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Advance Generation The hallmark of sprite-based Pokémon gaming, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald set you off on an adventure in the watery Hoenn region with tons of diverse Pokémon to discover. Fans of Kanto can reexplore their favorite region in FireRed and LeafGreen. Here you'll find other fans who enjoy talking about the Pokémon, strategy, and techniques to master this generation.

View Poll Results: Who is the hardest Hoenn Gym Leader?
Roxanne 5 1.77%
Brawly 24 8.48%
Wattson 26 9.19%
Flannery 7 2.47%
Norman 52 18.37%
Winona 22 7.77%
Tate & Liza 128 45.23%
Wallace/Juan 19 6.71%
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Old September 19th, 2012 (9:29 AM).
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In Emerald, those evil twins with their obviously hacked pokemon. KO'd all my pokemon except Aggron, who got really lucky to come on the Solrock and Lunatomb so worry about Earthquake and making critical hits.

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Old October 5th, 2012 (10:34 PM).
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Tate and Liza's entire gym practically went through holocaust when I got there.
Norman fell with ease against my Machoke. (Just a worker Pokemon my a...anyway.)
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Old October 11th, 2012 (5:34 PM).
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Norman's was the easiest i must say, i think i had a Blaziken at the time and just kept spamming Brick Break.

Hardest definitely Tate & Liza.
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Norman was nearly impossible in my first Sapphire run, but since I always have come prepared to take him on. Still a heck of a fight. His bigger Slaking is evil - the rest of his Pokemon not so much. I just need to have a Breloom, Machoke, or Blaziken in stock.

Tate & Liza are also REALLY REALLY hard, and are probably my current answer. They're definitely hackers, lol.
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Old October 12th, 2012 (10:00 PM).
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I always found Norman to be quite a challenge as well as Tate and Liza. I never could surpass Norman's Slaking's power and it really irritated me when it would usually one hit KO me. ):
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Old October 13th, 2012 (2:29 AM).
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Flannery... No doubt... I never had troubles with Norman but I did had some troubles with Tate and Liza... lool
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Old October 13th, 2012 (9:47 PM).
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In the older days of Sapphire, I used to dread Wattson because I would always have a Grovyle. I remember a particularly horrible experience when I had a Grovyle, Crobat (it evolved 2 levels after Golbat :D), Pelipper, Beautifly, and Aron. It was that day that I sweared revenge against Wattson But I found out about Tate & Liz.... Even with type advantage, I somehow lost at least 6 times...

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Old October 15th, 2012 (8:07 AM).
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I'd definitely say Tate and Liza. I had enormous trouble on my first run so many years ago with a level 65 Sceptile and a level 40 Mightyena even. But back then I didn't even know about type advantages, and 4 of my 6 Pokemon were all like level 15 (I was lazy -_-)
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None, really. Mudkip- Marshtomp- Swampert essentially took care of all of the gyms up to Wallace/ Juan and even then, Shiftry took care of that. If I had to choose though, I guess Norman and his Slaking posed the most challenge to me.

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Old October 24th, 2012 (12:04 PM).
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Tate & Liza have always been my most hated gym leaders because of their freaking Lunatone and Solrock.

Normal is a close second though with his Slaking.
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Watson's really good for some reason. He's got all those Super Potions and Static Pokemon too. :(
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Particularly, Norman as well as Tate and Lisa gave me a really hard time in my first play through as their Pokemon to me were extremely hard to beat. Though, this was also the first time I had ever played through a Pokemon game so, that may have also played a factor, but Lunatone and Solrock were a hard duo to beat.

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Old November 8th, 2012 (7:11 PM).
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I am gonna have to say Norman. When I played RSE I did not really pay attention the weaknesses. Now,I don't think I would have that big of a problem. But it has been forever sense I played RSE.
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Old November 8th, 2012 (7:39 PM).
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Liza & Tate weren't so hard for me.A couple of Surfs and its over.The most trouble i had is with Wallace because i didn't have a good type advantage against him.
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Old November 9th, 2012 (2:09 AM).
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I don't remember who I have the hardest time with on Ruby. My bets would have to go with Norman because back then my teams never had a Fighting type nor a Fighting move. But on my Emerald I would have to say Juan because Kingdra and being quite under leveled. Also Girafarig being the one with a Thunderbolt move ye-up. Not sure if I had my vileplume by then either.
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Old November 9th, 2012 (5:51 AM).
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Mine was for some odd reason Tate and Liza. During my first time playing but I was like 8 or 9 and it was my first pokemon game so yeah. In my replay it was Norman but I only failed 2 or 3 times.

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Old November 9th, 2012 (9:47 AM).
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Tate and Liza are always a pain for me whenever I got up against them. The only reason I get to beat them is critical hits with a Surf.
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Old November 9th, 2012 (11:30 AM).
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Of all the regions, Hoenn has by far the hardest gym fights. But the hardest is, fittingly, Juan. His team is filled with attack based Pokemon. His Kingdra is insane too, and loves to spam double team.

(Am I the only one who thought that Tate & Liza weren't that hard?)
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Tate & Liza were never easy for me, because all of my teams consisted of Blaziken and Swellow, who sucked in the gym, and I usually had some poison type, which always left me to have to try beat them with mainly my water type.
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Old November 15th, 2012 (10:46 PM).
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Norman was the hardest for me because only my Swampert could take or do any real amount of damage, it's not easy being prepared for two Slakings at that early stage of the game. I found the other Gym Leaders to be pretty straight forward and easy though..


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Tate and Liza took forever for me. I had nothing strong against psychic types at the time, and double battle format did not work in my favor :l
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Old November 19th, 2012 (1:17 PM).
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For me, it was definitely Tate & Liza.
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I had a copy of Emerald and Sapphire. In my sapphire I start with a Torchic which of course ended up as a Blaziken. Since Tate & Liza had a Lunatone and Solrock, it was a real pain trying to beat them. Especially since the Defense, Speed, and Special Defense for both Lunatone and Solrock is freaking annoying it was incredibly hard for a Fire-Type. Immediately I thought of the DynamicPunch but, they're stupid PSYCHIC/Rock-types so that made it not too effective. Thus, I had to mainly depend on my Ludicolo and his "Surf".

(NOTE: This was a little while back slightly before GameStop stopped selling anything that had to do with GameBoys)
In Emerald though, it was much easier because I had found out about "Soft Resetting" and I really didn't want to start my Sapphire over and I really wanted an Emerald version so I thought, "What the hell, let's buy an Emerald copy!" So I bought a copy and did about 3,500 soft resets. I had been taking tallies on a piece of paper with me, but I gave up slightly after 3,500 so I did it a couple dozen more times and I accidentally clicked Mudkip, I yelped: "Crap!" but then I had a huge spaz attack because it was a shiny one, so of course I kept it. When I got to Tate & Liza it was an easy win for Ludicolo and Swampert.
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Old November 19th, 2012 (11:01 PM).
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The only one that I found to be difficult, to be honest, was Brawly. Mainly because of that Makuhita of his with Reversal and the Sitrus Berry.
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I actually did not have any problems with any of the Hoenn gym leaders in any of my Pokemon games. I believe that the hardest gym leader depends on how you create your Pokemon team; thats the best way I can explain it.


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