward have the same sound?)). Have the sound on low, that way you'll subconsciously notice if something went wrong while doing other stuff. This may only work for chatot chattering, but it's awesome.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 03:05 AM
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I couldn't really listen to the pitch of the chatots unfortunately but I got another one! =) Completely flawless shiny this time!



Rufflet ♂ lvl 1
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Sheer Force
OT: Shinies ♂ TID: 49098
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs: 0/0/0/0/0/0 - Untrained
Moves: Peck, Leer, Hone Claws, Aerial Ace
Met: Day-Care Couple


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Old April 19th, 2012, 05:27 AM
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Nice Rufflets! You're really coming along quickly -- good luck with more abuses.

I'd like to present my entry for the challenge:


Porygon2 ♁ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Modest
Ability: Download
IVs: 31, 0, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt, Round, Ice Beam
Non-Redis

Porygon2 is one of the pokes that I have always relied on, at least in battle, because of the fantastic addition of the eviolite. I don't have a Poke that I've always relied on since I took a twelve year break from Pokemon and then didn't come back until last year so... yeah. I really love this little duck and it's not really scared of anything. I was on PO one time and it traced a Shedinja's Wonder Guard xD That was a lot of fun! I decided to rng an offensive one this time with Download and Modest because I don't have one yet and I think it would be a lot of fun to try it out.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 05:34 AM
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Thanks Mac, those were my first and second ever RNG abuses. Do you think I aimed too high for my first? xD

Nice Porygon 2~ How long did it take you to get? =o
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Old April 19th, 2012, 05:58 AM
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Thanks Mac, those were my first and second ever RNG abuses. Do you think I aimed too high for my first? xD

Nice Porygon 2~ How long did it take you to get? =o
Nah, you did fine for your first xD Too high would be something like roamer or entralink or something difficult. The Porygon2 took me about ten minutes to find a seed and five minutes to abuse. I decided to do it on Black instead of HGSS because I didn't feel like hitting delay.
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