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Old April 21st, 2012, 09:04 AM
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I'd be stoked to see Chili have his own gym. ;; <3
I'm hoping they make the order seem somewhat random as to which gym you travel to. I mean yeah consistency is great, but ti'd be kinda cool going to a Fire Gym and then all of a sudden arrive to a Fighting type Gym. :'D
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Old April 21st, 2012, 05:04 PM
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I'd be stoked to see Chili have his own gym. ;; <3
I'm hoping they make the order seem somewhat random as to which gym you travel to. I mean yeah consistency is great, but ti'd be kinda cool going to a Fire Gym and then all of a sudden arrive to a Fighting type Gym. :'D
But then the tradition of eight gyms would break down into... wait... you're saying if Chili had killed his brothers and got the gym as an inheritance?!
Murderers in Pokemon?! Paradox time!
Anyways even if they did give Chili his own gym does that mean the brothers would spread out and take other people's gyms? Or they could just randomly make their own cities in that 2 years time (or whatever amount of time elapses) and those cities could be called "The Elemental Cites".
I just completely went off topic in my own post. Huh.:\
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He killed his own brothers? Awesome.
...but nah. I think if he had his own gym it might just be because the other two concentrated on their food serving business tbh.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 07:29 PM
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I was in the Union tower in BW and noticed that the flags were Purple,Blue,Pink,Grey, Red, Yellow, and I forgot the two other colors, but either way I noticed that two of the colors, Purple and Blue match with Poison and Blue, so perhaps B2W2's gyms were hinted at in BW, and if right we might see Elesa again, and Clay (orange is sand like),and we might get a fire gym, or maybe fighting (as it's also represented by the color red).
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I'm more curious as to why do they feel the need to add/replace with more new gym leaders. I mean, what's becoming of the old ones? It's not like they just simply all retired during the span of two years .
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 03:46 AM
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I was in the Union tower in BW and noticed that the flags were Purple,Blue,Pink,Grey, Red, Yellow, and I forgot the two other colors, but either way I noticed that two of the colors, Purple and Blue match with Poison and Blue, so perhaps B2W2's gyms were hinted at in BW, and if right we might see Elesa again, and Clay (orange is sand like),and we might get a fire gym, or maybe fighting (as it's also represented by the color red).
Yeah I dunno... I wouldn't rely upon that. While I do think that Elesa will make a return and sadly won't have a modelling career, I think that might be looking into hints a bit too much.

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I'm more curious as to why do they feel the need to add/replace with more new gym leaders. I mean, what's becoming of the old ones? It's not like they just simply all retired during the span of two years .
Yeah I wonder too tbh. Maybe it's just a few of them that have just moved on with their lives, doesn't necessarily have to be all!

Still like this idea of fire gymmm.
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I'm more curious as to why do they feel the need to add/replace with more new gym leaders. I mean, what's becoming of the old ones? It's not like they just simply all retired during the span of two years .
I agree- I mean, considering they're giving us a game based in the same region as a previous game, new Gym leaders is something you'd just.. expect, hands down. But I'm quite curious as to how they plan on executing it- they've introduced two new Gyms, meaning two other gyms will have to be gone. Or maybe not? Seeing as GameFreak seemed to kinda say "Just because we did this a lot doesn't make it tradition" with Black and White (for example, making TMs permanent, making it so you can face the E4 in any order, etc). So with Black 2/White 2, there's really no way of knowing whether they've ADDED two new Gyms instead of replacing them.
Anyway, even with that in mind, I'm expecting some of the other Gyms to change Leader/type; that's really the only way to freshen up the Gym quest. I agree with Forever, a Fire-type Gym would be cool, but like many others I'd like to see a Dark-type Gym for once. Even though there's a Dark-type E4 member, I think it'd be really great to finally get a Dark-type Gym.
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Idk I don't think there will be a dark elite four member and if we're allowing extra gyms or replacing more than just two, dark will definitely be a gym. I just feel that... with the whole two years later thing, anything is possible.
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For me personally.. if it was just 8 gym leaders [Just my personal hopes]
Spoiler:

[1] Homika [Poison]:
[2] Chilli [Fire]: He's been more or less completely redesigned apart from his red hair. Moved to Driftveil.
--- Player asked to visit Castelia City ---
[3]Aloe [Normal]: More or less the same, but moved to Castelia City. Gym is no longer in that small room but the full museum.
[4]Elesa [Electric]: No longer a model, but a full time gym leader. Features a new hair style and clothing. Rollercoaster updated.
[5]Burgh [Bug]: More or less the same. Exclusive to White at White Forest.
[5]New Male [Steel]: Old man Exclusive to Black at Black City.
[6]Shizui [Water]: Undella Bay Gym Leader
--- Player heads to the New Town/Location with the aeroplane and flown to Mistralton ---
[7]New Male/Female Duo [Ice]: Irricius Gym Leaders. Young couple similar to eskimo's in terms of design. Actually Brycens relatives.
[8]Iris [Dragon]: Sole Opelucid Gym leader. Looks a little older with new clothing

Elite Four:
[1] Shauntal [Ghost]
[2] New Elite Four Member [Grass]
[3] Caitlin [Psychic]
[4] Grimsley [Dark]
[C] Marshal [Fighting]

After your battle with Marshal, Cheren turns up wanting to battle him, but discovers you are the new Champion. He then asks to battle you inwhich you get the option to battle him or not. If not, he appears in Nuvema Town where you can battle him.

Brycen, Skyla, Clay, Cilan and Cress all appear ingame.
- Brycen appears at this movie place, speaking about his past acting career and gym leader career.
- Skyla is a full-time pilot (and the one to take you from the new aeroplane town to Mistralton)
- Clay appears in Twist Mountain, and also is present in Nimbassa in one of the buildings, (he's an owner of a big company in BW, it's just never specified, so I think he would appear as apart of the company)
- Cilan appears in the Café Sonata, which is much bigger now (and also doesn't host the Meloetta event in BW2 but somewhere else). Speaks about his two brothers.
- Cress appears as a Waiter in the Village Bridge Restaurant, speaks about his two brothers.
- Drayden doesn't appear, however is mentioned by Iris, hinting that he passed away.


And if just more are added [No particular order]
Spoiler:

Chilli - Now sole Striaton Gym Leader.
Cilan - Gym Leader of White Forest (Exclusive to White 2).
New Steel Leader - Gym Leader of Black City (Exclusive to Black 2)
Homika - One of the new towns at the beginning.
Shizui - Undella Bay gym leader.
Aloe - Switched gyms with Burgh and moved to Castelia.
Burgh - Switched gyms with Aloea and moved to Nacrene.
Elesa - Same Nimbasa gym leader.
Clay - Same Dritfveil gym leader.
Skyla - Same Mistralton gym leader.
Brycen - Same Irricus gym leader.
Iris - Sole Opelucid gym leader. (Drayden hinted to have passed away)

Cress said he didn't want to be a gym leader anymore, so took management of the Village Bridge Restaurant.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 05:07 AM
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^ Anything is most definitely possible. And hey, G/S/C, HG/SS had a Dragon type gym AND a Dragon type Champion. Emerald did the same thing with the Water type. So maybe there will be a Dark gym and a Dark Elite Four member. But I agree with giradialkia, Game Freak has pretty much avoided tradition with Black and White, who's to say they won't be doing it again for Black 2 and White 2? It'd be pretty dang different if they added two more gyms, rather than replacing, making it ten possible badges to collect. That'd be decently cool, actually.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 07:33 AM
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Anything is most definitely possible.
If so, then couldn't there be more Blue/Gary/Green/person Gyms? He's been the main diverse gym leader there is out there (or the only one? I can't remember...) and I'm getting a bit tired of my strategy when it comes to specialized Gyms. My strategy=spam attacks that're type weakness related. The specialized Gyms could at least throw in a Pokemon that's not to the specialized theme.
Imagine Chili with his Pansear and Darumaka... Electabuzz and Tympole. They could cover each other's weaknesses and whatnot.
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For me personally.. if it was just 8 gym leaders [Just my personal hopes]
Spoiler:

[1] Homika [Poison]:
[2] Chilli [Fire]: He's been more or less completely redesigned apart from his red hair. Moved to Driftveil.
--- Player asked to visit Castelia City ---
[3]Aloe [Normal]: More or less the same, but moved to Castelia City. Gym is no longer in that small room but the full museum.
[4]Elesa [Electric]: No longer a model, but a full time gym leader. Features a new hair style and clothing. Rollercoaster updated.
[5]Burgh [Bug]: More or less the same. Exclusive to White at White Forest.
[5]New Male [Steel]: Old man Exclusive to Black at Black City.
[6]Shizui [Water]: Undella Bay Gym Leader
--- Player heads to the New Town/Location with the aeroplane and flown to Mistralton ---
[7]New Male/Female Duo [Ice]: Irricius Gym Leaders. Young couple similar to eskimo's in terms of design. Actually Brycens relatives.
[8]Iris [Dragon]: Sole Opelucid Gym leader. Looks a little older with new clothing

Elite Four:
[1] Shauntal [Ghost]
[2] New Elite Four Member [Grass]
[3] Caitlin [Psychic]
[4] Grimsley [Dark]
[C] Marshal [Fighting]

After your battle with Marshal, Cheren turns up wanting to battle him, but discovers you are the new Champion. He then asks to battle you inwhich you get the option to battle him or not. If not, he appears in Nuvema Town where you can battle him.

Brycen, Skyla, Clay, Cilan and Cress all appear ingame.
- Brycen appears at this movie place, speaking about his past acting career and gym leader career.
- Skyla is a full-time pilot (and the one to take you from the new aeroplane town to Mistralton)
- Clay appears in Twist Mountain, and also is present in Nimbassa in one of the buildings, (he's an owner of a big company in BW, it's just never specified, so I think he would appear as apart of the company)
- Cilan appears in the Café Sonata, which is much bigger now (and also doesn't host the Meloetta event in BW2 but somewhere else). Speaks about his two brothers.
- Cress appears as a Waiter in the Village Bridge Restaurant, speaks about his two brothers.
- Drayden doesn't appear, however is mentioned by Iris, hinting that he passed away.


And if just more are added [No particular order]
Spoiler:

Chilli - Now sole Striaton Gym Leader.
Cilan - Gym Leader of White Forest (Exclusive to White 2).
New Steel Leader - Gym Leader of Black City (Exclusive to Black 2)
Homika - One of the new towns at the beginning.
Shizui - Undella Bay gym leader.
Aloe - Switched gyms with Burgh and moved to Castelia.
Burgh - Switched gyms with Aloea and moved to Nacrene.
Elesa - Same Nimbasa gym leader.
Clay - Same Dritfveil gym leader.
Skyla - Same Mistralton gym leader.
Brycen - Same Irricus gym leader.
Iris - Sole Opelucid gym leader. (Drayden hinted to have passed away)

Cress said he didn't want to be a gym leader anymore, so took management of the Village Bridge Restaurant.
I'd love to see Chili open up his own Fire type gym. Especially since the anime hints towards that. I never really thought about where Cilan/Cress would go, but your idea works perfectly. :D

Though I'd actually prefer if Lenora just opened her museum, I don't really see the purpose of her being in Castelia.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 08:08 AM
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Highly doubtful and if she did have Kami trio I'd prefer them to be different pending on what game you play.

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lool yeah if only it wasn't legendary, she might finally be a good gym leader. But sadly no, I doubt it. :x



Hmmm what'd be at that gym though? I can't think of anything that'd fit into that, unless it's a multi-type gym, which may be likely in the later cities tbh.
For me just needs some better pokes like Braviary <3. There was other Flying types to work with so I can see a better team then the one they had to offer pending she is still a leader.

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There arent any ??? type Pokemon except ??? Arceus, so I dont think we could have a gym like that. I wouldnt mind a Dark type gym however. This could be the generation where we get one of those.
Probably alluding to Gary/Blue gym like in GSC/HGSS where its a mixed type gym.

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Although the Pokémon Anime isn't canon to the games, could this possibly be a hint for a Fire-type Gym with Chili?

Here's a quote from Chili to Pansear from the anime -
"Pansear I'm really sorry. I totally feel bad, know what? I've got a dream! That you and I will open a gym, the very first fire type gym in the Unova region! To do that, we need to master everything about fire types first."

Just a thought!
Personally I don't want to see Chili as a leader. I didn't care for the trio in the game or their monkeys so I'd rather not see a gym focusing on him alone for that matter.

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But then the tradition of eight gyms would break down into... wait... you're saying if Chili had killed his brothers and got the gym as an inheritance?!
Murderers in Pokemon?! Paradox time!
Anyways even if they did give Chili his own gym does that mean the brothers would spread out and take other people's gyms? Or they could just randomly make their own cities in that 2 years time (or whatever amount of time elapses) and those cities could be called "The Elemental Cites".
I just completely went off topic in my own post. Huh.:\
Well if they are going by the anime then Cress would be the one still at Striaton and Cilan and Chili are traveling. So I don't see how the scenario would be in the game.

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I'm more curious as to why do they feel the need to add/replace with more new gym leaders. I mean, what's becoming of the old ones? It's not like they just simply all retired during the span of two years .
My guess is for a sense of freshness to the game. They and me personally wouldn't want the same 8 since this is a sequel after all. They don't necessarily have to lose their jobs there could just be more gyms available. Some at the same time could have retired or have been promoted to Elite 4.

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For me personally.. if it was just 8 gym leaders [Just my personal hopes]
Spoiler:

[1] Homika [Poison]:
[2] Chilli [Fire]: He's been more or less completely redesigned apart from his red hair. Moved to Driftveil.
--- Player asked to visit Castelia City ---
[3]Aloe [Normal]: More or less the same, but moved to Castelia City. Gym is no longer in that small room but the full museum.
[4]Elesa [Electric]: No longer a model, but a full time gym leader. Features a new hair style and clothing. Rollercoaster updated.
[5]Burgh [Bug]: More or less the same. Exclusive to White at White Forest.
[5]New Male [Steel]: Old man Exclusive to Black at Black City.
[6]Shizui [Water]: Undella Bay Gym Leader
--- Player heads to the New Town/Location with the aeroplane and flown to Mistralton ---
[7]New Male/Female Duo [Ice]: Irricius Gym Leaders. Young couple similar to eskimo's in terms of design. Actually Brycens relatives.
[8]Iris [Dragon]: Sole Opelucid Gym leader. Looks a little older with new clothing

Elite Four:
[1] Shauntal [Ghost]
[2] New Elite Four Member [Grass]
[3] Caitlin [Psychic]
[4] Grimsley [Dark]
[C] Marshal [Fighting]

After your battle with Marshal, Cheren turns up wanting to battle him, but discovers you are the new Champion. He then asks to battle you inwhich you get the option to battle him or not. If not, he appears in Nuvema Town where you can battle him.

Brycen, Skyla, Clay, Cilan and Cress all appear ingame.
- Brycen appears at this movie place, speaking about his past acting career and gym leader career.
- Skyla is a full-time pilot (and the one to take you from the new aeroplane town to Mistralton)
- Clay appears in Twist Mountain, and also is present in Nimbassa in one of the buildings, (he's an owner of a big company in BW, it's just never specified, so I think he would appear as apart of the company)
- Cilan appears in the Café Sonata, which is much bigger now (and also doesn't host the Meloetta event in BW2 but somewhere else). Speaks about his two brothers.
- Cress appears as a Waiter in the Village Bridge Restaurant, speaks about his two brothers.
- Drayden doesn't appear, however is mentioned by Iris, hinting that he passed away.


And if just more are added [No particular order]
Spoiler:

Chilli - Now sole Striaton Gym Leader.
Cilan - Gym Leader of White Forest (Exclusive to White 2).
New Steel Leader - Gym Leader of Black City (Exclusive to Black 2)
Homika - One of the new towns at the beginning.
Shizui - Undella Bay gym leader.
Aloe - Switched gyms with Burgh and moved to Castelia.
Burgh - Switched gyms with Aloea and moved to Nacrene.
Elesa - Same Nimbasa gym leader.
Clay - Same Dritfveil gym leader.
Skyla - Same Mistralton gym leader.
Brycen - Same Irricus gym leader.
Iris - Sole Opelucid gym leader. (Drayden hinted to have passed away)

Cress said he didn't want to be a gym leader anymore, so took management of the Village Bridge Restaurant.
I like the ideas, but I don't see Shizui location being in Undella more then likely it will be in West Unova. And he will be the second gym leader. Not really high on the idea of Drayden passing away either. I could see him replace Alder if Alder steps down. Or pass on the gym to Iris and just be the mayor of Opelucid.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 08:13 AM
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Personally I don't want to see Chili as a leader. I didn't care for the trio in the game or their monkeys so I'd rather not see a gym focusing on him alone for that matter.
I'd want to see the game focus on one of them. u_u Especially since older Pokémon made their way into the games, I can see Chili having some of them with Pansear (or its evolution) as his main. Not too bad, and I'd like to see it happen. Plus I'm really curious to find out what kind of structure his gym would have.
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^ I dunno, I feel like the great thing about the Striaton Gym is that it was supervised by a trio of close brothers, three basic types coverage,and not just one person specialized in one type of Pokemon.
Letting Chili have his own gym would ruin that charm. :\
I'm still hoping for a fire type gym, though...And a dark type one sounds like an awesome idea.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:06 AM
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^ I dunno, I feel like the great thing about the Striaton Gym is that it was supervised by a trio of close brothers, three basic types coverage,and not just one person specialized in one type of Pokemon.
Letting Chili have his own gym would ruin that charm. :\
I'm still hoping for a fire type gym, though...And a dark type one sounds like an awesome idea.
I wholeheartedly agree. Hate to quote Three Musketeers but their seems to be "All for one and one for all" type of thing going on with their gym. If you take one away or have one gone it seems to ruin the whole aspect or gimmick they were trying to bring with them and the monkeys.

Now I would love to see a Fire Gym, just not one with him as the leader. As far as Dark goes if change in the gym scene occurs I want it to be Dark as that change.
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I was in the Union tower in BW and noticed that the flags were Purple,Blue,Pink,Grey, Red, Yellow, and I forgot the two other colors, but either way I noticed that two of the colors, Purple and Blue match with Poison and Blue, so perhaps B2W2's gyms were hinted at in BW, and if right we might see Elesa again, and Clay (orange is sand like),and we might get a fire gym, or maybe fighting (as it's also represented by the color red).
Going by what I can see from youtube videos it looks like the colors they have are orange, blue, purple, grey, yellow, red, green, and indigo. If they were meant to represent gym types you'd expect to see Fire (orange), Water (blue), Poison (purple), Steel (grey), Electric (yellow), Fighting (red), Grass (green) and Dragon (indigo). Not an impossible mix given what we know currently, but I think it's just that they used the 7 colors of the rainbow plus an extra one (grey) to even out the number.
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Based on the map we will be going Starter City -> Second City -> Port City -> Castella -> Nimbasa -> Driftvell -> etc. Its the same city order cause the other half is still covered in ice on the map. Even if its an advertising ploy, they still show the primary route, so it may only be two Gyms that changed cause only two gyms are covered.
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A good chance that Shizui is in Undella Bay!
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How do we know any gyms have changed? Perhaps we may get to battle the original leaders later on after the Elite 4 or something. This change that happened in Unova might not be permanent( we dont know what it is or what caused it yet, so we cant say its absolutely not reversable yet.)
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 01:26 PM
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A good chance that Shizui is in Undella Bay!
Interesting. But it doesn't make sense since he only has 3 Pokémon on his team. Perhaps after you've beaten the Elite Four he is found over there for a short while? I'm leaning towards his gym being found in an earlier city/town still.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 02:35 PM
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A good chance that Shizui is in Undella Bay!
That looks like a new town, maybe he appears there afterwards to tell the player something, or perhaps that's his hometown.
I'm expecting a fire gym seeing how we have a water gym, possibly even a Grass gym.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 02:48 PM
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This is what I hope will happen in terms of gym leaders:
If 8, in no particular order:
Water: Shizui (blue)
Posien: Homika (purple)
Fighting: Marshel (he was demoted)(red)
Rock: new female leader (orange)
Bug: Burgh (green)
Flying(white)/steel(black): Skyla(a new face among the historic setting)/Jasmine(an old face among the futruistic setting) (grey)
Dragon: Iris (indigo)
Ground: Clay (yellow)
(if ten:
Normal: Aloe
Ghost: Shauntel: (same as Marshal))
Elite Four:
Grass: Cilan, who left his two brothers to run the resturant
Pyschic: Catilin
Electric/Fire: Elesa and a new male, who is insane in the brain(also why the region is still frozen over)
Dark: Grimsly
New Champion: New Villain, who leads a new group with a diffrent person as a figure-head trying to freeze the world over, starting with Unova, leading them from behind the scenes. He lost Kyruem during the main story, who you obtain, but he has replaced him. Mixed, but 4 of the 6 are part Ice types. He replaces Kyruem with the opposite games mascot from the first version.
After you beat the champion, you force him to unfreeze the region, allowing you to visit the past towns. He is then replaced as champion with the main character from the first set who is of your gender.

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Old April 22nd, 2012, 03:42 PM
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So in Black & White, unexpectedly there were no Gym Rematches which may have been done purposely, This brings me to the question do you think there will be Gym rematches in B2W2 considering there were none in Black & White? Also if there are how will they affect the storyline, will there be a purpose for this?
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 04:01 PM
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It wasn't exactly an Unexpected removal. Diamond and Pearl didn't have Gym Rematches. Emerald was the first I think with rematches with the Trainer Eyes, and then Platinum's was through the Villa. HG/SS was through the call feature. All were restricted, HG/SS's being most restricted, you have to call at a specific time period to get them to rematch you and then travel to Saffron for the rematches.

Since this is the first time we have "sequels" in the Pokemon series, its hard to tell whether or not they'd bring them back.
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