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Fifth Generation Are Pokémon slaves to humans? Team Plasma thinks so. Travel the Unova region and prove them wrong in Black & White, and then return two years later in Black2 & White2.

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Old May 1st, 2012, 01:06 AM
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I'd rather have my Ice punch early in the game than my Ice Beam post E4, to be honest. Also, trading nowadays isn't a big deal, so I guess it would be OK to send someone a pokemon just to teach it a TM or two.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 08:43 PM
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Can't believe I forgot Drain Punch! But yes, there needs to be more TMs. I don't care if you have to take some away, like Struggle Bug or Frost Breath.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 05:31 PM
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Can't believe I forgot Drain Punch! But yes, there needs to be more TMs. I don't care if you have to take some away, like Struggle Bug or Frost Breath.
Haha yes, get rid of the rubbish ones! Honestly I doubt they're gonna change the TMs though, this doesn't really seem like something that needs or warrants changing. I think the current ones are alright and you can get most moves that you want from them; adding too many would take the fun/challenge out of breeding! So yeah it'll be interesting to see if they do decide to change the TMs up a bit, but I'm really not expecting them to.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 08:28 PM
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Again I would perfer if they didn't bring back Stealth rock, that tm was overused and imo overrated...
I would like to see Drain punch return, I find it sad that they removed it after one gen and after giving it an update in this one
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:01 PM
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Again I would perfer if they didn't bring back Stealth rock, that tm was overused and imo overrated...
Well, Stealth Rock isn't really, it's actually really useful and helps hurt certain Pokemon which can otherwise be big issues otherwise. For OU, Volc/Dragonite, and for NU, Charizard, etc. So it's definitely a useful TM since even with it these Pokemon are still issues in competitive play. However if the TM was added, then those Pokemon would be less of an issue since there would be more SR users and less need to dedicate an entire spot to it. :x Sooo yeah, it's definitely useful and could be beneficial if returned.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:18 PM
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Well, Stealth Rock isn't really, it's actually really useful and helps hurt certain Pokemon which can otherwise be big issues otherwise. For OU, Volc/Dragonite, and for NU, Charizard, etc. So it's definitely a useful TM since even with it these Pokemon are still issues in competitive play. However if the TM was added, then those Pokemon would be less of an issue since there would be more SR users and less need to dedicate an entire spot to it. :x Sooo yeah, it's definitely useful and could be beneficial if returned.
I always thought that they took out the TMs that they did to balance the Metagame more. They took out the really threatening attacks that would be heavily abused with the Reusable TM thing. Gamefreak supports Metagame so I know they are making more competitive changes to promote Player vs Player battles.

I see bringing back Stealth Rock as a serious issue due to abusibility. It was removed for a reason what ever that may be, and seeing as Gamefreak is pro meta I think that had something to do with it.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 11:22 PM
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But Stealth Rock isn't threatening. XD; It's something that puts Pokemon at bay rather than allow them to just overpower everything. If they really want that they might as well ban them from official tournaments tbh. More users of Stealth Rock would decrease some of the issues now and possibly bring about balance to what is currently not so balanced. :(
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Old May 31st, 2012, 09:38 AM
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All I want is some better TMs like Bug Buzz, Dark Pulse, Stealth Rock, etc...
In BW it ticked me off with moves like Struggle Bug and Incinerate.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 03:17 PM
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I always thought that they took out the TMs that they did to balance the Metagame more. They took out the really threatening attacks that would be heavily abused with the Reusable TM thing. Gamefreak supports Metagame so I know they are making more competitive changes to promote Player vs Player battles.

I see bringing back Stealth Rock as a serious issue due to abusibility. It was removed for a reason what ever that may be, and seeing as Gamefreak is pro meta I think that had something to do with it.
My view is pratically summed up by this. Stealth rock is also better in the hands of the underused rock pokemon that have it, it gives them more of an edge.
Also how about the increase some of the tm's powers, some of them were really quite weak...
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Old May 31st, 2012, 05:09 PM
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My view is pratically summed up by this. Stealth rock is also better in the hands of the underused rock pokemon that have it, it gives them more of an edge.
Also how about the increase some of the tm's powers, some of them were really quite weak...
Oh definitely I'd love increases in accuracy tbh. Focus Blast definitely needs it, not so much power, but ya.

(Is F-Blast a team? I feel it is, either way even if it isn't it should be!)
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Ehh, no Focus blast will become quite broken if so, it's the Blizzard, Thunder, Fire Blast, etc. of the fighting type. What i'll like to see is an increase in the power of Struggle bug.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 08:24 PM
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Ehh, no Focus blast will become quite broken if so, it's the Blizzard, Thunder, Fire Blast, etc. of the fighting type. What i'll like to see is an increase in the power of Struggle bug.
Yeah but Focus Blast has no weather to enhance it, whereas the others do. :x Just maybe an increase of 10% would be amazing so it matches Fire Blast, at least. :(
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Old June 1st, 2012, 09:22 PM
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Yeah but Focus Blast has no weather to enhance it, whereas the others do. :x Just maybe an increase of 10% would be amazing so it matches Fire Blast, at least.
Focus Blast should get a small boost IMO as well. The accuracy sucks on it, and like what you said, no weather enhances it, so an accuracy boost seems to be good.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 12:12 PM
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Four TMs have been confirmed in B2W2 and so far they are still the same. You also get these four in the beginning of the game which is pretty cool.

TM 09 Venoshock from Homika
TM 21 Frustration from an In game event
TM 27 Return from Bianca
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Old June 20th, 2012, 07:19 PM
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Return early on is awesome for things like Sawsbuck. n_n As for the other two, unfortunately not over exciting, but Return is still good for Lillipup so I'm fine w/ that.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Return be epiiiic. Venoshock is pretty neat, too! I hope they do get rid of Incinerate. :c
I hate that move. So useless as time goes on anywhere past CILAN.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:51 PM
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They should at least increase incinerate's powers ( they supposedly changes a types strengths and weaknesses so why not change a tm's power?) to make it slightly more useful like 40 damage.
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Before now, I would have said that TM changes were an impossibility. Up to Gen IV, TMs were holdable items, and so they would cause compatibility issues between games if they were traded. However, since TMs are permanent/non-tradeable in Black/White, I think they could easily make some changes in B2W2.

I also like the confirmed TMs so far, as they're pretty good to have at such an early stage in the game, and should prove useful for some of the crappy moves some Gen V Pokemon have..
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TM 55 Scald (Given by Shizui)
TM 94 Snarl (Unknown gift)

Both of these were confirmed to be in the game.
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Well we do know Fireblast,Thunder, and Blizzard are coming back they been in every game since RBY
But, i wonder what the hms would be and if we still hace dive there better be better diving places than B/W mediocre diving places
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Old June 21st, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Well we do know Fireblast,Thunder, and Blizzard are coming back they been in every game since RBY
But, i wonder what the hms would be and if we still hace dive there better be better diving places than B/W mediocre diving places
The only Diving place that was in Unova is gone now I think. The Abyssal Ruins isn't on the map anymore so we may lose Dive as an HM. Or we could keep it in place of changing out to Whirlpool seeing as both of those would be useless in the story...but I can't see us not having our 8 HMs and don't see anything else coming back in unless they have places you can use Rock Climb on and have Dive spread out as a Level up Move?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 09:08 AM
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I also see Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam as TMs again.
Them three moves are like staples in Pokemon and in the TMs
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It really doesn't look like any TMs are changing so far. Pokebeach just found Thief and Rock Smash.

TM46 Thief is on the ground at the Combine. If you defeat three workers, you also get TM94 Rock Smash.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 10:17 PM
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With all of the Move Tutors, it'd almost be completely pointless to make any changes to the TM roster. I mean, you have almost everything in the metagame covered via TM/HM.
I'm a little upset that Scald, my favorite move, is obtained after so long in the game, though. :c
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