The PokéCommunity Forums  

Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > General Pokémon Gaming Discussions > Advance Generation Gaming
Register New Account FAQ/Rules Chat Blogs Mark Forums Read

Notices

Advance Generation Gaming Come here to post about the Advance Generation series of games, Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed and LeafGreen. Here you'll find other GBA enthusiasts who enjoy talking about the Pokémon, strategy, and techniques to master the games.
Ruby
Sapphire
Emerald
FireRed
LeafGreen



Reply
Thread Tools
  #1  
Unread July 17th, 2012, 06:03 AM
TheGrassLover's Avatar
TheGrassLover
The Boss
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Plano,Texas
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Nature: Bold
[SIZE="a"]Ok I just wanted to know why I felt that the johto Pokemon were left out in the main story of these games?[/SIZE]
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread July 17th, 2012, 09:13 AM
LightningAlex's Avatar
LightningAlex
Psyduck
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly
Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to LightningAlex Send a message via Skype™ to LightningAlex
I feel exactly the same way - I love all Johto Pokemon, but in the advanced games, they really don't appear a lot. In FR/LG, there're just a few Johto Pokemon on the seven islands, and in Emerald, there are some of them in the Safari Zone, but that's all.

It's probably because there's no Johto region in these games. When the only regions to play in are Kanto/Hoenn, it's just natural that mostly Kanto/Hoenn Pokemon will appear. It's sad, but we can't change anything about it :\
__________________

Check it out!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread July 17th, 2012, 12:40 PM
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude
Nyeh?
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
Going with what LightningAlex said, the main focuses in Gen III were Kanto and Hoenn. Johto didn't see much limelight, though it would have been nice if they had a little bit more focused on.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread July 17th, 2012, 12:46 PM
Trainer Timothy's Avatar
Trainer Timothy
Bianca ~ ♥
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Georgia, United States
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Serious
The POKeMON of Johto were pretty original, I would of liked to see more of them in any game following their premiere.
__________________

Dance Like No One's Watching!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread July 17th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Katie the Friendly Ghost's Avatar
Katie the Friendly Ghost
I like rain.
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Le détroit
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Nature: Adamant
I feel like since there's less Pokemon, and a lot are like pre-evos, there's less like ways to incorporate the essence of Johto as a whole in the third generation games. And by the essence obviously legendaries are a big part of that.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread July 18th, 2012, 09:59 AM
vaporeon7's Avatar
vaporeon7
My life would suck without you
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Preparing for trouble and making it double.
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Send a message via Skype™ to vaporeon7
I think it probably has something to do with the fact that Johto Pokémon had just starred in the previous generation. At least they were seen in Colosseum and XD.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread August 15th, 2012, 09:41 PM
Zubat
Beginning Trainer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Gender: Male
I think Johto Pokemon are a big part in the whole series

And you misspelled Johto, you switched the o and the h

Last edited by Zubat; August 15th, 2012 at 09:43 PM. Reason: Your double post has been automatically merged.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread August 15th, 2012, 10:12 PM
ZetaZaku's Avatar
ZetaZaku
AEUG Pilot
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Gender: Male
Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to ZetaZaku Send a message via Skype™ to ZetaZaku
I think that Johto Pokemon were pretty rare in Gen II too. They were there, but they weren't that common and Kanto Pokemon took their spotlight. Most of the times I played Gen II I only used Kanto Pokemon + Johto starter.

Now to answer the question. It's simple. Kanto believes that there are only 151 Pokemon, so Johto Pokemon aren't possible to be found there. Except for Sevii Islands of course. Same goes for Hoenn (Ruby and Sapphire), where even Kanto Pokemon were a bit rare, and the Safari Zone featured some pretty common Pokemon from Kanto (like Pikachu). But when Emerald was released, they included lots of Johto Pokemon. So I don't feel like Johtomons were really excluded.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread August 15th, 2012, 10:35 PM
Nintendork15
I'm gone. Bye.
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Undertaker. Co.
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Nature: Naughty
They didn't play any sort of important crucial role, but they were there enough to say that counted for the result.
Like the 3 starters after the 100% Pokédex [Hoenn] in Emerald.
Ho-Oh and Lugia in Navel Rock.
And the many johto pokémon in Sevii Islands and Battle Frontier.
__________________
gone.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread August 16th, 2012, 03:11 AM
CycloneGU's Avatar
CycloneGU
Eye of the Storm
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Gender: Male
What I know of the regions is that Johto and Hoenn are in opposite directions of Kanto, so finding Johto Pokémon in Hoenn is an obvious unlikelihood. If Hoenn came first and Johto second, I'm sure the opposite would be the case and we'd see some Hoenn in the Johto Safari Zone in the case of Johto being the third generation, but they would again be imports and not native to the area in any such case.

Even in the anime I wonder how Jigglypuff found its way from Johto to Hoenn. Of course, after its Hoenn cameo, we never see it again from what I've read.

Cyclone


Cyclone
__________________


Pokémon Black - National Pokédex completed on December 13, 2012
- Breeding projects: Anything, pretty much! I also have SuperZoruas and Pichus with Volt Tackle! Just ask!
- My Lv.7 UT Shiny Nincada is in Unova. Now accepting offers. This will be cloned and I thus accept clones in exchange.

Pokémon SoulSilver FC: 4943 2589 0519
Pokémon Black FC: 2538-0207-3336
Pokémon White 2 FC: 1335-5830-8725

Also playing Pokémon Light Platinum. Currently in Snowce City.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Unread August 17th, 2012, 09:02 PM
XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE's Avatar
XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE
Scyther
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern Ireland
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Nature: Jolly
It's a shame, a lot of my faves come from from Johto. It's nice how some pokés like Houndour etc have made more than one appearance though, like in safari zones
__________________
http://www.pokecommunity.com/signaturepics/sigpic155452_1.gif
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread August 18th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Grif of Hearts's Avatar
Grif of Hearts
Hartlander
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The British Heartlands
Nature: Naive
Quote:
Originally Posted by XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE View Post
It's a shame, a lot of my faves come from from Johto. It's nice how some pokés like Houndour etc have made more than one appearance though, like in safari zones
I'd say that the Safari zones are where you find several of the Johto native Pokemon, which makes sense. It's a place where rare and foreign Pokemon are shipped to in order to be captured by trainers.

But I suppose that it's both the geography (as has been said, if they were on opposite sides of Hoenn then Johto Pokemon would be uncommon) and the fact that Generation 1 was obviously the debut of Pokemon. They're considered 'more important' than the other generations because of their roots which is perfectly acceptable. Thus, Hoenn is mostly composed of Gen1 and Gen3 Pokemon.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread August 20th, 2012, 05:45 AM
Bourne-mouth's Avatar
Bourne-mouth
Trainer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Gender: Male
Nature: Serious
Maybe because Gen III is on the same boat as Gen I, as they have the same timeline (forgot where I saw that), so it focuses a lot more on Kanto's Pokemon than Johto's Pokemon. I'm honestly surprised why some of them were restricted to the Safari Zone.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread August 28th, 2012, 01:12 PM
AngelArsenic
Beginning Trainer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: South East Coast, USA
Gender: Female
I personally missed the Pokemon. I have a lot of good memories with the Johto Pokemon. Wish they did it like they did the SoulSilver/Heart of Gold remakes and compsited all the pokedexes together.
__________________
75% of Pokemon gamers use cheats and specially made codes to make their pokemon battle-worthy. If you are one of the 25% percent that level their Pokemon up legally, put this in your signature
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread August 29th, 2012, 03:10 AM
DukeofEarls's Avatar
DukeofEarls
Beginning Trainer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Gender: Male
I think it is because Nintendo had yet to 'finalize' their formula of new lands, new Pokemon as a very important aspect of the story. Though Johto was probably my favorite region of any Pokemon games I played.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread August 29th, 2012, 07:55 AM
pinta77's Avatar
pinta77
Trainer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Jose
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Send a message via Skype™ to pinta77
It's because lots of the johto pokemon were all released in colosseum. It's not technically gba, but you can still trade them.

If you only have a gameboy advance, then johto is kind of left out.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread September 2nd, 2012, 01:24 AM
CriticalKYUC's Avatar
CriticalKYUC
Beginning Trainer
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Gender: Male
They should have intergated them in more. Like letting Golbat evolve in FR/LF. And it's always been my personal belief that Gym leaders should have Pokemon from all regions. I mean, they're the best around, why wouldn't they?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread September 8th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Rainbow Arcanine's Avatar
Rainbow Arcanine
Playing with fire
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Sydney,Australia
Gender: Female
Nature: Jolly
They honestly should of had more Johto Pokemon in the 3rd Gen, they just seem 'left out.' I think for R/S/E with the introduction of so many new Pokemon, GameFreak wanted players to focus on them more instead of others. And for FR/LG, being a remake of the originals which were before G/S/C, means probably almost no Johto Pokemon. That's just my opinon though
__________________

oops.
collab with GolurkisDaBomb

Now know as Narnia: http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=373997
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread September 8th, 2012, 03:29 PM
AzaleaLightning's Avatar
AzaleaLightning
Bouncer, hey bouncer ♪
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Michigan
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Nature: Sassy
There was a hefty sum of Johto Pokemon in Colo/XD, but yeah I see what you mean.

Shouldn't have to rely on console games to get those Pokemon. Especially with no backwards compatibility.
__________________

Gen IV Appreciation Station
Tumblr | deviantART | MyAnimeList
TheKeybladeLord's Girlfriend ♥

Ooh, let me in right now or I'll get physical with you
Reply With Quote
Reply
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are UTC. The time now is 03:18 PM.


Style by Perdition Haze, artwork by Sa-Dui.
Like our Facebook Page Follow us on TwitterMessage Board Statistics | © 2002 - 2013 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to Pokémon USA, Inc. and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company, Pokémon USA, Inc., The Pokémon Company International, or Wizards of the Coast. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2013 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User posts belong to the user.