DS Map Graphics Editor

[Skara]

Originally Posted by droomph

Hello!

This tool is far from done, but when it is, it will be able to.

So far, you can change the texture (material) of the general shapes (polygons), movement permissions, and changing houses, doors, and such.

(And uh, not judging, why would you make a Yellow remake?)

Pokemon can follow you in HGSS. Makes it better.

[NintendoBoyDX]

Originally Posted by droomph

Also, you should try hex editing. Oh, the things you learn.

I can't stop loling at the difference between unfathomably stupid and something that is fathom stupid. Oh the stupidity.

NintendoBoy: "You should make the editor for the best engine."

droomph: "You should try hex editing."

Implying that its something you actually have to learn.

Anyway, I don't understand what is so difficult about changing targets to make the editor for the best engine that's out there. There's no reason to have to wait to do it.

[looper]

Whatever

Well, I wasn't around a long time, are there any files that need to be translated into german?

[Link_971]

Originally Posted by looper

Whatever

Well, I wasn't around a long time, are there any files that need to be translated into german?

Yes, always the Map list files, and other parts (interface, etc...)
The Mini-site is out, i will add translation files soon.

[Zeikaro]

pokehacking great on ds now, the new era awaits us hope soon allow us to change the graphics to our own 3D models would be very interesting and would allow develop myself more as a tiler

[PokémonShinySilver]

I've noticed how Pokémon Black/White use triangular polygons on the map layout. I've done some zero-ing out many hex values in 0x2A30 - 0x3326, which made some polygons disappear. It's quite interesting how it works on generation 5, it just makes me want to experiment with Nuvema Town even more.



We're getting even closer to seeing a fully functional map editor by a skilled developer, I still need to learn about programming, as you can see... I'm pretty clueless on developing and knowing which hex values to be editing. xD

[Link_971]

Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver

I've noticed how Pokémon Black/White use triangular polygons on the map layout. I've done some zero-ing out many hex values in 0x2A30 - 0x3326, which made some polygons disappear. It's quite interesting how it works on generation 5, it just makes me want to experiment with Nuvema Town even more.

We're getting even closer to seeing a fully functional map editor by a skilled developer, I still need to learn about programming, as you can see... I'm pretty clueless on developing and knowing which hex values to be editing. xD

Good luck for your researches.

Also, new Pokémon versions are coming in june, right?
I need to prepare the future compatibility for these versions

[Team Fail]

Originally Posted by Link_971

Good luck for your researches.

Also, new Pokémon versions are coming in june, right?
I need to prepare the future compatibility for these versions :P

Seeing as they'll be based on BW more than likely, they should be the same.

[AwsomeMew]

Did The B/W Version Released !

[PokémonShinySilver]

Originally Posted by AwsomeMew

Did The B/W Version Released !

If you mean that the Black/White Map editor, then nope, it hasn't been released yet, sorry. But if you mean the map viewer, then you may want to have a look in this thread.

[Kakko97]

when will you release the rev8???
i wanna it so much!!

[Hacker Bisharp]

when will you release the rev8?

[Link_971]

Hello, i need anyone to test many textures from this list (and maybe, starting documentation for users).
Also, i always need updates for the translations (required for a full support in your language )
And, if anyone has new informations about these things to edit...

Thanks!

[Pike15]

When is this tools going to be realese?

[Link_971]

Stop asking please
You'll see in due time.

[BlacknYellowHD]

The map hacking is in your hand, lucky you, you've been a legend ;D
I think you should release first Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, and then HG/SS and BW...

[Skara]

I like how everyone wants HGSS and BW mapping in the first release, but they all expect it out soon.

[PokémonShinySilver]

'Twas only yesterday that I found out that the map layout data in HeartGold and SoulSilver is in a/0/6/5 when extracting it with a tool such as DSBuff, Nitro Explorer, Tinke or even CrystalTile2.

And there definitely is something I still need to learn... and that is how the polygons operate in the hex values.

I'm still looking forward to the map editor, just remember everyone... the more things you post about what you've noticed during your research in the ROMs, the more progress the developer will have.

If there's anyone wants to know where the locations of the map layout data in Tinke or CrystalTile2... well here they are:
Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: fielddata/land_data/land_data.narc
HeartGold/SoulSilver: a/0/6/5
Black/White: a/0/0/8

Instead of trying to mess up the map layout data, I'm gonna start messing around with the map_matrix.narc file in Pokémon Platinum. When I see the expected results, I shall post it here. ;)

Edit: I've just noticed that the map_matrix.narc has the same names as the BMD0 and MDL0 files. So I assume map_matrix.narc could be where the names are given for the models (which are buildings, houses ect). Like how the mapname.bin file works, it might have connection to the map_matrix.narc file.

Edit 2: Well, looks like I've found the weather pattern texture for Eterna Forest, which is shown in the screenshot. The mystery of the data for using the different weather effects remains. Ah well, more research is needed to be done, but either way... every research counts as improvement towards new things.

[Link_971]

Yeah, all animations are stored in this file.
The problem is how to find the data for the maps.

[PokémonShinySilver]

Originally Posted by Link_971

Yeah, all animations are stored in this file.
The problem is how to find the data for the maps.

I assume it might be somewhere in the map layout data (or land_data), 'cause the layout and models have their data on which location it can be and which model it is by simply using the name of the model. So if most of the things to do with the land, effect and position are in the map files in land_data... then there's a chance that the weather and map position is also located in the map files in the land_data. While experimenting with... and altering the map_matrix didn't make any difference to the map while I was changing several random values while using Tinke. But I'll try experimenting it again on CrystalTile2, just to make sure Tinke did the same thing.

But who knows? The data might be in the first file inside map_matrix, 'cause I found that the first one means "everywhere", according to the mapname.bin. More research is needed to be done.

[Spiky-Eared Pichu]

Weather data is defined in arm9.bin in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black and White are still unknown, but it may be there too. I can confirm you it's there, as well as daytime music, nighttime music, camera, wild pokémon, scripts, texts, textures and parent map settings. I have edited all these settings for Pokémon DarkDiamond successfully. map_matrix.narc contains connection data and border map settings.

Has anyone of you tried to edit the files in land_data_release with 3ds Studio Max? It way easier and faster than by hex and you get 1:1 results. Here's an example with Route 202 (ignore the transparency issues):

[Team Fail]

Originally Posted by Spiky-Eared Pichu

Weather data is defined in arm9.bin in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black and White are still unknown, but it may be there too. I can confirm you it's there, as well as daytime music, nighttime music, camera, wild pokémon, scripts, texts, textures and parent map settings. I have edited all these settings for Pokémon DarkDiamond successfully. map_matrix.narc contains connection data and border map settings.

Has anyone of you tried to edit the files in land_data_release with 3ds Studio Max? It way easier and faster than by hex and you get 1:1 results. Here's an example with Route 202 (ignore the transparency issues):

I'm still trying to get a copy of autodesk atm to do this. I think I have the NITRO plugins somewhere on my harddrive though. I'll have to install it on my PC and try this out. lol

[looper]

Originally Posted by Spiky-Eared Pichu

Ehm.. Sorry for the question, but I know how to export Models. But how do I import? I didn't find something in the Nitro Tools Archive...

[Spiky-Eared Pichu]

Originally Posted by looper

Ehm.. Sorry for the question, but I know how to export Models. But how do I import? I didn't find something in the Nitro Tools Archive...

There are plugins for 3ds Studio Max and Maya, but I can't tell you where to get them because I would break the forum rules (they are easy to find, however). After export, conversion has to be done with a small software found with the plugins.

[looper]

Originally Posted by Spiky-Eared Pichu

There are plugins for 3ds Studio Max and Maya, but I can't tell you where to get them because I would break the forum rules (they are easy to find, however). After export, conversion has to be done with a small software found with the plugins.

k, because of the image, I thought that importing nsbmd-files to maya/3ds Studio Max is possible as well