2012 Survivor's Party @ Drakow's House

[Guillermo]

20 million Australian's is already too many hahah.

[Cosmotone8]

What do you mean? Japan has 125 million and Australia has more livable space than Japan even with the Outback and stuff.

[Guillermo]

I don't mean space wise, just most Australian's are annoying asses. Plus most of Australia is bush, infested with insects and animals that could kill you in 20 seconds. Seriously the spiders here are so big they have health bars.

[Cosmotone8]

Haha that makes sense then. The less idiots the better. xD

[droomph]

The less idiots the better? Are you kidding me? YouTube would go out of business if that happened :P

Originally Posted by Guillermo

I don't mean space wise, just most Australian's are annoying asses. Plus most of Australia is bush, infested with insects and animals that could kill you in 20 seconds. Seriously the spiders here are so big they have health bars.

reference: crocodile hunter

[Frostweaver]

Last I checked for Australia, even a digital copy online for whatever reason, costs like an extra 10-20 dollars... so it's not a matter of importing a game to the middle of a giant rock type of thing.

Then again, my friend's sister works in a supermarket for 17 roo-dollars per hour...? I'm pretty sure that I don't get 17/hr in a supermarket type of job in Canada. I can only attribute the price to taxes/tariffs of some sort.

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Frostweaver

Last I checked for Australia, even a digital copy online for whatever reason, costs like an extra 10-20 dollars... so it's not a matter of importing a game to the middle of a giant rock type of thing.

Then again, my friend's sister works in a supermarket for 17 roo-dollars per hour...? I'm pretty sure that I don't get 17/hr in a supermarket type of job in Canada. I can only attribute the price to taxes/tariffs of some sort.

Weekend rates can be anything up to like $20 an hour for an average teenager, because we don't get tips.

[Toujours]

I think the online thing is just because the market in Australia can support it. If they couldn't, I bet digital prices at least would drop.

[Kura]

Originally Posted by Guillermo

Weekend rates can be anything up to like $20 an hour for an average teenager, because we don't get tips.

.. What the.. $20 an hour? : | WTF is the exchange to Aus Dollar?

[droomph]

Originally Posted by Kura

.. What the.. $20 an hour? : | WTF is the exchange to Aus Dollar?

Google says, about $1.01 for every dollar.

Goddamn that's a lot.

[Morkula]

Yeah, Australian minimum wage is ridiculous, especially compared to the US. Our minimum wage ($7.25) is really low in comparison to a lot of other countries.

[Kura]

.. I'm in the wrong country.

[Abbadon]

england country is best country stfu with your fact-based opinions and well thought-out arguments i win anyways

[Frostweaver]

And in a way, you suddenly realized that their video game prices aren't that bad if their minimum wage is double of ours (or higher) XD; I'm a freakin' part-time math teacher and I do not make 20/hour D:

[droomph]

My mom said that she makes $100 an hour and I was like :o holy ****

and then I realized that half of america makes less than $15 an hour, and then I gave up hope on getting that music studio I always wanted.

[Guillermo]

Yeah Aus' minimum wage is around $15.96 an hour. I know 13 year olds on at least 14 an hour, so it makes sense everything would be double the price. Still seems ridiculous to spend $150 bucks on the new AC collectors edition though.

[donavannj]

I thought a lot of the increase in cost in Australia versus other countries is the post-production violence editing that's required by law there for games.

Though it could simply be a matter of Australia's market size being too small to sell them any cheaper and still make a "worthwhile" profit.

[Guillermo]

Apparently they're bringing out an R18+ rating for games in Aus now, but I've heard that same story at least 5 times over a couple of years. It'd be great if it happened though because the violence in games here is too damn low. :(

[Went]

Also consider that Australian games belong in the PAL region, which means extra translation and shipping costs. Games are already more expensive in Europe than in the US, so of course they are going to be even worse in Australia.

[Frostweaver]

Thus why I compared prices with digital copies... no shipping required for digital, right?

As for PAL version... hey asia is also PAL but you don't see the same price hike like that =(

[Went]

Originally Posted by Frostweaver

Thus why I compared prices with digital copies... no shipping required for digital, right?

As for PAL version... hey asia is also PAL but you don't see the same price hike like that =(

Japan and Korea are NTSC, and I don't really know about the prices of videogames in any other Asian countries to compare XD

[Razor Leaf]

England's minimum wage is pretty sucky next to some of you guys'. Fortunately though any job I've had in recent years has been above it anyway so it doesn't bother me too much but still... damn. My heart flipped over when I realised how much more I could be making if I worked in Australia with your giant minimum wage. @_@

Originally Posted by Morkula

Yeah, Australian minimum wage is ridiculous, especially compared to the US. Our minimum wage ($7.25) is really low in comparison to a lot of other countries.

That's pretty bad even by English standards - our minimum wage for 21 year olds translates to almost $10.

Originally Posted by direct.gov.uk

There are different levels of NMW, depending on your age and whether you are an apprentice. The current rates (from 1 October 2012) are:
• £6.19 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
• £4.98 - the 18-20 rate
• £3.68 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
• £2.65 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship
If you are of compulsory school age you are not entitled to the NMW. Some of your other employment rights are also different.
Past NMW rates can be viewed on the Low Pay Commission website.

Apprentice rates are pretty awful though. As is more or less anything under 21 years of age.

Originally Posted by Abbadon

england country is best country stfu with your fact-based opinions and well thought-out arguments i win anyways

how to win all arguments in this section ever

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by Razor Leaf

England's minimum wage is pretty sucky next to some of you guys'. Fortunately though any job I've had in recent years has been above it anyway so it doesn't bother me too much but still... damn. My heart flipped over when I realised how much more I could be making if I worked in Australia with your giant minimum wage. @_@



That's pretty bad even by English standards - our minimum wage for 21 year olds translates to almost $10.

I was born in Manchester, UK, actually. When I moved here I noticed the difference betweeen minimum wages was substantial ahah, but it works out about the same because we're paying far more for things. Even groceries are ridiculously overpriced compared to everywhere else I've been.

[Kura]

Rent is stupid in the UK. Glad I am on a salary though. I like it better than having to worry about hours/ shifts.

[Went]

When I went to London, I was surprised to know that the price of my monthly all-you-can-travel bus &metro pass here in Madrid would only allow me to use an Oyster card for four days XD