FireRed hack: Pokémon: Liquid Crystal [3.3.xxxxx Live Beta]

[alienhunterx]

Originally Posted by gustavoarruda

Hey everyone, i've got a doubt.
A passed thru the Crystal Cave, and climbed way up the route 55, arriving at the Nexus Laboratory. But when i try to enter the building, i automaticaly get out of it.
Any help??

Thats because you have already completed the events inside it. That place is a waste now.. Maybe it could become available in next beta

[Sofnyx]

So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op

None of those moves are special, they're all defined as Physical. We've answered this question a million times now.

[Ash493]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op

They shouldn't be... LC should have Physical/Special split so those moves are supposed to be Physical.

[alienhunterx]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

So I'm raising a dragon team. Get an adamant bagon and dratini only to find out dragon claw fly crunch and fire ice and thunder punch are all based on special.... feel like I've wasted 10 hours.. modest pokemon in this game are op

The same problems i faced regarding the facts about physical/special splits. At long last and after many battles surveys I believed the creators

[Sofnyx]

LaZ is wrong then when a 54 Salamence can't 1 shot a 38 quagsire with dragon claw something is wrong
I'm tempted to just start again and get a modest team

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

LaZ is wrong then when a 54 Salamence can't 1 shot a 38 quagsire with dragon claw something is wrong
I'm tempted to just start again and get a modest team

Evidence, since you choose not to believe one of the creators of the hack.

Spoiler:

All of these, as you can plainly see, are set to Physical. The code reads them as Physical, and the calculations run on them are the Physical ones. There is the potential that something in your particular setup is bugged out, but the moves, as you can plainly see, are PHYSICAL.

[CycloneGU]

I don't believe I've seen many better uses for the words "So there" than this. There's your proof they're physical attacks. As they should be.

Cyclone

[Sofnyx]

So why does amnesia make it weaker then...... I'm not saying this to troll... I think this hack is great at the start it was a real challenge I only beat the 1st gym Cauz I cursed pidgeotto and spammed potions maybe amnesia is bugged? But I'm not the only one saying it.. if anything I would like it to be harder in not even in victory road and I have 4 lvl 50+ I sweep all gyms since morty

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

So why does amnesia make it weaker then...... I'm not saying this to troll... I think this hack is great at the start it was a real challenge I only beat the 1st gym Cauz I cursed pidgeotto and spammed potions maybe amnesia is bugged? But I'm not the only one saying it.. if anything I would like it to be harder in not even in victory road and I have 4 lvl 50+ I sweep all gyms since morty

Some of the background code is known to be buggy, remind me what Amnesia actually does?

As to the other complaint, it's true of just about any Pokémon game, after a certain point, the game becomes incredibly easy. It's very hard to make it more challenging without making it cheap, unfortunately.

[alienhunterx]

Originally Posted by Jambo51

Some of the background code is known to be buggy, remind me what Amnesia actually does?

As to the other complaint, it's true of just about any Pokémon game, after a certain point, the game becomes incredibly easy. It's very hard to make it more challenging without making it cheap, unfortunately.

As far as I know, Amnesia raises users Sp. def

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by alienhunterx

As far as I know, Amnesia raises users Sp. def

You are correct.

It's actually not as bad as moves like "Harden", strangely, as most moves I use early on are Physical. I will use Special moves at higher levels.

Cyclone

[Sofnyx]

Yeah it used it and my fly and dragon claw became weaker maybe the E4 could just be on a whole new level

[Ash493]

Then that's probably bug in your version. If Amnesia really weakened DC then it's clearly a Special based move.

[Sofnyx]

yeah thats why i raged i have an adamant dragon team and my physical moves do special dmg ;/

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

yeah thats why i raged i have an adamant dragon team and my physical moves do special dmg ;/

What version of LC are you using? There was a bug in 3.1 where what you're saying happened, but it should've been fixed.

The whole Physical/Special split is to be overhauled in the near future in any case, so hopefully that will help fix this and the other bugs known to exist, but it's not something we plan to do at the drop of a hat, because it needs to be made obvious to you guys, the players. It's likely something we will do before the release of RC1, potentially later this year.

My point, in any case, wasn't that you were wrong about a potential bug, it was that you were wrong about the moves being categorised wrongly, which they are not. I hope you understand where I'm coming from with that statement.

[Sofnyx]

Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....

Yeah, that was a bug which existed in 3.1's release, but was fixed shortly after said release. 3.2 doesn't have that bug, and also has cleaned up many of the other bugs in the game.

[Ash493]

Originally Posted by Sofnyx

Yeah I get you and it's 3.1 I'm playing I don't want to raise my adamant extremespeed dratini only to find its bugged and weak as a feebas....

Then patch new ROM with 3.2 patch and use your 3.1 save that has the Adamant Dragons you are so proud of.

[alienhunterx]

Yeah please do fix bug of that move tutor in Golden Rod city too. Many people have complained about him too.. you know he does not teaches you Dragon Claw any more if you beat the Elites already...

[Jambo51]

Originally Posted by Ash493

Then patch new ROM with 3.2 patch and use your 3.1 save that has the Adamant Dragons you are so proud of.

You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.

[ElitePokes]

Hello does this hack have unown dex

[alienhunterx]

Originally Posted by ElitePokes

Hello does this hack have unown dex

No my good friend I am afraid its not. No matter how many Unowns you catch the dex will show only 1

Originally Posted by Jambo51

You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.

I doubt that Jambo. Because I used the old save from 3.1 to play the cave of wisdom in 3.2

[Ash493]

Originally Posted by Jambo51

You can't do this, the game won't let you, it deletes the game save as soon as you load it up. Don't attempt to get round it using savestates, because you will find everything is screwed up if you do.

He'll just have to go through the buggy 3.1, and accept that the move damage calculations aren't right, or start a brand new game on 3.2.

Ouchie... didn't know that o.O So 3.1 and 3.2 are that different... I can't imagine that...
If he saves in any PC and goes out, everything should be changed...

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ash493

Ouchie... didn't know that o.O So 3.1 and 3.2 are that different... I can't imagine that...
If he saves in any PC and goes out, everything should be changed...

I'll agree with that. I've done some fixing and mucking around to another hack and copied it in while save-stated in the PC. I change ROMs and back and head outside, and the changes take effect immediately. My only guesses are that's not 3.1 OR the single area is so vastly different. Save state in a PC then change around and see what happens.

Cyclone