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View Poll Results: Lance or Cynthia?
Lance! 25 22.52%
Cynthia! 70 63.06%
I like both equally! 15 13.51%
I dislike them both! 1 0.90%
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Old October 2nd, 2012 (04:35 PM).
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Cynthia all the way. I liked her the best out of everyone for some reason.
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Old October 9th, 2012 (10:08 PM).
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I like Lance for nostalgia purposes but Cynthia is the best champion introduced so far. Her character is so well rounded, her teams are challenging and she's got a stellar design. She's everything I aspire to be as a Pokemon trainer!
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Old October 9th, 2012 (10:12 PM).
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I prefer Cynthia, but only slightly. Lance was awesome back in the day and was difficult, but now he's not as big of a deal as he was back then. Cynthia still gives me problems since her teams are well-rounded and insane, and she's a really nice, protective girl who is also really fierce. Chompy is just ridiculous. Whereas Lance has too many Dragonite and less character development. Cynthia got more airtime - Lance helped blow up the Team Rocket machine in Mahogany, Cynthia did even more. Plus she gives you a Togepi which can grow up to be a Togekiss so that alone is awesome.

Back in the days of G/S/C, Lance appearing outside of the Champion's room was something great. Now we expect more. So in the end, it all balances out, and I like both quite a bit - but Cynthia has a slight edge.
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Old October 9th, 2012 (10:15 PM).
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Cynthia for me, she is gorgeous, her hair her eyes and everything. She has a really interesting personality, fitting for a champion. Her team was great as well, well rounded and tough to beat. My vote goes to Cynthia!
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I like Steven the most.
Lol jokes, Cynthia really is something else. She was the first Champion I actually struggled with in-game. Her Spiritomb ruins at least two of my Pokemon because it has no weaknesses, and Garchomp sweeps through the rest of my team (I'm not so much into Ice types)
Whereas I found Lance's strategy to be more or less "HYPERBEAM ERRYTHANG!" which was repetitive and easily avoided with an easily timed Protect or Fly.
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Old October 10th, 2012 (01:39 PM).
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Lance. Cynthia is awesome and strong, but Lance is the original champion. He'll always be the best.
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Old October 11th, 2012 (04:48 AM).
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Cynthia, no doubt. I am deeply in love with the Sinnoh region, and since I'm a girl, I'm going with my fellow females on this one. And to be honest, I have never really fought Lance before. I don't like Kanto and Johto that much. Plus, Cynthia reminds me of my mom.
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Lance.
I'm sorry, he's the most epic champion, all dragons.

Cynthia is epic as well, for her region, but Dragons being my favorite type, Lance gets my vote.
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Lance, man. I found him more challenging than Cynthia. I mean, I can beat Cynthia's Pokemon while being 7 levels below if I hit her with strong enough attacks. Especially on the original D/P

But Lance on the other hand...Our levels was close, but his Pokemon were so overwhelming. 3 Dragonite(s) and dat Aerodactyl doesn't make things easy, neither. :l

I like Cynthia's team, tho. It's WAY more diverse than Lance, she train different type of Pokemon as such a champion should do. Gary knows da deal too. LOL
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Old October 13th, 2012 (05:44 AM).
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Lance is my favourite champion, so of course I voted for him, the dragon master !
Competitively I has more trouble with Cynthia, my SS's Pokémon being strong against the dragon type, but I still prefer Lance. His look, the type he uses, his personnality (in the manga he's a very interesting character)...
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I chose Cynthia because I actually had a challenge when I first played Pearl (I didn't look at any guides online the first time). I also love her jacket :o

Her team really is diverse and harder to overcome (Plus funner to fight!), while Lance, being all mysterious and cape-wearing, pulls out a team full of Hyper Beamers in Pokemon Yellow (which is my favorite fight with him) or Thunder Waving Dragonites in Crystal (another fave) and still ALL THE HYPER BEAMS!!!! I seriously can't tell you how many times I have beat him because he just started out with hyper beam at the beginning of a fight and basically hands me the championship
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Old October 28th, 2012 (01:08 PM).
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For me its probably Cynthia because she has variety in her team.Even though Lance's dragons are hard to beat i had more trouble with Cynthia.
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Lance was actually helpful in beating Team Rocket, and he's got an actual cape. Plus he uses Dragonairs.

Cynthia just talks to people, she does nothing to help you beat Galactic. And she's got a pseudo cape. :/
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Quote originally posted by 60:
Lance was actually helpful in beating Team Rocket, and he's got an actual cape. Plus he uses Dragonairs.

Cynthia just talks to people, she does nothing to help you beat Galactic. And she's got a pseudo cape. :/


Capes aside, its a close call. I mean in terms of an overall team Cynthia has the advantage but lets be honest here Dragons are Awesome Therefore Lance beats her
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Old October 28th, 2012 (08:10 PM).
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I like Cynthia because she's pretty, hard to beat and pure AWSOME!
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Who can go past Cynthia. She has the best team from any champion, and was the most difficult champion to beat. Her personality is also better than any other champion(in both the anime and games)
She's my favourite character in the Pokemon franchise.
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OK, Here it is.
Lance!
*looks at avy just to make certain*
Yep! Lance!
I thought the 3 Under-leveled Dragonite were stupid but...
He felt like a Champion!
Cynthia... is good but doesn't feel like a Champion.
I beat Cynthia first try... with lvl 58 Pokémon... Lance... I had lvl 53 Pokémon and he took me 8 trys to beat.
Lance's Dragonites, have Fire Blast, Blizzard, Thunder and Outrage.
Get hit by one of those, and it's almost a guaranteed OHKO.
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Old November 3rd, 2012 (01:45 AM).
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They are both awesome in my books.

Lance. The leader of the Elite Four and dragon master! Oh it brings back memories whenever i see the quote "You know that dragons are mythical Pokémon! They’re hard to catch and raise, but their powers are superior! They’re virtually indestructible!"

Cynthia. Champion of the Sinnoh region's Elite Four. Beauty and power in one. Absolutely breath-taking.

They both are incredible in Pokemon Special too.
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Old November 17th, 2012 (07:23 PM).
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Cynthia!

Her team are much cooler than a bunch of Dragonites (even her spiritomb deserves my appreciation). And you can really think of her as some player that explored the region and became Champion like you... Her appearance is also great.

Must I say anything else?
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Cynthia gave me the hardest challenge....both in Diamond and later on in black/2 and white/2....

Not to mention, shes hot and I'm a sucker for a blonde with an attitude...I swear I could lose to her and be happy about it LOL

Lance is pretty cool too...I would definately share a beer with that dude.....and he has a dragonite and a salamence...two pokemon I love....however, I'm going to give this one to Cynthia...because she stole my heart...and took my POKEmoney...
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Cynthia wins despite Lance scoring major points for the cape. Her team is just so much more balanced, requiring more than just Ice Beam and Thunderbolt to take down - you actually have to be creative and flexible when facing her, and she put up a tougher fight than Lance ever did.

Plus she's the first female champion, so she earns extra points there.
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Cynthia wins, hands down. Her team is more diverse than Lance's, and she's incredibly hot.
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Cynthia wins despite Lance scoring major points for the cape. Her team is just so much more balanced, requiring more than just Ice Beam and Thunderbolt to take down - you actually have to be creative and flexible when facing her, and she put up a tougher fight than Lance ever did.

Plus she's the first female champion, so she earns extra points there.
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Cynthia wins, hands down. Her team is more diverse than Lance's, and she's incredibly hot.
...and this especially.

I feel Lance is more of an over-praised Trainer who seems to like spamming Dragonites. Cynthia has a variety of Pokémon to suit multiple types of opposition. Lance, on the other hand, has mainly, only Dragon types.

Here, my statistics for beating each champion:
Cynthia: 4 tries, lots of Full Restores.
Lance: 1 try, taught my Red Gyarados Ice Beam. At Lv 40, it KO'd all of Lance's Pokémon by itself.
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Lance is really just a Flying specialist. He's got what like a couple Dragonite and that's it? Real champions have more diversity, like Cynthia. Sorry Wallace, you're still a gym leader to me. ;P
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Cynthia :T
I'm a bit biased, though, considering Diamond was my first game. But really...Lance got on my nerves with his constant restoration of his Pokemon. D: Plus it's like he isn't even trying. Go out and get a real team; don't just train a bunch of overly powerful ones. If I had a decent Ice-type (and maybe a rock-type because if I remember correctly, he has a Charizard), I could rip through that team of his.
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