✯Once a Legend, Always a Legend✯ (Legendary Club)

[Sector Revenge]

The Legendary Club

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Name: Sector Revenge
2 Partner Pokemon: Aurora the Latias, Sephora the Cresselia
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Legendary Pokemon(48)
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Members (17)
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Sector Revenge
Avishka
ShadowTheDarkrai
Mentalii
Snowdrop
krazzikk
NixChill
Olli97
Katie the Friendly Ghost
PokemonGamingForever
lucario_is_awesome
Meganium90
Ghost Emperor
Hikari10
The Shiny Umbreon in the Corner
Umbr30n
Iloveeevee

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Adamant Orb
Aurora Ticket
Blue Orb
Burn Drive
Chill Drive
Clear Bell
Dark Stone
Douse Drive
DNA Link Pin
Draco Plate
Dread Plate
Earth Plate
Enigma Stone
Eon Ticket
Fist Plate
Flame Plate
God Stone
Gracidea
Griseous Orb
Icicle Plate
Insect Plate
Iron Plate
Jade Orb
Light Stone
Lunar Wing
Lustrous Orb
Manaphy Doll
Meadow Plate
Mind Plate
Rainbow Wing
Red Chain
Regice Doll
Regirock Doll
Registeel Doll
Shock Drive
Silver Wing
Sky Plate
Soul Dew
Splash Plate
Spooky Plate
Stone Plate
Tidal Bell
Toxic Plate
Zap Plate

Questionnaires

1. Which region-based game has the same initials as the 3 Legendary Beasts? Answer: Ruby(Raikou), Sapphire(Suicune) & Emerald(Entei)
2. What types are Moltres resistant against? Answer: Fighting, Bug, Steel, Fire & Grass
   
3. Name the following episodes Moltres appeared in. Answer:
   

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Past Topics

1. What's your favorite Legendary Pokemon & why?
2. Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?
3. How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?
4. Which form of Deoxys do you like most & why?
5. List the following Cute Legendary Pokemon in order of cuteness and explain which are the strongest. Mew vs Celebi vs Jirachi vs Manaphy vs Shaymin vs Victini
6. Are there any specific kind/type of Legendary Pokemon you would like to see introduced in Generation VI? Show some examples.
7. Which Pokemon sprite & their shiny colors disappoint you the most?
8. Out of all the types, Poison is the only type that is lacked among the Legendary Pokemon. How do you feel about this?
9. The only trainer we've faced with a Legendary Pokemon is N. Should there be more trainers in the game's main storyline with Legendary Pokemon to battle against, such as Elite Four or Champion?
10. Should Phione be considerate as one of the Legendary Pokemon?
11. Since Phione is an offspring of Manaphy, should Phione know Heart Swap as well?
12. What is your favorite background story of an individual Legendary Pokemon & why?

[Avishka]

Name: Avishka
2 Partner Pokemon: mewtwo and Articuno
What's your favorite Legendary Pokemon & why?
Mewtwo His power is incredible! Plus, he was a thinking creature, an almost devilish predator set out on world domination! that 1st. film was very cool!
Articuno is an original favorite. Magestic and beautiful, strongest of the three birds in gameboy (with Mind Reader and that OHKO move) and trading card game (Fossile).
Darkrai just way too frickin' cool!

[ShadowTheDarkrai]

Name: ShadowTheDarkrai
2 Partner Pokemon: Shadow the Darkrai (pretty obvious) and Eclipse the Giratina (origin form)
What is your favorite Legendary and why?: My favorite legendary and favorite Pokemon is Darkrai. It has been that way since I played MD T my first game. It all started when my friend hacked my game for me and asked which one I wanted to change my character too. (I don't hack anymore though) I chose Darkrai and in the game I saw the dark and mysteriousness of it's story. I liked it so much. Darkrai was powerful and cool in my eyes. Ever since I saw him in MD T, Platinum and it's Movie I've enjoyed the back stories and the mysteriousness surrounding him.

[Sector Revenge]

Originally Posted by Avishka

Name: Avishka
2 Partner Pokemon: mewtwo and Articuno
What's your favorite Legendary Pokemon & why?
Mewtwo His power is incredible! Plus, he was a thinking creature, an almost devilish predator set out on world domination! that 1st. film was very cool!
Articuno is an original favorite. Magestic and beautiful, strongest of the three birds in gameboy (with Mind Reader and that OHKO move) and trading card game (Fossile).
Darkrai just way too frickin' cool!

Mewtwo still is that strongest Pokemon. Just many others came to be bulkier and has more to them than meet the eyes. I'm iffy on how Arceus look and the way it is. Even though its suppose to be the God of all Pokemon, there is still no clarification on how they left Mew in the dust since Arceus came along in that storyline bit.

Articuno is beautiful, but in today's generation, Articuno seem to be only favored over Phione, since its movepool isn't that wide compare to Zapdos or even Moltres. The movie 2000 with the Mirage Pokemon and Lugia was an amazing story between the four birds. Definitely a great film.

Originally Posted by ShadowTheDarkrai

Name: ShadowTheDarkrai
2 Partner Pokemon: Shadow the Darkrai (pretty obvious) and Eclipse the Giratina (origin form)
What is your favorite Legendary and why?: My favorite legendary and favorite Pokemon is Darkrai. It has been that way since I played MD T my first game. It all started when my friend hacked my game for me and asked which one I wanted to change my character too. (I don't hack anymore though) I chose Darkrai and in the game I saw the dark and mysteriousness of it's story. I liked it so much. Darkrai was powerful and cool in my eyes. Ever since I saw him in MD T, Platinum and it's Movie I've enjoyed the back stories and the mysteriousness surrounding him.

Seems Darkrai still has a large, large fanbase. Its Dark Void & Nightmare ability is still the most fearsome combination of moves out there. Drakrai has it good in it! Since Cresselia & Drakrai are in a Duo together, do you think Drakrai should be a male gender, since Cresselia is 100% Female? I think so.


What is your favorite Legendary and why?:
Latias, Cresselia. Beautiful, Gorgeous. Latias & Cresselia are my two all time favorites indeed. Not because they are females, but because they are very unique and have a great movepool. Latias is that playful Pokemon, while Cresselia is that Saturn-like Pokemon that can help cure your nightmares. In other words, Cresselia is virtually a hero, while Latias is the good girl who just likes to play Palkia & Reshiram would fall right behind these two beauties. Palkia due to its amazing Bulky, awesome shoulders while Reshiram is that Fire/Dragon Pokemon I've always been wanting. There you have it, I just listed my top 4!

[Mentalii]

Name: Mentalii
2 Partner Pokemon: Electhor the Zapdos and Célesta the shiny Mew
What's your favourite legendary Pokémon and why? It's Lugia <3 First because I'm a Silver Version fan, so I obviously love its mascot. Then, Lugia is a very interesting Pokémon, I really enjoyed the second movie where it's the heroe, and it's one of the legendaries I use the most in battles. It's strong, majestic, awesome, graceful... I love it.

[Snowdrop]

Name: Snowdrop - but call me Skitters!
2 Partners: Zekrom (Overlord) and Suicune (Riverlace)
Favorite legend and why: Zekrom. Its design is incredible. It just looks so fearsome and indomitable... even if it is outclassed by Reshi in battle as I've heard. I also like the Lightning element. Overall it just looks incredible.

[krazzikk]

Name Krazzikk, you can also call me Josh
2 Partner Pokemon Vendetta, the Victini, and Poseidon, the Kyogre
What is your favorite legendary Pokémon and why? It would have to be Victini, not only because of it irresistible cute looks, and being WAY OP, and having a good stats and moveset. I love him so much! <3

Me n' Vendetta Forevah

Spoiler:

All credit goes to Watteri91 on Deviant Art! =3

[Sector Revenge]

Originally Posted by krazzikk

Name Krazzikk, you can also call me Josh
2 Partner Pokemon Vendetta, the Victini, and Poseidon, the Kyogre
What is your favorite legendary Pokémon and why? It would have to be Victini, not only because of it irresistible cute looks, and being WAY OP I love him <3

Me n' Vendetta Forevah

Spoiler:

All credit goes to Watteri91 on Deviant Art! =3

That's a real cute picture of Victini! But welcome! Do you like Victini because of its cuteness or power? & Interesting choice on Kyogre! Do you use him in battle? Rain dance team? I like the nicknames you chose for them!

Originally Posted by Snowdrop

Name: Snowdrop - but call me Skitters!
2 Partners: Zekrom (Overlord) and Suicune (Riverlace)
Favorite legend and why: Zekrom. Its design is incredible. It just looks so fearsome and indomitable... even if it is outclassed by Reshi in battle as I've heard. I also like the Lightning element. Overall it just looks incredible.

Welcome! Zekrom as an overlord, now THAT'S a scary thought LOL Riverlace...how'd you come up with that? Currently suits Suicune indeed. I like Zekrom, though I do have to choose Reshiram over it anyday! I've always liked the Special Attackers better than the Physcial ones though. I haven't used Zekrom/Reshiram's two moves together, the Fusion Bolt/Flare moves. What do you think about that?

Originally Posted by Mentalii

Name: Mentalii
2 Partner Pokemon: Electhor the Zapdos and Célesta the shiny Mew
What's your favourite legendary Pokémon and why? It's Lugia <3 First because I'm a Silver Version fan, so I obviously love its mascot. Then, Lugia is a very interesting Pokémon, I really enjoyed the second movie where it's the heroe, and it's one of the legendaries I use the most in battles. It's strong, majestic, awesome, graceful... I love it.

I put the original color Mew up for now, I'll update it to a Shiny Mew later. Interesting as you didn't choose Lugia as your partner Pokemon :O Lugia was just straight up badass in The Movie 2000. I enjoyed watching it over and over again back then. Though the cute baby Lugia was the cutest thing ever. To bad we can't use that baby Lugia in-game

[Snowdrop]

The Fusion Bolt/Flare Moves? Now this sounds silly but I'm a highly visually-oriented person so I'll like whichever move looks the prettiest, and that would be Fusion Bolt xD

Riverlace? Thank you! Well, I once named my Suicunes Pure River and White Lace so I kind of just fused the two together. Where did you come up with the name Sephora? It's really pretty :D

[NixChill]

name:NixChill
partner pokemon:ironman the registeel and sky the rayquaza
whats your favorite lengendary pokemon and why?:rayquaza because he got swag and because im a emerald version fan

[Avishka]

welcome new members !!

Originally Posted by NixChill

name:NixChill
partner pokemon:ironman the registeel and sky the rayquaza
whats your favorite lengendary pokemon and why?: rayquaza because he got swag and because im a emerald version fan

awesome nicknames!!!
i only name a few pokemons like shadow the darkrai

btw found an awesome drawing of all the legendaries

credit - ~Fynn-fin-9

[Mentalii]

Originally Posted by Sector Revenge

I put the original color Mew up for now, I'll update it to a Shiny Mew later. Interesting as you didn't choose Lugia as your partner Pokemon :O Lugia was just straight up badass in The Movie 2000. I enjoyed watching it over and over again back then. Though the cute baby Lugia was the cutest thing ever. To bad we can't use that baby Lugia in-game

I tend not to always choose my favourite Pokémon (concerning the club) as my partner
The former movies were the most interesting about legendaries. Newer movies don't touch me at all, the legendaries aren't as moving. And I'd also like to see a baby Lugia in game, it was adorable. I also remember the awesome sountrack "Lugia's song" from this movie, one of the best among all the Pokémon soundtrack. It's a pity that other legendaries don't have their own theme, I'd be curious to know them.

[Sector Revenge]

Originally Posted by Snowdrop

Where did you come up with the name Sephora? It's really pretty :D

It's actually a female clothing store. Though I've seen it around before, I never realized there was such a thing until..*ahem*..I met this girl in school. The name just made me fell in love, and it suits Cresselia perfectly! I've always wanted to have my Latias & Cresselia have beautiful names & now they do!

Originally Posted by NixChill

name:NixChill
partner pokemon:ironman the registeel and sky the rayquaza
whats your favorite lengendary pokemon and why?:rayquaza because he got swag and because im a emerald version fan

Welcome to the club! I will get you on the list shortly! Rayquaza's shiny form is definitely one of my favorites. Though I'm not much of a big fan of the Regi Golems though, but if I had to choose, Registeel would be the best of the trio.

Originally Posted by Avishka

welcome new members !!

awesome nicknames!!!
i only name a few pokemons like shadow the darkrai

credit - ~Fynn-fin-9

That's an amazing drawing. Shadow the Darkrai is way too common. Doomsday or Darkseid would be excellent names for it!

Originally Posted by Mentalii

I tend not to always choose my favourite Pokémon (concerning the club) as my partner
The former movies were the most interesting about legendaries. Newer movies don't touch me at all, the legendaries aren't as moving. And I'd also like to see a baby Lugia in game, it was adorable. I also remember the awesome sountrack "Lugia's song" from this movie, one of the best among all the Pokémon soundtrack. It's a pity that other legendaries don't have their own theme, I'd be curious to know them.

All the more reason why Lugia is so special, right? You can say in-game Dialga/Palkia do have their own theme, the Spear Pillar. I actually like that one.

Onto a new topic:
Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

[Snowdrop]

Personally I like Arceus more for the "God" of all Pokemon, but not the ancestor.

[Olli97]

Name: Olli97
Partner Pokemon: Lugia and Suicune

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

Well I don't really prefer any of them, because they both have different concepts and different stories. Arceus is believed to have created Sinnoh along with the lake trio and Dialga, Palkia and Giratina as far as I know, so I only really see Arceus as a demigod. Its origin doesn't reach beyond Sinnoh, and though it may be the strongest Pokémon, I'd never consider it a god.

Mew on the other hand is believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, mainly because it's able to learn every single move, because it holds the DNA of every Pokémon there is. Remember, I'm only speaking out of memory. Mew was never believed to be God, as it didn't hold any godly powers, or had any backstory that ever came near that, though most of its race was extinct and therefore very rare, giving it such a reputation.

All in all, I don't really like the idea that there should be a Pokémon God, as it kinda diminishes the other legendaries, and since nothing could surpass a god, there wouldn't really be anything that could suprise us that much. So yeah, I believe Arceus is the creator of Sinnoh and Mew to be the ancestor of all Pokémon.

[krazzikk]

Originally Posted by Avishka

btw found an awesome drawing of all the legendaries

Spoiler:

credit - ~Fynn-fin-9

Why isn't Victini there?? D=

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

It only makes sense for Mew to be The Ancestor of all Pokemon because it has the DNA of all Pokemon.

I could see how Arceus could be the God of All Pokemon, because he can be any type with the help of the specific plate, but I wouldn't say he is the god of all Pokemon, only because his history only comes from Sinnoh, but other wise I would say he would be the God of All Pokemon. Maybe he could be the ancestor of all types...?

[Mentalii]

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

Mew. I can't stand Arceus. Everything was fine in the Pokémon World, no need to have a god, then Arceus came, because Game Freak decided to add a religious side to Pokémon and also wanted to resolve many questions since a god is supposed to create everything and things like that. But seriously, who wants that as a god? I never liked this Pokémon.
While Mew is a really cute and intriguing Pokémon. I want to know more about it, it's mysterious. And its power are fascinating, how can it know every moves? Is it really the ancestor? Why? There are so many things to discover about it ! Contrary to the thing I mentioned above.

[Olli97]

Originally Posted by Mentalii

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

Mew. I can't stand Arceus. Everything was fine in the Pokémon World, no need to have a god, then Arceus came, because Game Freak decided to add a religious side to Pokémon and also wanted to resolve many questions since a god is supposed to create everything and things like that. But seriously, who wants that as a god? I never liked this Pokémon.
While Mew is a really cute and intriguing Pokémon. I want to know more about it, it's mysterious. And its power are fascinating, how can it know every moves? Is it really the ancestor? Why? There are so many things to discover about it ! Contrary to the thing I mentioned above.

I think the whole point of Mew's existence is actually to be the mysterious Pokémon. While the hype about it died down long ago, Mew was practically a rumour back in the days, which was started by the fact that there was a Pokémon called Mewtwo. To people's suprise, Mew actually existed in the games, though not much information was on it, and nothing was really explained on it in the movie, other than it was an extremely rare Pokémon, and that its DNA would be able to help create the strongest Pokémon. Now that builds on another thing, which is also the answer to why Mew can learn all moves, which is, as I stated in my other post, that it holds the DNA of every single other Pokémon, which would obviously make its own DNA very unique, and obviously very good for research, which is probably why Mewtwo is so strong.

I don't think anything was ever explained on Mew's origin, where it came from, why it's the ancestor of all Pokémon, though maybe it's part of something bigger. Arceus and Mew could be at the same level in Pokémon world, demigods to speak, and could both have been created by an actual Pokémon god to kinda serve as the strongest Pokémon around, and to uphold everything and all. I know I'm reading too much into it, and quite frankly I don't even believe that'd ever be possible, as well as I don't want it to, though it is a possibility.

[Avishka]

Originally Posted by Sector Revenge

That's an amazing drawing. Shadow the Darkrai is way too common. Doomsday or Darkseid would be excellent names for it!

i know that and it is also the username of a pokemon clubs regular
ShadowTheDarkrai XD

Originally Posted by krazzikk

Why isn't Victini there?? D=

that's bad i didn't noticed that

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?
arceus bcuz it looks like a god pokemon and because Arceus has the unique ability to change its type depending on the type of plate that it holds. Arceus has a stat total of 720 surpassing the highest's record of 680.
Mew is said to have the DNA of every single Pokémon contained within its body and the wide range of moves it can use. so it can be the ancestor of all Pokemon

[Sector Revenge]

Originally Posted by Snowdrop

Personally I like Arceus more for the "God" of all Pokemon, but not the ancestor.

The size and the stats makes Arceus perfect. Mew has the DNA of ALL Pokemon, well probably just Generation 1, if I remember correctly? Either way, I personally think they just messed up that bit with Mew.

Originally Posted by Olli97

Name: Olli97
Partner Pokemon: Lugia and Suicune

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

Well I don't really prefer any of them, because they both have different concepts and different stories. Arceus is believed to have created Sinnoh along with the lake trio and Dialga, Palkia and Giratina as far as I know, so I only really see Arceus as a demigod. Its origin doesn't reach beyond Sinnoh, and though it may be the strongest Pokémon, I'd never consider it a god.

Mew on the other hand is believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, mainly because it's able to learn every single move, because it holds the DNA of every Pokémon there is. Remember, I'm only speaking out of memory. Mew was never believed to be God, as it didn't hold any godly powers, or had any backstory that ever came near that, though most of its race was extinct and therefore very rare, giving it such a reputation.

All in all, I don't really like the idea that there should be a Pokémon God, as it kinda diminishes the other legendaries, and since nothing could surpass a god, there wouldn't really be anything that could suprise us that much. So yeah, I believe Arceus is the creator of Sinnoh and Mew to be the ancestor of all Pokémon.

Welcome!! Very good explanation here. I hope in the future generations that somehow and in some ways, that all the Legendary Pokemon comes together in some sort of ritual event. I think that would be an interesting event to watch. Then again, there would have to be the strongest and perhaps maybe, the "God Pokemon" of 'em all if that was the case.

Originally Posted by krazzikk

Why isn't Victini there?? D=

It's all 4th Generation past, so Generation 5 Pokemon weren't probably around for Victini to be drawn in

Originally Posted by Mentalii

Who do you prefer as an ancestor/a god of all Pokemon: Mew vs Arceus?

Mew. I can't stand Arceus. Everything was fine in the Pokémon World, no need to have a god, then Arceus came, because Game Freak decided to add a religious side to Pokémon and also wanted to resolve many questions since a god is supposed to create everything and things like that. But seriously, who wants that as a god? I never liked this Pokémon.
While Mew is a really cute and intriguing Pokémon. I want to know more about it, it's mysterious. And its power are fascinating, how can it know every moves? Is it really the ancestor? Why? There are so many things to discover about it ! Contrary to the thing I mentioned above.

That's exactly my view on this. Great minds think alike. I never took an interest in Arceus, I mean yeah its all powerful and that, but its also a very boring Pokemon. I think Mew will forever be that mysterious Pokemon and more known as "That Pokemon who created Mewtwo." Mew is definitely topnotch one of the cutest Pokemon ever, and playful!

I know half of the world probably already have the game and already caught them, and the other half is waiting until October for B2/W2's release date. Time to spice things up with a NEW TOPIC!:

How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?

[Mentalii]

How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?

They're... Worse than I thought they could be. My opinion on them is really bad. The fusion are just awful, I mean, what are those things? They look more like Fakemon than real Pokémon. And I've seen fan-made fusion that were wayyyy better. I'm very disappointed by them, moreover since they are the mascots ! I can understand why some "non-player" or at least former player opinions are so cruel about Pokémonthese days, when you see Pokémon like that as emblem of the newest generation.
Then, Keldeo's new form is meh, but I won't criticize it since it's the best form out of all of them to me.
Thundurus, Tornadus, and Landorus... Ha ha ha. Developers must be kidding us, aren't they?
Uh... Legendaries are becoming worse and worse, I miss the badasness of the former ones so much.

[Katie the Friendly Ghost]

Name: Katie the Friendly Ghost
2 Partner Pokemon: Meloetta(Normal), Moltres
How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?
I personally think they look cool. With the Genie trio, or whatever they're called, I always thought they looked boring and the same, so having new forms is pretty cool. And the fusion with Kyruem is kinda silly, but I think they look pretty awesome.

[krazzikk]

How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?
As far as Tornadus, etc goes, I like the new forms, they look cool, and I love that they have regenerate as a ability now, cuz I really, really, really like regenerate, I mean it heals your pokemon for a bunch when you switch em out seems like a good deal to me.

And as far as B/W Kyurem goes, they look Utterly Ugly!

[Olli97]

How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem?

To be honest, I only really like Landorus. While they all were pretty ugly before, the new forms of Thundurus and Tornadus took it to another level and made them completely ridiculous. Just the bird like forms and wings looks really out of place, and it just makes them look even more hideous, and I'm just repeating myself with this. So yeah, only Landorus looks cool to me, though he's also the one that differs.

As for Kyurem fusions, it's kinda mixed. They've pretty much fused Kyurem's ugliness and fused it together with Reshiram and Zekrom's awesomeness, and made both parts a little less of each, ie Kyurem looks less ugly, but Reshiram and Zekrom looks less awesome, so yeah. Good on Kyurem's part, bad on Reshiram/Zekrom's part. As for the concept, I'm really loving it. The stories of the games keeps on getting better and better.

[PokemonGamingForever]

I would love to join!

Name: PokemonGamingForever. Just call me PGF.

2 Partner Pokemon: Astro the (Normal Form) Deoxys and Techno the Genesect.

How do you feel about the new forms of Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo & the fusion of both Black/White Kyurem? Well I love the new form for Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus/Keldeo and love the concept that they had for Black/White Kyurem but they look disgraceful. But White Kyurem looks the best of the two.