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Old October 10th, 2012, 02:31 AM
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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:34 AM
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Peta is straight up dumb... They refuse to acknowledge that humans are omnivores, as well. LOL. Right.... They ignore scientific fact. It bugs me.
That's bull****. We're frugivores like all the other primates. Just 99% of people are too dumb to see it, and the other 1% don't want to feel left out.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:46 AM
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That's bull****. We're frugivores like all the other primates. Just 99% of people are too dumb to see it, and the other 1% don't want to feel left out.
Where did you hear that? Sure we eat fruit, but it's not our main type of food source. I'm pretty sure humans are omnivores.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Diet

Anyway, I posted this as my Facebook status.
"PETA , Pokemon is about friendship and bonding and treating Pokemon as equals , not enslaving and abusing little creatures and forcing them to battle. They battle cause they love their trainer and want to be their friend. Also it's just a game and shouldn't be taken so seriously."


As much as I care for animals, I think PETA went overboard. They always do and that's why I'll never support their silly, ignorant cause.
They clearly don't understand the concept of Pokemon which is nothing about abuse. Lastly, for a game that's suppose to be supporting animal abuse, it's really violent. Contradictory much?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 05:49 AM
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Right, let's drop the "Pokemon is about friendship and equality", since it never was, at least not for the latter's case. If it was the anime, I'd agree with you about friendship, but it was never the purpose for the games. It's mention, frequently too in some, but was never important except for some few evolution requirements.

It's a legitimate complaint. The thing that makes Pokemon is catching every single Pokemon you see, and training your favorites to fight. It's not about friendship, it's about collecting. I'd like to think of Pokemon as more of a collect-a-thon than an RPG, because that's the point. Catching, training and battling, as heavily emphasized, is the point, not this friendship stuff.


The only Pokemon games of the same formula where friendship plays a factor are Colosseum and XD.

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Lastly, for a game that's suppose to be supporting animal abuse, it's really violent. Contradictory much?
I fail to see what is contradictory about this. You expect them to get their point (which is a joke, nonetheless) with cutesy rainbows and sunshine?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 08:36 AM
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Where did you hear that? Sure we eat fruit, but it's not our main type of food source. I'm pretty sure humans are omnivores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human#Diet

Anyway, I posted this as my Facebook status.
"PETA , Pokemon is about friendship and bonding and treating Pokemon as equals , not enslaving and abusing little creatures and forcing them to battle. They battle cause they love their trainer and want to be their friend. Also it's just a game and shouldn't be taken so seriously."


As much as I care for animals, I think PETA went overboard. They always do and that's why I'll never support their silly, ignorant cause.
They clearly don't understand the concept of Pokemon which is nothing about abuse. Lastly, for a game that's suppose to be supporting animal abuse, it's really violent. Contradictory much?
I'm much smarter than Wikipedia. Sure, we can digest other stuff, but optimally we thrive on mostly fruit.

I agree with you though, PETA is a joke. It must be run by someone who hates animals, because they're probably detrimental to the vegan cause.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 09:04 AM
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I definitely feel that PETA is detrimental to the cause, just like any crazy subset of a group is detrimental to the group. People see it and think that it's the norm for that group, and then dismiss everyone in the overall group due to the crazy of one subset.
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Alright, here's my opinion.

PETA are a bunch of crazies who shouldn't be taken seriously and are hypocrites anyways.

This game uses gore to create shock value and is just plain manipulative.

Human beings are omnivores, we need the protein in meat to stay healthy and although there are substitutes for protein, most people can't afford them or can barely afford food at all.

Pokemon is pro-social like most fictional creations, it uses battling as a healthy means of outsourcing any aggressive feelings we may have while also instigating our natural need to nurture others.
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Poor PETA. Nobody cares about you anymore. What a desperate cry for attention.

Seriously, what kind of game would PETA-approved pokemon be anyway? You would goto the pokemon world. Walk around some. Watch some Tv. Recycle. Maybe see some pokemon if they stray into the city. Of course you couldnt go into the forest or mountains to look at pokemon because you would be disturbing their natural habitat. What fun.

PETA is a joke. Stay out of my vidya games you bastards!
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Old October 13th, 2012, 05:34 AM
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The irony of this is so delicious, I could nearly eat it off of the screen... And Irony isn't a food, people. I really think Gamefreak had a stroke of genius when they created Plasma.
Because Plasma's ideals aren't clear-cut stupid, but their representatives certainly are. Just like Peta's.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 01:58 AM
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I personally found it ironic that their game depicts more horror than any Pokemon game ever did. Way to go, PETA.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 03:04 AM
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I agree with Zozma. They love using scare tactics. I think they're terrible at it.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 11:35 PM
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This is just plain stupid !
I'm not sure what this is really about, capturing Pokemon/animals ? Or the cruelty of letting them battle and fight ? First of all, it's not cruel. Pokemon like to battle, they do it for fun.
The want to level up.
But anyway, PETA is beyond stupid ! They have this whole Pokemon = animals perspective.
Pokemon are monsters actually, not animals. They're just based off animals.

So what about Geodude,Magemite,Graveler,Voltorb, Electrode,Onix, Steelix,Porygon,Baltoy,Solrock,Magnezone,Klink,vanilite.......and the list goes on.....

Peta, have you ever built a house ? do you live in a house ? your office ? Isnt that cruel to Geodude and Graveler or Golem, since they are rocks ???
Have you ever ate an ice cream ? Next time, think about Vanilite.
Have you ever threw away the trash ? Think of poor little Trubbish.
You guys focus so much on the reality of Pokemon and that they are animals, but what about the Pokemon that are not animals ? The Pokemon that is based off inanimate objects ?

Please PETA, get real, Pokemon are pure fiction and not real !!!! [ but everyday I wish they were real ]
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Old October 16th, 2012, 05:48 PM
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After watching a playthrough of this on YouTube, I have to say...this actually would have been really good as a parody of BWB2W2. Ghetsis's and Slowpoke's dialog especially convinces me of that. But then it's serious, so instead of being an amusing and actually well-animated game, it's just...sad.

Ash's battle especially. Ash never cared about Pikachu? So Ash almost getting killed to save Pikachu in the first episode from a bunch of rabid Spearow means nothing? As little of a fan I am of Ash, there is no mistaking that "Ash and Pikachu" is essentially the symbol of friendship. Granted, this is a game from the group that preaches "ethical treatment of animals" but then throws animal blood on people who wear fur and kills well over 90% of the animals in their own shelters.

And as others have said, Pokemon has been around since '96. The fact that they waited until now to attack them (because the battling has never changed) just proves that they're looking for attention. The Slowpoke at the end of their game must be the same one who told them about the existence of Pokemon.
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As I've said about PETA, they know not of what they speak and they are to animal rights activism as the Westboro Baptist Church is to all the other gay-bashing churches. Sure, they might cringe at the idea of being compared to Westboro but Westboro is keeping it real and they have the same message basically.

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Old October 18th, 2012, 12:00 AM
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I sent Nintendo a notice about the PETA game and how it infringes their copyrights and this is the response i got.



Looks like they may take legal action.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 06:36 AM
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I sent Nintendo a notice about the PETA game and how it infringes their copyrights and this is the response i got.



Looks like they may take legal action.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I wish them the best of luck in their goals. While I get threats of legal action all the time and I don't take it very seriously since it never really comes to anything, I can understand it in this aspect because:
  1. PETA is getting so very wrong. The lies, oh the flagrant lies.
  2. PETA used copyrighted images with minor alterations, including the Pokemon logo.
  3. They are misrepresenting the message of Pokemon - which is not okay.
  4. It could cause harm to those who play Pokemon.

So yeah, I hope Nintendo sues.

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Oh how I will enjoy PETA getting sued. They're a bunch of hypocrites, and this desperate cry of attention is funny.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 06:53 PM
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I don't think they can get sued. This could be considered a parody and therefore should be legal, correct? Nintendo could sue a lot of people that make Pokemon flashes and whatnot if so.
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pokemon are trademarks, people can use them in their artwork/flash games but they technically remain properties of nintendo. BUT if PETA have used it for any form of commercial or illegal purposes (pretty unsure on that), yes they will be sued unless they stop publishing the game or change it completely (without pokemon)
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Old October 18th, 2012, 10:56 PM
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pokemon are trademarks, people can use them in their artwork/flash games but they technically remain properties of nintendo. BUT if PETA have used it for any form of commercial or illegal purposes (pretty unsure on that), yes they will be sued unless they stop publishing the game or change it completely (without pokemon)
Still requires the use of a trademark sign:

Since they do not have that then it should be illegal. If Gamefreak wanted to, I'm pretty sure they could sue PETA for that. As for a form of commercial purpose, the game is directly linked on their page and you could argue that they are using this to advertise their point (to the extreme, it seems).
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What good is this going to do for the animals in our world that actually need help. DIRT ! PETA is retarded.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Guess what they targeted this time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewa...-animal-abuse/



lol

You're only like 14 years late PETA. I'm pretty sure you're already in the game anyway and children already find the concept of Pokemon liberation ridiculous, I'd assure them. Just a stupid ass publicity stunt.

Omg they are acting like Team Plasma. :O
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They can't sue them, PETA isn't doing anything illegal.

Unless you didn't know parodies are legal, but now you do.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 09:40 PM
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Oh gawd. How stupid can PETA get? It's a freaking kids game... It says clearly on the box, comic mischeif, not blood and foul language. -facelaptop- SIGH. PETA. Y U HAVE TO TARGET POKEMONZ?
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They can't sue them, PETA isn't doing anything illegal.

Unless you didn't know parodies are legal, but now you do.
This. Though I'd consider it more defamation than parody.

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Oh gawd. How stupid can PETA get? It's a freaking kids game... It says clearly on the box, comic mischeif, not blood and foul language. -facelaptop- SIGH. PETA. Y U HAVE TO TARGET POKEMONZ?
I believe the "point" they are trying to get across is that the concept of Pokemon is basically pitting animals against each other in battle, drawing parallels with things like cockfighting in real life.

Doesn't make what they're doing any less senseless and ****ing stupid though.
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