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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:02 PM
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Darmanitan (Zen Mode) and Audino. Darmanitan look really cool but then really sucked at attacking for me. Audino... well... it's self explanatory. lol
Unfortunately I disagree on the Audino part. I played through with it non-seriously, but by level 100 it was my strongest Pokemon and took on Alder's team and easily defeated it - even Volcarona, so if grinded it can be of real use in the games, imo.
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I caught a Purrloin early in the game but it was really bad - it didn't learn any good moves leveling up, horrible stats, was just bad in general. It could have been and looked really good too. :/

For some odd reason I kept with it during the black storyline and it held up my team, instead of training the others I would be using the trainers to level up Purrloin and still it was really bad D:

Zebstrika was really disappointing too, it was also frail and has a bad movepool. :/

Also Pidove's line. They could have given it a better movepool too, it didn't really get much of a choice with attacks.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 07:18 PM
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I think that Nintendo should do away with Unova. i love pokemon dearly, but this one just doesn't cut it for me. it doesn't really feel like a pokemon game to me.
oh and for the most disappointing pokemon in unova,

pidove! this pokemon had a cool design and all, (i love male unfezant) but the movepool was really shocking! early on i didn't have a decent move besides air cutter (which didn't do it for me).

also purrloin,
crappy defenses, and ok attack stat. the only thing that it had going for it was speed.
all around bad pokemon.

anyway now that we are done complaining, let's have a cup of tea shall we?
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Old July 1st, 2012, 08:24 PM
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Braviary was definitely a major letdown for me. I remember seeing it's pre-release picture and think how much of an epic Pokemon it would turn out to be. Sadly, it's stats are nowhere near what I hoped they would be and training a Rufflet all the way to level 54 is not something I would do again. I don't think Braviary is a bad Pokemon but there are other flying types I'd rather use like Archeops even with it's terrible ability.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 05:24 AM
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Cryogonal, by a long shot. I saw its picture and thought it was going to be this gen's Ice-type beast (like Glalie in Gen III) and then there was the fact that the chances of meeting it in the wild only go as high as 5%. I got super excited over it and had great plans for it. Then after nearly 5 hours in Twist Mountain I got one and it was such a let down. Its Sp. Atk was ok but it was useless in every other stat.

The three monkey pokemon, obviously. They quickly outlived their usefulness.

Druddigon. I didn't like its low speed. I make it a rule that if a Pokemon needs a Quick Claw to go first it has no place on my team. I only broke that for the Tirtouga line who, unless you choose Oshawott or Snivy, are the first water types you can get (I think).


I do have to disagree with a lot of the others though. I found Zebstrika to be a great pokemon, even though I replaced it with Joltik/Galvantula it served its purpose well. Purrloin is this Gen's Poochyena, don't expect it to work wonders and cr*p miracles
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First off i found Patrat abit of a letdown it became useless really fast.

Secound i found Deerling and Sawsbuck pretty useless sure the idea of a deer that looks different depending on the season was good but i never really found it a usefull pokemon.

Third would be Cubchoo and it's evo it's one of the worst ice types from my point of view.
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The starters themselves...never I have felt the starters to be so redundant. Serperior, Emboar and Samurott and their preevolved forms honestly disappointed me.(not design wise but battle wise)

Serperior was practically useless ingame it takes atleast 3-4 coils to actually kill something.

Emboar was okay. But the fact is I had to rely on Arm thrust for a looong time and I actually couldn't use him properly till the 7th gym, where he learnt Brick Break and the gym was Ice gym.

I honestly can't comment about Samurott because I didn't play the game completely when I played the first time and chose Oshawott...and yes I played BW three times.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 11:17 AM
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For me it would have to be Liepard. I LOVE its design, but I was so disappointed with how little I could really use it. Mine ended up being replaced fairly early on by Scraggy/Scrafty.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 05:22 PM
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1. Pansear - I had a bad experience using Pansear against Cilan, it has a horrible moveset when you first get it with the only good moves being Lick & Incinerate (Which was a horrible move) so it failed but when it evolves it gets better.

2. Heatmor I tested it out and it battled just how it looked.

3. Woobat evolution line Again, tested them and they sucked.
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Secound i found Deerling and Sawsbuck pretty useless sure the idea of a deer that looks different depending on the season was good but i never really found it a usefull pokemon.
imo it's p awesome competitively, especially in sun. :x

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Cryogonal, by a long shot. I saw its picture and thought it was going to be this gen's Ice-type beast (like Glalie in Gen III) and then there was the fact that the chances of meeting it in the wild only go as high as 5%. I got super excited over it and had great plans for it. Then after nearly 5 hours in Twist Mountain I got one and it was such a let down. Its Sp. Atk was ok but it was useless in every other stat.
It also has nice special defense too! sucky defense though unfortunately. :(

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Braviary was definitely a major letdown for me. I remember seeing it's pre-release picture and think how much of an epic Pokemon it would turn out to be. Sadly, it's stats are nowhere near what I hoped they would be and training a Rufflet all the way to level 54 is not something I would do again. I don't think Braviary is a bad Pokemon but there are other flying types I'd rather use like Archeops even with it's terrible ability.
Well it does get access to good moves such as Return/Brave Bird/U-turn/Superpower (lmao @ basically its competitive moveset :x) so it can do good if trained right imo.

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Old July 3rd, 2012, 07:24 AM
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The Emboar line was the biggest disappointment for me. Don't get me wrong, I loved its power and wide move-pool, but its pitiful speed and defense killed it for me. Plus the only good fighting move it could learn was Brick Break (it could learn Superpower, but I'm not a big fan of it).
Emboar didn't suck for me, it's cool.

I eventually got the chance to train one and he didn't let me down... mine even had a good nature (I guess Jolly is one of the best natures for Emboar) and mine was lucky to have gotten good Speed IVs.

Even though he gets stuck with Arm Thrust until you get to Mistralton City, it's still helpful. You forgot to mention that he gets Hammer Arm through the Move Relearner which hits hard. REALLY HARD.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 09:50 AM
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Emboar sucks. Sure, he has a great attack stat and good HP, but he is so slow and so frail that a strong super effective STAB could probably 2HKO or OHKO it. Infernae and Blaziken are frail, but they are at least fast at hit hard too.

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I'm getting sick of Firefighter starter Pokemon. 3 in a row? Seriously?
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 09:54 AM
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Pansear. He was very weak. Swapped him from Victini as soon as I reached Castelia.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 05:35 AM
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I actually found the starters to be really cool. The biggest letdown for me was :
the Klink line, zebstrika and pansage, panpour and pansear and for all those people who think unova should be disregarded, I think it was pretty cool. They did a great job with the graphics.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 05:46 AM
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I actually found the starters to be really cool. The biggest letdown for me was :
the Klink line, zebstrika and pansage, panpour and pansear and for all those people who think unova should be disregarded, I think it was pretty cool. They did a great job with the graphics.
Almost all of these Pokemon/ Pokemon lines you said could have been fixed if they had a better movepool.

But, there's no help for one Pokemon: Stunfisk.
Stunfisk is terrible, having no evolutions, having a extremely wierd typing, and a somewhat bad movepool.
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I understand why people think Archeops is a disappointment, but I think it's great after it learns acrobatics and has full health with no items attached. That means you get 4x attack ability for just obliterating the enemy team.

Anyway, the biggest disappointment in this generation is the starters. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but they all lack the thing I call "awareness" which what I mean by that is that every pokemon I face in generation 5 with this guys fully evolved, it just goes terrible. Even if there is a type advantage over the enemy, Serperior can't deliver a one hit KO from leaf blade.

Emboar can, but he only helps with taking out liepards & zebstrikas you find along the routes as well as helping in 3 ogyms. I really do think he looks stupid too.

And finally we get to Samurott, the balanced water-type starter. Let me start of by saying he is a great pokemon.. In the beginning of the game where you must face the first gym leader he can be quite a help (even though there's a type advantage against you), but so are the other starters that I bashed. Just like every other starter in the generation, he eventually isn't relevant later on in the game. I have boxed all of my starters due to this.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 10:52 AM
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I'd have to say Pidove. Pokemon has had a long time of having a "decent" normal-flying type bird pokemon in the beginning routes. Pidove interrupted that. He's a great physical attacker without good physical moves. The only good one it gets is Fly. I don't know if Gamefreak was trying to continue our bird pokemon with Rufflet, but if so... It's waaaayy to late in the game. And you're gonna struggle taking on the E4 with a NFE pokemon.
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I understand why people think Archeops is a disappointment, but I think it's great after it learns acrobatics and has full health with no items attached. That means you get 4x attack ability for just obliterating the enemy team.
Why do you think Archeops is bad? I used one in Black and he was AMAZING! He really ripped apart teams with Acrobatics.

I wasn't originally going to use him cos of his unfortunate ability but hey, if you give something a go you might not be disappointed.

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Anyway, the biggest disappointment in this generation is the starters. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but they all lack the thing I call "awareness" which what I mean by that is that every pokemon I face in generation 5 with this guys fully evolved, it just goes terrible. Even if there is a type advantage over the enemy, Serperior can't deliver a one hit KO from leaf blade.
Serperior wasn't the best for me, I just don't work in sync with Grass Starters. Mine did have a hindering nature which made it hard for me, cos he couldn't even KO anything easily unless if he got a Coil boost.

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Emboar can, but he only helps with taking out liepards & zebstrikas you find along the routes as well as helping in 3 ogyms. I really do think he looks stupid too.
Emboar actually turned out good for me, probably because the one I used had a beneficial nature and good IVs in Speed.

I know he's stuck with Arm Thrust until you get to the 6th Gym (as far as Fighting moves go) but once you get a Heart Scale, you can get him to learn Hammer Arm which hits HARD.

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And finally we get to Samurott, the balanced water-type starter. Let me start of by saying he is a great pokemon.. In the beginning of the game where you must face the first gym leader he can be quite a help (even though there's a type advantage against you), but so are the other starters that I bashed. Just like every other starter in the generation, he eventually isn't relevant later on in the game. I have boxed all of my starters due to this.
Samurott did the best out of the starters, at least for me. It's just that I work well with Water Starters not to mention his stats are balanced and can use both special and physical attacks effectively.

Mine has a balanced moveset and he will always be one of my best.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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I could never be disapointed in a pokemon because I can train any single one. I've been playing for a long time and I could train even a purrloin or zebstrika (which is most of your disappointments) to level 75 with no hassle. It would just take a while.
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I was disappointed by both my petilil and my solosis line. Sure, they both have AMAZING special attack, and lilligant hits HARD with a couple quiver dances under her belt, but I ended up dropping both of them for a
maractus on both of my runs. The thing is an awesome sunny day/solarbeam sweeper, and with clorophyll became unstoppable. Plus, you have good support moves like synthesis, cotton guard, etc.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 10:38 AM
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I was disappointed with Eelektross. I found it too slow to really be any use in my team and ended up dropping it for Galvantula.
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I was disappointed with Simisage, Simisear, and Simipour. Their designs were awful along with their move-pool. Stored them right after I got them.

Also, Beartic, has one of the sickest Pokémon designs in Generation V. But its stats make him irrelevant compared to other Ice-Type Pokémon in the game such as Vanilluxe.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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I didn't feel overly let down with any pokemon really. The six pokemon I set my sights on (Samurott, Conkeldurr, Reuniclus, Cofagrigus, Scolipede and Darmanitan) did quite well for me. I was let down that Cofagrigus wasn't a Ghost/Steel type though....but I got over it.

I would say the Monkey trio feel very underwhelming to me, to the point where I would never consider them for my team at all. I really love a lot of the Unova pokemon designs but I'm not overly fond of the Monkey trio evolutions....they kind of also feel like they need a second evolution too. They don't look very tough/capable.
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