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Old July 4th, 2012, 02:29 PM
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^ I wonder why half of Alder's team was replaced, sure it wasn't the strongest team but still. Cynthia seems to be the only one who has a team made out of Pokemon she actually had as champ (I think Lance might too though).
They gave Alder a pokemon from each of his e4 underlings.

Reuniclus - Caitlin
Conkeldurr - Marshal
Chandelure - Shauntal
Krookodile - Grimsley

I think it's a really cool idea, personally, since it kind of shows his dominance over the other four.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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except he isn't the Champion anymore
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Old July 4th, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Haha, oh come on. Neither is Green/Blue still a champion, nor is Giovanni still a Gym Leader, nor is Steven still a champion, etc. Obviously that has nothing to do with the discussion at all.



My only disappointments are few with PWT, thankfully.
* One: I wish Iris was in it. Almost doesn't make sense for her not to be, but...
* Two: Very few Dark-types. While there is no Dark-type gym or champion, there are many dual-typed Dark-type Pokemon that didn't get used.
* Three: Even though they programmed in teams for the Elites of other regions, we aren't likely to ever battle them since there are no sprites for them... ALTHOUGH perhaps GameFreak purposely left out the sprites in order to surprise us with their download later! Or maybe that's just wishful thinking. I dunno; seems all bets are off for 5th Gen in general.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 06:08 PM
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Steven may or may not still be the champion. Both him and Wallace are champions in the PWT, so I'm not exactly sure what's going on with them. Steven introduced himself as champion in HGSS, but we don't know whether that was before or after RSE.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 06:17 PM
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Haha, oh come on. Neither is Green/Blue still a champion, nor is Giovanni still a Gym Leader, nor is Steven still a champion, etc. Obviously that has nothing to do with the discussion at all.



My only disappointments are few with PWT, thankfully.
* One: I wish Iris was in it. Almost doesn't make sense for her not to be, but...
* Two: Very few Dark-types. While there is no Dark-type gym or champion, there are many dual-typed Dark-type Pokemon that didn't get used.
* Three: Even though they programmed in teams for the Elites of other regions, we aren't likely to ever battle them since there are no sprites for them... ALTHOUGH perhaps GameFreak purposely left out the sprites in order to surprise us with their download later! Or maybe that's just wishful thinking. I dunno; seems all bets are off for 5th Gen in general.
I don't think the E4 will be showing at all. When the PWT was first revealed, they said it was to battle past Champions and Gym Leaders specifically, so I don't believe E4 will ever show up in it.

As for sprites, if the sprites weren't added I do not believe we will get them. From what I know about the games, all sprites are pre-programmed so any ripper can pull it out. Since none exist for them I don't think they'll be showing.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 06:48 PM
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Steven may or may not still be the champion. Both him and Wallace are champions in the PWT, so I'm not exactly sure what's going on with them. Steven introduced himself as champion in HGSS, but we don't know whether that was before or after RSE.
If I remember correctly...Gen I&III take place three years before Gen II&IV

So Steven is three years older in HG/SS then he was in RSE, they probably swap when Steven gets bored, or there are no challengers
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Old July 5th, 2012, 03:52 PM
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The Pokemon World Tournament is a really cool idea, I would gladly take this over the Battle Frontier anyday, but I feel like they could have done it better, with more trainers.

I would love to see previous E4 members here, since we haven't heard from Lorelei, Agatha and the Hoenn E4 in a long time, (even though we're likely to see the Hoenn Elite when / if they remake RS).

I would also have loved to see previous Rivals like Silver, Wally, etc in the Tournament. Well they technically have one in the form of Blue.

And of course everyone would have loved to see past protaginists. Come on, if Red can come down from his beloved Mountain, Brendan and Lucas and all the others could at least drop by and battle a bit. Then again, I'm pretty sure some hackers will hack them in, replacing other trainers because they can, so that's cool.

One interesting feature is that they will let you download Trainers who top VGC's, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's VGC winners who get programed in the game, or like the Top 8 or something, via Wi-Fi event. That's really cool because obviously, people who make it that far in the tournaments will have very good teams with good movesets (Inb4 some random noob gets really lucky with crappy Pokemon), considering GameFreak aren't the best at creating movesets of their own Pokemon. Although I will admit that they are getting better at making movesets, I was looking through Serebii and some people have Choiced Pokemon. For example, I saw Wattson with a Choice Scarfed Rotom-Wash. That's a standard competitive set right there! I also saw a Choice Banded Ferrothorn, although it isn't used too often in Standard play because regular Leech Seeding hazard set is better anyways, but it's still cool.

I'm really looking forward to the Pokemon World Tournament when Black 2 & White 2 get released in North America. I'm also excited to see what other stuff they can do with it, using Wi-Fi events. :]
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Old July 5th, 2012, 05:05 PM
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^when you said you wanted the old rivals to return i completely agree. I wondered why they didnt show up(blue only showed up because he was the champion)

We all know that the trainers in the PWT had revamped music but did anyone else felt that they kinda repressed hoenns revamped music

And also in the RSE remakes do you think the PWT would appear
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:16 PM
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Blue and Red are the only two Characters (Rival and PC) to ever be classified as Champions. Blue is the Champion at the end of R/B/G/Y/FR/LG and Red was said to be the champion in G/S/C/HG/SS. None of the other Player characters have ever been mentioned to be CHampions, they even changed the wording I think cause I don't specifically recall any of the Champions after Lance saying you were the new champion, only that you beat them, congrats, hall of fame entry. Which would be the reason why they are still champions when you rechallenge.

So ya it makes sense that May, Brendan, Silver, Wally, Barry, Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, Crystal, Green(girl), or Lyra don't appear. They were never classified as Champions.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 09:12 PM
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Actually I think they DO announce you as the new Champion. However, I think they're used because they're the "official" champions. I mean, a person can go all throughout the game without defeating the Elite Four if they wish to. No one says you HAVE to beat the game. Plus, in Black and White you don't even HAVE to battle Alder. The Elite Four isn't important after you beat N. So I think that this may have had something to do with that. The main reason I don't think the main protagonists as the Champion is this: who cares? No one wants to battle them. You can do that with friends who play. Sure, maybe if you have a Multi Battle option, in which case it'd be neat if Hilda/bert came along; but even then I think I would rather the other protagonist of B2W2.

I will agree and say that Alder's radical change is a little odd, though.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 11:16 AM
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Yeah they really cant implement the protags as being champions because than the champions would all be the last protags and that would be insatiably boring
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Old July 6th, 2012, 12:39 PM
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I wouldn't find them appearing as champs boring...
Alder could've gotten some more powerful bug Pokémon (he's pratically a bug trainer like how Steven who's team is half Steel is a steel pokémon trainer) like Heracross, and Scisor for his tournament team.
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I wouldn't find them appearing as champs boring...
Alder could've gotten some more powerful bug Pokémon (he's pratically a bug trainer like how Steven who's team is half Steel is a steel pokémon trainer) like Heracross, and Scisor for his tournament team.
I wouldn't have liked it if they made him a bug trainer. He just doesn't seem like one. Even though he had three bugs in BW, it seemed more coincidental. I don't like how much they changed his team, but I guess none of his Pokémon except Volcarona really made sense in BW.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 12:40 AM
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I wouldn't find them appearing as champs boring...
Alder could've gotten some more powerful bug Pokémon (he's pratically a bug trainer like how Steven who's team is half Steel is a steel pokémon trainer) like Heracross, and Scisor for his tournament team.
Steven is more like Rock trainer in PWT... but well, maybe GF wanted to try new teams that could be used in R/S remakes.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 05:26 AM
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So Serebii is updating the Trainer list for the PWT. Bianca is a battleable person in the PWT in the Driftveil Tournament, Mix Tournament, and Unova Leaders. She's also in the World Leaders tournament, although Serebii listed her twice with the same team.

Why is she in the Unova Leaders and World Leaders? XD

So far the only Pokemon restrictions I found are:
The following aren't eligible; Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Keldeo, Meloetta
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Old July 9th, 2012, 05:53 AM
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huh that's weird, Keldeo but not the Musketeers? And do you know if the creation trio from Sinnoh is allowed? I'm guessing not but just wondering.
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I have no idea why Bianca is included into the Leaders, but maybe it's because she's one of the strongest trainers? Idk, but it's odd that we can't have Keldeo as opposed to the other three.
I do like that they include other trainers in the Type Expert category, rather than JUST the Gym Leaders.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 06:51 AM
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I like the way it's not just purely gym leaders but also strong trainers and other important characters such as Bianca, Cilan etc. It will certainly take a while to beat ALL of them.
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I'm glad they included some strong trainers that specialise in the otherwise forgotten dark type. It's kinda unfair how Keldeo is banned probably just because it's an event Pokémon, as it's stats aren't any better than the other legendary musketeers.
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Maybe it's not Keldeo but just his Resolution Form just like it was with Latias.
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But his Resolution form is the exact same, just with Sacred Sword. All of its stats are exactly the same. Especially since it's Special Attack savvy anyway, I don't see the purpose of its Resolution form.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:10 PM
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I really wish Gamefreak would go off Smogon's ban list for the PWT (Except for Blaziken) and just have a Wi-Fi event every time something went up / down.
C'mon, I really wanna use Shaymin in PWT!
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:17 PM
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All of the Mirage Legends (the small guys Mew, Celebi, Jiranchi, Shaymin, Victini, Meleotta) as well as Event Only Pokemon are usually banned from the In Game events. Genesect isn't listed because it doesn't technically exist yet.

From Serebii:

Two new Wi-Fi downloads of Pokémon World Tournaments have begun. These tournaments both have different rules and currently have no end date known at this point.
First is the Gathered! Gym Leader! tournament. This tournament features various Gym Leaders of the regions with teams that they did not have before. This is a Double Battle tournament and requires you to choose 4 Pokémon
Second is the Challenge the Champion, Lance! tournament. This tournament features the Champion Lance and Gym Leaders, again with teams they didn't have before. These are Single Battles and require you to choose 3 Pokémon
We'll work out teams from these and update as soon as possible.

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Old July 14th, 2012, 07:57 AM
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So, does that mean you must get these event downloads to get those Leaders included into the Tournament, or does that just mean that these events give you the same Leaders but with different Pokemon?

Also, I can see Genesect being excluded from the Tournament, as well.
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and will america be getting these events in the same form? I sure hope so. We better, otherwise I'm gonna rage....
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