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Old July 8th, 2012 (11:57 AM).
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Well, the monkey trio (they were awful), and Stunfisk.

Everyone says he is so "adorable"... I find him to be utterly disgusting and annoying. However, the Electric/Ground typing was a nice surprise to me, especially when he OHKO'd my Samurott.
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Old July 20th, 2012 (11:25 PM).
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Zebstrika probably. I mean it's good, I even used one to take down the elite four, but it's move pool was what got me. It can learn only 2 physical electric type moves. One isn't powerful and the other has recoil damage.
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Old July 21st, 2012 (12:19 AM).
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Zebstrika probably. I mean it's good, I even used one to take down the elite four, but it's move pool was what got me. It can learn only 2 physical electric type moves. One isn't powerful and the other has recoil damage.
I kinda wish it had higher sPA then it wouldn't matter if it had a bad physical moveset. :( But nope, ty GF for being meeeaaan to those who want to use it!

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However, the Electric/Ground typing was a nice surprise to me, especially when he OHKO'd my Samurott.
Yup, Electric is the trump card against Water types...

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Zebstrika probably. I mean it's good, I even used one to take down the elite four, but it's move pool was what got me. It can learn only 2 physical electric type moves. One isn't powerful and the other has recoil damage.
I've always had issues training Zebstrika. Been a while since he came out of the PC. I think since I gave him Pokérus.

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Old July 21st, 2012 (11:43 AM).
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I was pretty let down by the lillipup line - they looked great from the get go, and they are.. they are very usable until about 3/4 into the game and I just found them completely useless and redundant on my team.

However I LOVEDDD Stunfisk. It was boss.
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Old July 26th, 2012 (12:41 PM).
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Old July 26th, 2012 (1:25 PM).
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For offline play, the only pokemon I am having troubles with are the element monkys Swoobat was cool in game, but online >.< meh
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Old July 26th, 2012 (2:17 PM).
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Braviary. I LOVED its design, but in combat it's no where near Staraptor in strength...sigh.
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Stunfisk. That is all. He is honestly just terrible in every possible way I can think of , besides being the most derpiest pokemon yet.

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Old July 29th, 2012 (5:00 PM).
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I had high hopes for the Purrloin, but the movepool and overall bad stats proved too weak to ever do anything impressive with one.
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Old July 29th, 2012 (6:22 PM).
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the starters (especially serperior) and the monkey trios. just...sigh

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Old July 30th, 2012 (1:31 PM).
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For me, Reshiram. By the time I got there, my team was too high level, I tried it out on run 2, but evenwhen it got 100lvl Cynthia's Garchomp made it sweep the floor. Al my pokemon were murdered my that massacerer Cynthia, Volcarona sweeped her though. I was also disppointed with Panpour and Simipour, mainly because they suck with my team.
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I've become disappointed with my Emboar. This was while forming my E4 team; its stats are way too low. I am omitting it from the E4 battles as the type isn't perfectly suited for any of them (though I could give it a Fighting TM move perhaps), and will likely take Volcarona into the Champion's room if I need Fire; I haven't studied his team yet and won't until I'm ready to challenge.

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Old July 31st, 2012 (5:10 AM).
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The most disappointing was a lv65 Madibuzz.

I had been on GTSN and traded a really strong and fast level 41 Zebstrika for it, thinking its would be really good. It was possibly the weakest and most disappointing pokemon I have used through all three series I have played.

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Old July 31st, 2012 (6:56 AM).
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Purrloin, I was looking forward to have it in my team before the games were released but I hate it
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Old August 2nd, 2012 (8:24 PM).
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Serperior was a big let down for me because of it's terrible move pool and mediocre offensive stats. I understand it's supposed to be a defensive minded Pokemon but it lacks the moves to back that up.
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Old August 11th, 2012 (2:25 AM).
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I hate to say it, but Swoobat. He's just the cutest thing, and I was crazy enough to take him to the E4, even though Marshal's team had some Rock moves, I though he was fast enough to hit first and dodge them. Sadly, he wasn't. Nonetheless, he's still one of my favorites, and nowadays he flies me around post-E4 Unova.

Also, Panpour. I needed a Water-type though, so he was still on the team, but I replaced him with Tympole as soon as I had the chance.
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Old August 11th, 2012 (4:15 AM).
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Gigalith was probably the worst. While it is unarguably a very good looking Pokemon, it was just too slow to accomplish much during my playthrough. Having to constantly rely on Quick Claw hax got extremely tiring, so I replaced him with Beartic, which performed much better.
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I honestly found timburr and the evolutions after to be a let down. It was a good poke to have in the beginning but it slowly got worse when you progressed through the game.
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Carracosta. Sturdy is a lifesaver, but other than that, it's slow and even after a Shell Smash boost it doesn't outspeed anything...

Funny that people had problems with Emboar. It's slow, but powerful, and Hammer Arm hits very hard.

Mandibuzz with Nasty Plot was fun to use and scored a few surprise kills in my playthrough. It's also very durable.


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Lacking defensively despite being a special wall. It resembles Blissey stats in some light.
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In the 'useless pokemon-o-meter', Gen 5 ranks up with Gen 3 for introducing the most useful Pokemon. Granted there a few awful ones like every generation, but we aren't swimming in them like Gen 4.

Cyrognal is a decent special wall, however it's defence cripples it against all physical attacks. Plus, the Ice typing gives all the weaknesses towards the most common physical attackers.

Liepard is just a poor man's Mightyena, a already rarely used Pokemon. It's about as frail as toilet paper.

The simi pokemon are awful too, and are outclassed by almost all of their rivals. Horrible designs as well.

The worst of all of them is Archeops. Defeatist basically makes a great looking attacker turn into a hit and run machine, plus it's awful defences basically makes it impossible to do anything to fast and powerful opponents (very common in-game).
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Old August 13th, 2012 (11:04 AM).
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In the 'useless pokemon-o-meter', Gen 5 ranks up with Gen 3 for introducing the most useful Pokemon. Granted there a few awful ones like every generation, but we aren't swimming in them like Gen 4.
They look useful because they're all you can use. In the metagame, however, you'll find most of them lurking in NU with the exception of obviously broken Pokémon like Excadrill.

It's a bit of a shame, really, because it's not hard to make a team in Gen V with what you're given.


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The worst of all of them is Archeops. Defeatist basically makes a great looking attacker turn into a hit and run machine, plus it's awful defences basically makes it impossible to do anything to fast and powerful opponents (very common in-game).
Unless you're playing at at least 10 level disadvantage, it's nearly impossible to not kill everything in your path with the combo of itemless Acrobatics and Rock Slide. Even if for some reason the opponent will live the onslaught and activate your Defeatist, it's not like you're in Wi-Fi battle, the Potions are here at your disposal.

The only thing fast and powerful enough to kill Archeops in-game before it tries to attack is Zebstrika IIRC. Seeing as the difference in Base Speed is a measly 6 points, it will be impossible for you to not outspeed the zebra and defeat it with, say, Dig. (unless you're at enourmous level disadvantage or rolled some terrible nature and IVs)

But, different strokes for different folks. I personally had a lot of troubles playing with Darumaka, which is supposed to be one of the best in-game Pokemon in BW (ended up boxing the thing lol), so in some way I can understand your view of Archeops.

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They look useful because they're all you can use. In the metagame, however, you'll find most of them lurking in NU with the exception of obviously broken Pokémon like Excadrill.

It's a bit of a shame, really, because it's not hard to make a team in Gen V with what you're given.
So? If I've read his post correctly all he talked about was in-game, so his point is very much valid.
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Old August 13th, 2012 (11:35 PM).
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I personally can't stand Liepard. I kept him around because he was a minority Pokemon for quite some time. I ditched it when Simisage learned Bite. It has been good enough for me thus far. I've had a much easier time having Simisage around and besides, I've always been partial to the monkeys...possibly because of the flying purple ones living in my head!
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