[B/W] Quick Questions

[dankdoctor]

I haven't played in a while and I've already conquered the Pokemon League a couple of times. I'm looking for someone to battle, Someone with an interesting party (No legendaries).

My party consists of:
Torterra (Male) Lv. 100
Tyranitar (Male) Lv. 100
Metagross Lv. 100
Gigalith (Male) Lv. 100
Salamence (Male) Lv. 100
Gyarados (Male) Lv. 100

Any takers?
I have to go to work in an hour, But I'll be free tonight around 11pm.
Just send me an email [email protected] if you are interested.

B&W FC: 4900-3699-7207

[GolurkIsDaBomb]

I think the place you want to ask that is here:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=287473

Although most battlers are most likely pretty strong, so be warned. :D

*someone correct me if this isn't the best place, I don't go to the battling center very often/ever

[AdrianD]

Originally Posted by Plumpyfoof

Do you mean start the game over? Or start with a brand new team?
Because yes on both accounts.
I had my in-game team and just blasted through like that, then when they were good enough to take on the E4 and the daily sports arena's I introduced one new Pokemon at a time.
IV bred, EV trained and now they're all between level 69 and 94.

Basically it's introduce one new member at a time until it is strong enough to replace a current member.

I was talking about retooling your existing team. Changing Moves, Re-ev train if possible, etc..

Seperate question. Is it possible to have a dragon based team? I have 4 dragons which i know is too many on one team. Or do i stick to pokemon that counter its weakness?

[Dechuri]

when is global link coming back from maintenance?

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Dechuri

when is global link coming back from maintenance?

Maintenance was from September 25th to October 2nd I believe so it should have been back for a few days now.

I know Wednesday they have Maintanence, but I dunno why its not back up yet. Most likely an internal error.

They haven't posted an updated time.

[CycloneGU]

It's back?

Time I start doing all of my breeding to fill up the Pokédex as far as I can, methinks...

How successful have all of you been using the GTS? I'm thinking of putting up one of my Zoruas for each Pokémon I request. Are you limited to seven requests as the screen seems to suggest?

Cyclone

[Forever]

Originally Posted by AdrianD

Seperate question. Is it possible to have a dragon based team? I have 4 dragons which i know is too many on one team. Or do i stick to pokemon that counter its weakness?

You can but ice types will destroy you for the most part, so you're better off using at least one steel so you have something to help you against opposing scarfed, or faster dragons. It's up to you though, it can work but kind of risky. Also as a little head's up for the future this fits in in-game team questions since it relates to team things rather than actual game mechanics etc!

[AdrianD]

Originally Posted by Forever

You can but ice types will destroy you for the most part, so you're better off using at least one steel so you have something to help you against opposing scarfed, or faster dragons. It's up to you though, it can work but kind of risky. Also as a little head's up for the future this fits in in-game team questions since it relates to team things rather than actual game mechanics etc!

I was pondering a Metagross. breeding it now

[Ciesla]

Hello, i just wanted to know if my calculations for EV training is correct.

I want to EV train my Scyther for this: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD

He has pokerus and will be holding a macho brace.
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For HP, i have to fight 31 Stunfisks (2 EVs each)

For Attack, i have to fight 63 patrats (1 EV each)

For speed, i have to fight 1 Basculin.


Are my calculations correct for this? I am a first time EV trainer. And also, should I level my Scyther to a Scizor before ev training or does it not matter? Thanks in advance!

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ciesla

Are my calculations correct for this? I am a first time EV trainer. And also, should I level my Scyther to a Scizor before ev training or does it not matter? Thanks in advance!

I'll answer the bolded segment. Whether to evolve first will strictly have to do with which moves you want available on levelup. MOST moves are identical pre- and post-evolution. However, there are a few differences:

Level 21: Scyther learns Wing Attack whereas Scizor learns Metal Claw.
Level 37: Double Team is Scyther's move, while Scizor prefers Iron Defense.
Level 53: Air Slash is what Scyther learns, but Scizor goes all out with Iron Head.

The rest aside from Start moves are identical, and any EV training done on Scyther before evolution carries over into Scizor. Also, any moves learned by Scyther that only it can learn on levelup will be known by your Scizor as well, but cannot be relearned by the move lady in Mistralton on a Scizor if forgotten (i.e. your Scizor can know both Wing Attack and Air Slash before evolution, but even at Lv.100 cannot relearn either move). If you evolve at the levels noted above, it's possible to learn BOTH moves at that level, and you can evolve after learning all Scyther moves and "relearn" "forgotten" Scizor moves so you still have access to the entire move pool. Note you must trade with the correct item (a Metal Coat) to evolve.

Cyclone

[Ciesla]

Thanks for the amazing response CycloneGU!

One more question: If I start the battle with my Scyther (with macho brace/pokerus), and then swap and defeat the target with my other pokemon, will Scyther still get the full EV's with the bonus of macho/pokerus included?

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ciesla

Thanks for the amazing response CycloneGU!

One more question: If I start the battle with my Scyther (with macho brace/pokerus), and then swap and defeat the target with my other pokemon, will Scyther still get the full EV's with the bonus of macho/pokerus included?

No. The Pokémon has to knock out the opponent to get the EVs. However, using the Lucky Egg and starting with it will gain extra experience than it normally would (unless an outsider - i.e. traded to you - in which case the Lucky Egg is useless). (Corrected below, but ignoring the Lucky Egg bit, hand it an Exp. Share and it can gain Exp. that way without gaining EVs you may not want it to have.)

This lets you get the level up to, say, Lv.55 before going and hunting down Stunfisks on Route 8 or the Moor of Icirrus. You have them way overleveled and can just wipe them out one by one, and keep track of how many you're beaten by looking at the number of times your knockout move is used. If it misses once, use other moves to defeat it so your tally remains correct. How do you get to 55 without fighting? Give it a Lucky Egg and start it against Audinos on Route 11; it will get to 40 very quickly (ten battles or so, give or take) by switching it immediately for an ally who knocks it out, then it gets slower but can still be done.

Cyclone

[Ciesla]

Oh wow...

Because I just defeated 31 stunfisks by swapping out scyther and having someone else beat him. Scyther gained exp from him, but from what your telling me no EVs?

So did Scyther gain 0 EV's from all that?? He was holding a machobrace w/ pokerus.

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ciesla

Oh wow...

Because I just defeated 31 stunfisks by swapping out scyther and having someone else beat him. Scyther gained exp from him, but from what your telling me no EVs?

So did Scyther gain 0 EV's from all that?? He was holding a machobrace w/ pokerus.

I just double-checked this per Bulbapedia and it seems I may be wrong.

"Unlike experience points, which are reduced when multiple Pokémon are receiving experience, effort points are awarded equally to all Pokémon who participated in defeating a Pokémon."

Anyone want to confirm this detail? I thought only the Pokémon completing the battle got the EVs.

Cyclone

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by CycloneGU

I just double-checked this per Bulbapedia and it seems I may be wrong.

"Unlike experience points, which are reduced when multiple Pokémon are receiving experience, effort points are awarded equally to all Pokémon who participated in defeating a Pokémon."

Anyone want to confirm this detail? I thought only the Pokémon completing the battle got the EVs.

Cyclone

All Pokemon involved with the battle (this includes any Pokemon holding the EXP Share) get EVs for battle.

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by XanderO

All Pokemon involved with the battle (this includes any Pokemon holding the EXP Share) get EVs for battle.

There ya go Ciesla, looks like those battles did count! I had read somewhere on these forums (can't recall where, might be elsewhere) that they didn't count unless the battle was finished.

That explains why all my babies have such high HP stats upon fully evolving...

Cyclone

[XanderO]

Battle finishes when you KO the Pokemon. So unless you run away mid fight, you get EVs. If you don't finish the battle, running or the wild fleeing or Roar/Whirlwind/Dragon Tail, then you don't get EVs.

Felt like I should clear up what it means to "Not finish a battle"

[Ciesla]

Originally Posted by XanderO

Battle finishes when you KO the Pokemon. So unless you run away mid fight, you get EVs. If you don't finish the battle, running or the wild fleeing or Roar/Whirlwind/Dragon Tail, then you don't get EVs.

Felt like I should clear up what it means to "Not finish a battle"

Yes, but does the macho brace bonus get counted as well?

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ciesla

Yes, but does the macho brace bonus get counted as well?

Of course! You get 4x if I'm not mistaken even if he pops out of the ball and goes right back in; find something giving off three EVs in the stat you want and you get a whole 12 EVs per battle with Pokérus and the Macho Brace.

Also, if you want to quickly level up a Pokémon without attaining EVs, give it an Exp. Share. I'm fairly certain EVs are not gained that way.

Cyclone

[Ash493]

@Cyclone: Unfortunately, you are wrong again. Exp. Share also gives out EVs similar to switching in.
As for the Scyther issue... mentioned moves don't really matter if you have Technician Scyther/Scizor since both rely on "weaker" moves.

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by Ash493

@Cyclone: Unfortunately, you are wrong again. Exp. Share also gives out EVs similar to switching in.

Really? Wow, that makes it kinda hard to EV train...

Cyclone

[XanderO]

@Cyclone I mentioned that in one of my posts XD

I said that those with the EXP Share gain as well cause the way EXP share is coded treats the holder as if they are in battle.

Now If the one that beats the Pokemon has a Macho Brace on and another Pokemon has EXP Share, only the Macho Brace holder gets the x4. The EXP Share holder will only get the EVs that the Pokemon is supposed to give.

[CycloneGU]

Originally Posted by XanderO

@Cyclone I mentioned that in one of my posts XD

I said that those with the EXP Share gain as well cause the way EXP share is coded treats the holder as if they are in battle.

Now If the one that beats the Pokemon has a Macho Brace on and another Pokemon has EXP Share, only the Macho Brace holder gets the x4. The EXP Share holder will only get the EVs that the Pokemon is supposed to give.

It should be noted that the Exp. Share only gives the 1x, but Pokérus makes it 2x. So does the Macho Brace, but 4x only comes if the Macho Brace holder has Pokérus. (I did read "Stacks with Pokérus" at Bulbapedia before commenting last time.)

Cyclone

[SamuJake]

Is there any way to help lvl up my Pokemon? I've defeated the league for the first time in Black. My Pokemon team is around lvl 62 - 67. Any ideas or tips? I want to at least get them to level 70's.

[vaporeon7]

Originally Posted by SamuJake

Is there any way to help lvl up my Pokemon? I've defeated the league for the first time in Black. My Pokemon team is around lvl 62 - 67. Any ideas or tips? I want to at least get them to level 70's.

I suggest using the +++exp pass power, lucky egg and training at the sports domes in Nimbasa City, otherwise Audino are always good for exp.